The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

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09-28-2023, 05:03 PM
MDawg

The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

My original challenge, now expired:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

THE UNKEWL CHALLENGE

If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH. The question just is, what is he willing to put up if he cannot produce the proof he claims exists. Since he "knows" he got the settlemeant, I'd assume that he'd put up any amount, since he "knows" he will win this challenge?

He doesn't have to meet me, he can provide the proof to the Wizard who will be back in town soon enough and can handle this. Hell, I don't care, he can provide it to MrV if he likes, MrV won't even have to come to Vegas all he will have to do is login to UNKewlJ's meager bank account to see that there is nothing there, barely two nickels to rub together and no record of any ACH from Saturday, 6/24/23. He may change the banking login password to something simple, facilitate Wizard or V's login, and then change it afterwards.

I know such evidence does not exist. It is impossible that he received an ACH after midnight on a Saturday (meaning, after 11:59pm Friday, 6/23/23).

I am in Vegas now and will leave this offer open for one week.

How about it UNKewlJ, is it worth it to you to double what you supposedly got in this settlement, in one blow? AND prove yourself.

UNKewlJ's counter:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

UNKewlJ stated that he accepted that the wager is over whether or not he received a settlement via electronic transfer into his bank account on June 24, 2023 (the "after Friday midnight" he claimed as the posting time and date) for his alleged backrooming incident, but wanted $500K deposited up front, with nothing put up by him, and no penalty if he fails to provide the proof.

UNKewlJ later lowered this to $300K

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

300K will do so. So I have come down from the original 500k

and seedvalue has ACCEPTED.

Of course, even though UNKewLyingJ’s said many times in the past that he cannot disclose how much he got in the settlement

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

He has (once again) more than implied how much he got, even though, he keeps changing this story, and the latest version of the story, is that he got somewhere around $300K

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I want an amount that will cover the settlement amount. 300K will do so. So I have come down from the original 500k, even though it sort of tells what the amount is, which I was not supposed to reveal.

which of course would mean that the matter was settled for over $450,000. :rolleyes: such that the UNKewl (unKleen) portion would be around $300,000., after the usual 1/3 taken off the top by an attorney for a contingency matter.

So much for his claim that he is barred from discussing the amount he supposedly got. He’s been stumbling over his feet to tell us multiple versions of how much he got, ranging from $50,000. to this latest highest figure of $300,000.

SeedValue's ACCEPTANCE:

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

I’m in on the challenge I will send someone to Vegas on my behalf with 300k cash for Dan to hold in Escrow. I don’t do any of this electronic transfer shit so these rats can figure out a way to snitch on you.

As a bonus my 300k will be a free roll for you fraud j. I will send my 300k with the documentation on who you are. If you fail to hold up your end you must agree to give dan the ok to post the documentation of your identity. This of course goes with dawgs original terms.

Time to come clean FraudJ put up or shut up. I don’t need a lawyer because I know exactly who you are and Dan is a stand up guy.
09-28-2023, 05:05 PM
MDawg

Of course, immediately, UNKewlJ came with the double talk, and continues to do so.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Let me think about this. Free roll or not, you are one of the biggest scammers of people in operation. I was told (won't say by who, because I don't want to cause the person harm...physical or otherwise, mostly otherwise) that you were JWT, to which you pretended to take great offense and justify as a reason to attack me. Once Druff said you were not JWT and I am not sure if that is just his opinion or something more, two different people (including the original) said if you are not JWT you are someone associated with him. And I believe that.

Free Roll or no free roil, I just don't know if I want to get involved with this level of scamming that you represent. Probably something I am missing that would cost me. In my risk/reward analysis, the risk is greater than the reward, even the dangled $300k free roll, which will turn out to be a mirage.

You don't know anything about me. So your threat that you continue to make is nonsense. If you have the need to TRY to dox someone, then post what you want to post and take consequences if it is against forum rules. But I am sure you know nothing about me, based on the pure ridiculous nonsense you have posted for a year. So do what you gotta do.
09-28-2023, 05:14 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Except nobody, neither you nor this seedvalue scammer is really going to put up anything. It is just troll forum games.

That is what you were HOPING by proposing the most preposterous ridiculous one sided terms possible, $500K up front with no penalty even if you lose the wager.

You have no evidence to produce, you know you lied, so the only way for you to save a tiny bit of face is to make up some ridiculous proposal and then try to claim something or other when no one will bite.

But now someone has taken you up on your latest $300K offer. All you have to do is say, YES, and then see if seedvalue delivers or not. If he does, and you're not lying, you just made yourself whatever the sum is that you got in that settlement.

