What Are The Odds

Now that most of the BS is over with (except for the usual slug-like and out-of-work libtards still protesting just to do something) will Judge Kavanaugh become Justice Kavanaugh? In other words, will the key undecideds judge this guy on what he may or may not have done as a minor in high school....or will they judge him based on his ability to graduate first in his classes at Yale undergraduate and Yale Law School, as well on his exemplary, blemish-free, spotless and widely praised years of family, community, and legal work since?

What does common sense say to do?

Common sense has nothing to do with it.

He'll be confirmed only because the Republicans want one of their own confirmed before the upcoming mid-terms.

This dog and pony show has been mildly entertaining yet predictable from the very beginning.

Personally, I think he's a douche, but douche-ness has never prevented people from being confirmed to the Supremes.

Just politics as usual.

Keep the California flake-inspired liberal lies and whining coming V---it's EXACTLY the type of P-A-I-N those of us who trust in legitimacy and simple common sense are looking for!

I agree common sense has nothing to do with it, but the other way. Common sense says, obviously, he should be voted into being a justice, but that doesn’t mean there are plenty of Dems who’ll vote “no” because they can’t gef over the fact that an allegation was made (despite there being zero evidence to support Ford, she doesn’t know up from down, and the fact it’s a combination of a total witch hunt and stalling tactics).

MrsV, why do you think he’s a douche?

It was hard to take this whole shit show seriously. Yes, I got mad when I heard the ridiculous allegations without any evidence or corroboration, but it was so obvious from the start that smear, stall and delay were the play calls of the day. Democrats while not having the votes, took a 500-1 long shot against, and almost pulled off stopping confirmation. Total dishonesty, facts don’t matter, and no presumption of innocence.

Through all the allegations, charges. Interviews, trial, Ted Bundy never raised his voice, never spoke a word in anger. He remained calm throughout the ordeal. Unlike Kavanaugh, Ted Bundy had the right temperment to be on the SCOTUS. To bad he died.

No corroboration?

She disclosed details of the event to her therapist many years ago, long before "Cry baby Kavanaugh" was in the public eye.

As for him being a douche: I believe her testimony: he lied, not just about trying to fuck her but about his drinking history and alleged celibacy.

I wouldn't hire him to mow my lawn, much less pass judgment, and it's not just me: lots of leading lights in the legal profession think he shoudn't be confirmed due to character deficiencies.

Now to watch the payback unfold.

Her telling her therapist about it years ago just means this isn’t completely made up. Victims accuse the wrong people all the time, even if they truly believe they’re right. Maybe he did it, but “maybe” isn’t good enough.

How did he lie about his drinking and celibacy? Has it been confirmed that he blacks out and had sex earlier than suggested? I don’t mean some cockamamie “logic” like “everyone who drinks blacks out”.

Not sure what you mean by “payback”. We’re all on the same team, we want whatever is best for the USA.

I watched two people who knew Kavanaugh back in the day talk about how he got drunk frequently, to the point of him not remembering, usually weekends and sometimes weekdays.

As for celibacy, I find it impossible to believe that a rich spoiled jock like him who was accused of sexual assault never had it off with a woman; maybe he preferred fucking pumpkins?

The payback will come when he gets to rule on cases near and dear to the liberals.

It's a damned shame the court has gotten so politicized in the last couple of decades; oh sure politics always played a role in selecting a judge but the divisiveness seems unprecedented, at least in my life time.

I know plenty people that have gotten drunk frequently, especially in college. 2 of them, I don’t think they’ve ever blacked out. It’s kinda amazing how they can have a perfect recollection of the night before, even though they were stumbling all over themselves, throwing up, the whole 10 yards.

Kavanaugh also graduated top of his class. It’s hard to believe someone could do so well in school but also drink so much, isn’t it? But hey, it happens.


So yeah, unless you have something better than “his friends said he got really drunk....”, I’m not going to take ya seriously.

What better proof is there than statements from eye witnesses?

FWIW the issue is NOT whether he drank and got drunk.

No, the concern is that he testified that while he enjoyed beer he didn't drink to get drunk, and always had his wits about him.

People who knew him dispute that claim, saying he was a frequent, hard care drinker who would lose self-control when drunk.

Which would be fine, except he lied about it; if he lied about that, then what about his claim of innocence re: sexual assault?

Whatever, I am not trying to convince you or anybody else, it's just the way I see it.

V's ideology has him believing bullshit. Blasey Ford is a criminal fraud. The 2nd front door she said she put on her home in 2012 because of paranoia? It was installed in 2008 so they could run a marriage counseling service out of their home.

Blasey Ford's fear of flying? Her ex boyfriend said she frequently flew back and forth to and from Hawaii. Lefty idiots think we're stupid enough to fall for the con job.

Blasey Ford's ex boyfriend said she lived for years in a small apartment with just one door. Criminal fraud.

Remember her testimony on her lie detector test? "There was this machine and....and some wires were coming out of it." Like she was oblivious to what it was. Former students say she prepped them for lie detector tests. Criminal Fraud.

Blasey Ford can't remember the year, the location, how she got there, how she got home. And left her best friend in the rape house without warning. Criminal fraud.

Leland Keyser, Ford's best friend that supposedly got left at the rape house said she didn't know Kavanaugh and never met him.

Keyser said she was pressured by a Ford friend, an FBI agent, to corroborate Ford's story. She wouldn't do it.

All this evidence out there and liberal assclown V pulls the "I believe her!" Bullshit.

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Through all the allegations, charges. Interviews, trial, Ted Bundy never raised his voice, never spoke a word in anger. He remained calm throughout the ordeal. Unlike Kavanaugh, Ted Bundy had the right temperment to be on the SCOTUS. To bad he died.

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Might be your best post ever. "To bad he died", hilarious.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

No corroboration?

She disclosed details of the event to her therapist many years ago, long before "Cry baby Kavanaugh" was in the public eye.

As for him being a douche: I believe her testimony: he lied, not just about trying to fuck her but about his drinking history and alleged celibacy.

I wouldn't hire him to mow my lawn, much less pass judgment, and it's not just me: lots of leading lights in the legal profession think he shoudn't be confirmed due to character deficiencies.

Now to watch the payback unfold.

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No corroboration. Her “witnesses” all deny her account. The therapist? As far I know, we don’t know what was in the therapist’s notes because they wouldn’t release them. The problem V, is that her narrative kept changing. One to the therapist, one to Feinstein, and one to the WaPost.

The only comment here is that when there were traumatic events in my and other friends lives, I recalled everything in vivid detail. For one, I can still plainly see the evil looking eyes of the huge water moccasin I stepped on to this day. I remember taking my .22 to our little pond with the thought of swinging across the inlet of our little pond. I thought I had stepped on a cow patty and when I looked down, he was as big as my legl I picked up my rifle, but looked him in the eyes and said, " You didn't kill me-I won't kill you!" I was only 16 and we had no transportation or phone out n the country. Dad user the car for work.

While I accept the result and will "move on," the experience has surely tainted both participants and has not served to advance notions of democracy / democratic ideals.

My suggestion to avoid such a travesty again is simple: require a 60% vote to confirm, not 50%.

The Republicans created this mess when they forced through the new rule change to reduce the necessary percentage from the pre-existing 60% to the current simple majority: it avoids the need to seek consensus and leads to further polarization.

And yeah, there is something very wrong with that.

I was under the impression the Dems changed it from 60% to a simple majority ( >50% ), even though the Republicans were thinking about it earlier. Were you bitching about this back then when the nuclear option was implemented, or just now because you think the Dems should be able to hold off on Kav? Nevermind, I think I know.

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I was under the impression the Dems changed it from 60% to a simple majority ( >50% ), even though the Republicans were thinking about it earlier. Were you bitching about this back then when the nuclear option was implemented, or just now because you think the Dems should be able to hold off on Kav? Nevermind, I think I know.

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McConnell pushed through a rules change to end the filibuster on Supreme Court nominees and lower the threshold for confirmation from 60 to a simple majority.

Yeah, I opposed the Republicans pushing through the "nuclear option" rule change as I knew that shit like this would be the end result.

I believe the Democrats started the "change" from the 60 percent rule five years ago for some appointments, but not any Supreme Court individuals. The Republicans invoked the "nuclear option" last year for Gorsuch. Hence, both parries have maneuvered themselves from the 60 percent majority, when they had the votes.

As an Independent, it makes you long for the Whig party to reemerge.

We certainly are ripe for the emergence of a viable third party, preferably one that will capture the attention and energy of those under forty.

The young-uns need to get politically involved or else this clusterfuck will continue.

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Originally Posted by Deech

I believe the Democrats started the "change" from the 60 percent rule five years ago for some appointments, but not any Supreme Court individuals. The Republicans invoked the "nuclear option" last year for Gorsuch. Hence, both parries have maneuvered themselves from the 60 percent majority, when they had the votes.