Only problem is, that sum would be zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac

To paraphrase Mission146, you obviously have a "greater than zero" belief that seedvalue is for real, while you have an exactly zero chance that you can produce the evidence you have been lying about. Which is why you're afraid to let him proceed even after he has ACCEPTED all your terms.

Meantime your pea brain is racing trying to figure out some way out of this with more lame lies, to try to explain why you're turning down a second free roll, the first one being from me, the second from seedvalue.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

SeedValue accepted unilaterally UNKewlJ's offer, pursuant to my terms.

All that remains is for UNKewlJ to say YES, and he'll get up to $300K if he can prove that he really got the settlement on June 24, 2023, via transfer to his bank account.

Problem is...he cannot prove what never happened, and so he's gotta make with the double talk.
09-28-2023, 05:23 PM
MDawg

That this bum is afraid to even say YES (to what he himself proposed) and then put the ball in seedvalue's court to come with the money, says everything as far as anyone with any sense may see.
09-28-2023, 05:26 PM
kewlJ

I suspect the results will be as you so desperately want and hope they will be. Because you have found a receptive audience here. But guess what fella, it changes nothing.

I think the real question is one that has been asked multiple times now with no answer. Why would someone who claims to be a multi-millionaire, by birth, and who claims to have won millions from casinos, although he can't explain how, other than voodoo concepts like betting into hot streaks and more recently that he is rainman, and claims to be a practicing attorney to boot, care one iota about a mid-level advantage player grinding out a living.

Something very, very wrong with this picture. As Axelwolf has said many times now, he doesn't know exactly what is going on, but it sure isn't what you claim.

So best of luck with your poll. Hope it comes out as you want. :cool:
09-28-2023, 05:30 PM
kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MDawg

That this bum is afraid to even say YES (to what he himself proposed) and then put the ball in seedvalue's court to come with the money, says everything as far as anyone with any sense may see.

My proposal was to YOU, Mdawg. Seedvalue is a scamming, lunatic conman. I want nothing to do with the likes of him for almost any price. Getting involved with him, I think I would have to actually shoot him to collect my money and I don't want to put myself in that kind of position.
09-28-2023, 05:30 PM
MDawg

How many times have we heard the bum say

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Look I am a professional player

, and yet

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

a professional gambler would be putting forth some effort to make this happen.

+1
09-28-2023, 05:32 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Kew is only proving what a totally inexperienced, complete idiot he is with his incessant whining.

It's pretty simple: NO ONE WHO IS 100% CERTAIN THEY WILL RECEIVE A WINDFALL--OR IN THE CASE OF WELCHING, COMPLETE EXONERATION AT THE VERY LEAST--JUST FOR PROVIDING PROOF OF RECEIVING SETTLEMENT FUNDS, WOULD EVER CREATE SPECIAL PROVISIONS THAT WOULD CAUSE THE BOAT TO ROCK EVEN SLIGHTLY.

Only a total fraud would waste so much time diverting and deflecting.
09-28-2023, 05:32 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I know if I had someone offering to give me 6 figures I'd definitely match an amount in escrow or whatever to get it done. But we know there was no settlement.

Druff could easily be the judge while a legal escrow held the money for disbursement after clearly defined guidelines were met. This is easy just like any challenge to meet.

Congrats FraudJ you have replaced Rob in forum land. You also have more lies than any forum poster in history.
09-28-2023, 05:33 PM
kewlJ

If you win a wager or proposal like this and can't collect, what have you won?

This is part of weighing risk v reward which I do and I believe most real players do. I am not surprised you have no clue about this.

Dude, you can quote God and it wouldn't matter to me.
09-28-2023, 05:34 PM
MDawg

You're so blinded by your absurd lying that you can't even make the slightest sense, and have been babbling like this for months now.

All you have to do is say YES and see if seedvalue will bring the money to Dan for him to hold.

And you know this, and the reason you won't say yes is BECAUSE you're afraid that seedvalue will in fact deliver the money.

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Originally Posted by jdog

... prove to EVERYONE in here that you're not completely full of shit.
09-28-2023, 06:13 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I commented a while back that Boz was sounding more and more like ulp UNKewlJ, and this … puts him more in line with UNKewlJ.

https://i.imgur.com/zYFdmhWl.jpg
09-28-2023, 06:19 PM
accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If you win a wager or proposal like this and can't collect, what have you won?

This is part of weighing risk v reward which I do and I believe most real players do. I am not surprised you have no clue about this.

Dude, you can quote God and it wouldn't matter to me.

FraudJ, Various approaches have been suggested to minimize your loss. You have no interest in any of that because you are a fraud.