As an Independent, it makes you long for the Whig party to reemerge.

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You are correct Deech.

In 2013 Democrats used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments (except for appointments to the Supreme Court). Thank Harry Reid.

The problem now is, Democrats won’t accept republican nominations. Unlike Kagan and Sotamayor. Bipartisanship is just a word the dems throw around but gets thrown out the window when it comes to republican Supreme Court nominees (Joe Manchin) notwithstanding. It’s all about abortion, as if that’s not already settled law.

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Originally Posted by Deech

I believe the Democrats started the "change" from the 60 percent rule five years ago for some appointments, but not any Supreme Court individuals. The Republicans invoked the "nuclear option" last year for Gorsuch. Hence, both parries have maneuvered themselves from the 60 percent majority, when they had the votes.

As an Independent, it makes you long for the Whig party to reemerge.

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You are correct Deech.

In 2013 Democrats used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments (except for appointments to the Supreme Court). Thank Harry Reid.

The problem now is, Democrats won’t accept republican nominations. Unlike Kagan and Sotamayor. Bipartisanship is just a word the dems throw around but gets thrown out the window when it comes to republican Supreme Court nominees (Joe Manchin) notwithstanding. It’s all about abortion, as if that’s not already settled law.

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This is correct, Harry Reid did start us down this road. He is to blame. Personally I think 60 votes is reasonable for a supreme court confirmation. Since it is rare that either party has 60 votes, it almost requires votes from both parties. A supreme court justice is supposed to be "special". They are supposed to be the best of the best of us. It is not unreasonable to ask that they get 60 votes.

Since you brought up abortion, I have no position on abortion. I know it is a hot button issue, but I just don't care one way or the other. :rolleyes: BUT here is my thought on the subject. The republicans (of which I am registered republican) want to over turn abortion. Republicans don't like Latinos and blacks. The repubs here will argue that, but it is true, in a general sense. So who do they think gets all the abortions? If you do away with abortion, you are going to have even more Latinos and blacks children, and eventually adults running around. You get rid of abortion and you increase the Latino and Black population. ;)

And BTW, the whites that want abortions, will still get theirs. They can afford to go to other countries if need be.

Well he's in. Why does this feel so right and so wrong at the same time? Maybe Trump actually told the truth (for once)- everyone has a load of dirty laundry in their past.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

We certainly are ripe for the emergence of a viable third party, preferably one that will capture the attention and energy of those under forty.

The young-uns need to get politically involved or else this clusterfuck will continue.

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I disagree V. I think the “young-uns” are involved and are part of the reason we have this clusterfuck. Millennials are being told that socialism is good and getting free stuff is their birthright. They’re being taught to not revere the Constitution and the rule of law. Now, if you (dems) don’t control the house, don’t control the senate, and don’t control the White House, you (dems) resort to revolutionary tactics. Ambush people in restaurants, in elevators and at airports. Scream, harass, and get in their faces.

President Obama said elections have consequences. It’s time more people accepted that notion.

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Originally Posted by Deech

I believe the Democrats started the "change" from the 60 percent rule five years ago for some appointments, but not any Supreme Court individuals. The Republicans invoked the "nuclear option" last year for Gorsuch. Hence, both parries have maneuvered themselves from the 60 percent majority, when they had the votes.

As an Independent, it makes you long for the Whig party to reemerge.

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You are correct Deech.

In 2013 Democrats used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments (except for appointments to the Supreme Court). Thank Harry Reid.

The problem now is, Democrats won’t accept republican nominations. Unlike Kagan and Sotamayor. Bipartisanship is just a word the dems throw around but gets thrown out the window when it comes to republican Supreme Court nominees (Joe Manchin) notwithstanding. It’s all about abortion, as if that’s not already settled law.

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This is correct, Harry Reid did start us down this road. He is to blame. Personally I think 60 votes is reasonable for a supreme court confirmation. Since it is rare that either party has 60 votes, it almost requires votes from both parties. A supreme court justice is supposed to be "special". They are supposed to be the best of the best of us. It is not unreasonable to ask that they get 60 votes.

Since you brought up abortion, I have no position on abortion. I know it is a hot button issue, but I just don't care one way or the other. :rolleyes: BUT here is my thought on the subject. The republicans (of which I am registered republican) want to over turn abortion. Republicans don't like Latinos and blacks. The repubs here will argue that, but it is true, in a general sense. So who do they think gets all the abortions? If you do away with abortion, you are going to have even more Latinos and blacks children, and eventually adults running around. You get rid of abortion and you increase the Latino and Black population. ;)

And BTW, the whites that want abortions, will still get theirs. They can afford to go to other countries if need be.

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KJ

I disagree that republicans want to overturn abortion. Roe v Wade is settled law. I believe that most Democrats want abortion on demand, right up to birth. I also believe that most republicans are against late term abortions. That doesn’t mean they want to overturn abortion.

I strongly disagree with your contention that republicans don’t like Latinos and blacks. I don’t feel that way nor know ANY republican that feels that way. The rest of your post I had trouble following. Republicans want to overturn abortion and don’t like blacks and Latinos, but if they succeeded in the former they’d get more of the latter?

51 republican senators. 48 white, 1 Black, 1 Latino (Rubio), 1 part Latino (Cruz). LOL!

Kudos to kwqlJ. Twice he has given an honest independent thought on the hearings. Politics is difficult. In my opinion, there is no correct side to many arguments.

As a parent, you do not want your daughter to testify in any setting. Likewise you do not want your son to be accused of certain transgressions. I have both, one son and one daughter. My wife is in fear as to what can happen to males. I am shocked by this. Yes, obviously, in the mid 80's her boss' boss made the moves. She made the evasive maneuvers.

Politics stinks. Love you guys. Please MC/Monet give me a play.

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I disagree V. I think the “young-uns” are involved and are part of the reason we have this clusterfuck.

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Neither of the current parties reflect their values.

They should have a party which they can believe in.

The only reason Herr Trump got elected was because of the schism with the Democrats: had Bernie not siphoned off votes the Wicked Bitch of the West would have gotten in.

Have a two as opposed to a three party system: what could it hurt?

Oh yeah, overturn the court decision which allows corporations to contribute: that's an abomination.

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I disagree V. I think the “young-uns” are involved and are part of the reason we have this clusterfuck.

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Neither of the current parties reflect their values.

They should have a party which they can believe in.

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It sure seemed like they believed in Bernie’s message, but he got hosed by the DNC rigging it for Hillary. Perhaps he should have just ran on his own party platform as a Socialist.

Harry Reid abused the hell out of the nuclear option sending a ton of judges through to a vote without debate. McConnel was pissed off to high heaven about it. The lower courts are now heavily stacked with lefty activist judges. Reid was repeatedly warned that the nuclear option could come back to bite dems in the ass. And that's what's happened. What goes around comes around. So I think what we are going to see now is SCOTUS overruling a lot of lower court decisions.

The big question now is how long can Ruth Bader Ginsburg live. Trump might get to solidify the court even further.

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The republicans (of which I am registered republican) want to over turn abortion. Republicans don't like Latinos and blacks. The repubs here will argue that, but it is true, in a general sense.

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You forgot that republicans also don't like cock-sucking queers. And stop with your nonsense claim of " I'm a registered republican". You believe in the republican party as much as we believe your bullshit claims of 15 years of counting cards successfully for a living in Las Vegas of all places.

Everyone knows what I think of Mickey, but you have to give him credit when it comes to his political views based on facts.

And in other news Cory Booker has replaced Diane Feinstein as Chairman of the democratic party's Accuser Procurement Committee.

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You forgot that republicans also don't like cock-sucking queers. And stop with your nonsense claim of " I'm a registered republican". You believe in the republican party as much as we believe your bullshit claims of 15 years of counting cards successfully for a living in Las Vegas of all places.

Everyone knows what I think of Mickey, but you have to give him credit when it comes to his political views based on facts.

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Nobody cares what you think, including your homophobic rage. You are a "ghost" blackhole, dead and irrelevant to the rest of the world.

Kewlj can dish it out, but....

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Kewlj can dish it out, but....

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I see. Because you don't like me, because I am an AP and you are anti-AP, and for whatever other reasons you have, you think this kind of thing is alright. Your dislike of me is clouding your sense of decency, Alan Mendelson. Or maybe you just have no sense of decency. :rolleyes:

But that's ok. If these are the rules, then I don't want to hear you cry when I or anyone else makes some anti-Semitic comments. If hate rhetoric is allowed then let the hate rain down.

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Kewlj can dish it out, but....

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I see. Because you don't like me, because I am an AP and you are anti-AP, and for whatever other reasons you have, you think this kind of thing is alright. Your dislike of me is clouding your sense of decency, Alan Mendelson. Or maybe you just have no sense of decency. :rolleyes:

But that's ok. If these are the rules, then I don't want to hear you cry when I or anyone else makes some anti-Semitic comments. If hate rhetoric is allowed then let the hate rain down.

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Wasting your time KJ, you know it, I know, everyone knows it. But say something about Alan and his religion persuasion and your a racist, bigot, and the worst person to walk the Earth. You hit it best when you said time is the only cure for him.

But damn, he is a skid mark on society while he lives. At least Stations benefits from him still breathing. Other then the servers at the cafe he stiffs with his shitty tips of course.

Blah blah blah....the only point that matters here is how badly Trump beat the idiot Democrats with this YET AGAIN!

Evil. Never. Wins.

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Blah blah blah....the only point that matters here is how badly Trump beat the idiot Democrats with this YET AGAIN!

Evil. Never. Wins.

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No time to rest on their laurels, they need to know the crazies on the left will keep coming. And they showed there is no level they won’t stoop to. There will always be a segment of the population too stupid and lazy to make anything of their life and the Dems know it. Risk taking away their handouts and they will fight back.

Sadly it’s only starting, evil can win if good people allow it. Vote GOP for free America!

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51 republican senators. 48 white, 1 Black, 1 Latino (Rubio), 1 part Latino (Cruz). LOL!

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49 democratic senators including 2 that are hiding under the banner of being independent. 43 white, 1 Black, 1 Latino (Menendez), 1 part Latino (Cortez-Masto), 2 Asian, 1 Indian-Jamaican (Harris).

Throw out the 2 Asians and Harris and the dems are not as diverse as people think they are.

I thought I would put up some pictures of some racist conservatives so we can all pile on:

https://i.redd.it/0g5zmr9qm1r11.png

What are the odds that an intervention was had for our village idiot?
Been awful quiet around these parts with the MendelFOOL missing in action. I wonder if SlaPinHISjuNk got off the couch to take the old man to a GA meeting? Probably a shocker to hear that a 3rd 100k royal went back in spades + the pension.

I don't see him going to GA.

He moved to Las Vegas: he's burned his bridges.

Who in their right mind would live in that hell hole unless they gambled or worked for a casino?

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Ginsburg looked like she was ready to keel over.

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I don't see him going to GA.

He moved to Las Vegas: he's burned his bridges.

Who in their right mind would live in that hell hole unless they gambled or worked for a casino?

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Looks like the Mendelson contingent has "left the building".

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I don't see him going to GA.

He moved to Las Vegas: he's burned his bridges.

Who in their right mind would live in that hell hole unless they gambled or worked for a casino?

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Looks like the Mendelson contingent has "left the building".

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Let's hope he is getting the help for his addiction that he needs. Also, hopefully it is what was suspected and not something health related keeping him from posting. Although he is an obnoxious tarded out degenerate gambler I'm sure he has some good qualities, unlike his compadre Poor Robbie.

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I don't see him going to GA.

He moved to Las Vegas: he's burned his bridges.

Who in their right mind would live in that hell hole unless they gambled or worked for a casino?

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Looks like the Mendelson contingent has "left the building".

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Let's hope he is getting the help for his addiction that he needs. Also, hopefully it is what was suspected and not something health related keeping him from posting. Although he is an obnoxious tarded out degenerate gambler I'm sure he has some good qualities, unlike his compadre Poor Robbie.

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The healthiest gambling forums are dead and abandoned. Fertile ground for thinking anew. Hope.

The unhealthiest, the ones where we delight in our tools, our food, our math, our computers, our thinking, etc. Such things can never be a game, or that which makes us more than human. Don't play with your food.

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Looks like the Mendelson contingent has "left the building".

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Let's hope he is getting the help for his addiction that he needs. Also, hopefully it is what was suspected and not something health related keeping him from posting. Although he is an obnoxious tarded out degenerate gambler I'm sure he has some good qualities, unlike his compadre Poor Robbie.

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The healthiest gambling forums are dead and abandoned. Fertile ground for thinking anew. Hope.

The unhealthiest, the ones where we delight in our tools, our food, our math, our computers, our thinking, etc. Such things can never be a game, or that which makes us more than human. Don't play with your food.

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Hey Socrates, this is a gambling site...the name is VEGAS CASINO TALK....get it, you f’n crackpot?

We could change the name to Vegas Casino Crackpots? Holy cow, that actually sounds about right.