#nextthread
09-28-2023, 06:28 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

FraudJ, Various approaches have been suggested to minimize your loss. You have no interest in any of that because you are a fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJSZqSfloEE
09-28-2023, 06:30 PM
Treeshade

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MDawg

That this bum is afraid to even say YES (to what he himself proposed) and then put the ball in seedvalue's court to come with the money, says everything as far as anyone with any sense may see.

My proposal was to YOU, Mdawg. Seedvalue is a scamming, lunatic conman. I want nothing to do with the likes of him for almost any price. Getting involved with him, I think I would have to actually shoot him to collect my money and I don't want to put myself in that kind of position.

A con man lol if only you knew how absurd that notion is. I see what your game is tho .. deflection trying to pass me off as jeffery warren toll. However literally everyone knows this is not correct.

Do tell how I can scam you by sending 300k to dandruff in cash ? The bottom line is your a fraud and these desperate attempts to deflect only prove everyone’s suspicions. Get a life loser
09-28-2023, 06:48 PM
Tasha

The Mdawg vs Kewlj feud stinks REALLY badly. It stinks like rotten meat, rotten fish, rotten eggs, and rotten roadkill all in one! :(
09-28-2023, 06:49 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by MDawg

All you have to do is say YES and see if seedvalue will bring the money to Dan for him to hold.

And you know this, and the reason you won't say yes is BECAUSE you're afraid that seedvalue will in fact deliver the money.

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Originally Posted by jdog

... prove to EVERYONE in here that you're not completely full of shit.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

On My dead family members I would send 300k cash to Dan if this fraud accepted the bet piggybacking on the dawgs offer

Here’s the thing he absolutely KNOWS that is identify is not a secret to me unless he is a complete idiot. Thus his Hail merry attempt to say I’m jefftollscammer

It’s his last big attempt to discredit me and protect his facade. It’s been game over for him well before Max decided to put time into figuring out his settlement story.

Gunplay Kewj is a fraud
09-28-2023, 08:10 PM
Gottlob1

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Originally Posted by Tasha

The Mdawg vs Kewlj feud stinks REALLY badly. It stinks like rotten meat, rotten fish, rotten eggs, and rotten roadkill all in one! :(

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But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Those guys, and their entourage, make V look normal. Ha.
09-28-2023, 08:27 PM
MDawg

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Just out of curiosity, you people that propose, accept, and move the goal posts on these 5 figure, 6 figure wagers....has one ever come to fruition...or just internet ego games?

What a kook. "You people" - UNKewlJ is the one who took my proposal and changed it into "put up a half million, I'll put up nothing and even if I lose I'll pay nothing."

Meantime, seedvalue has accepted UNKewlJ's proposal IN ITS ENTIRETY and yet still UNKewlJ is mumbling about how he doesn't want to go forward with it.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

The money can be on the way within hours of you accepting. The catch tho is you get doxed for backing out: better come correct on this one fraudj

As stated I will send pm to Dan with the number of my runner and a time to meet based on his availability’s

All cash homie bet

Seriously there isn't ONE THING that this clown has mumbled about "you won't see me doing so and so" that he hasn't done, and done first, and worse than anyone else. Seriously, mental illness and sociopathy are the only explanations for such blatant hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted by Gottlob1

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.
09-28-2023, 08:48 PM
Gottlob1

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But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

---> The Writing Attributed to Thomas the Apostle Concerning the Conversation of the Lord in His Childhood [early on. Ha.]

https://anagram-solver.net/Butbytheg...e?partial=true

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by Gottlob1

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

https://youtu.be/Pbn6a0AFfnM

I don't know, but for some reason, that was the first(?) bible verse that I didn't thus analyze, right away. Anyway, apparently, Jesus was quite the devil in his youth.

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The text describes the life of the child Jesus from the ages of five to twelve, with fanciful, and sometimes malevolent, supernatural events. He is presented as a precocious child who starts his education early. The stories cover how the young Incarnation of God matures and learns to use his powers for good and how those around him first respond in fear and later with admiration. One of the episodes involves Jesus making clay birds, which he then proceeds to bring to life, an act also attributed to Jesus in Quran 5:110, and in a medieval Jewish work known as Toledot Yeshu, although Jesus's age at the time of the event is not specified in either account. In another episode, a child disperses water that Jesus has collected. Jesus kills this first child, when at age one he curses a boy, which causes the child's body to wither into a corpse. Later, Jesus kills another child via curse when the child apparently accidentally bumps into Jesus, throws a stone at Jesus, or punches Jesus (depending on the translation).

When Joseph and Mary's neighbors complain, Jesus miraculously strikes them blind. Jesus then starts receiving lessons, but tries to teach the teacher, instead, upsetting the teacher who suspects supernatural origins. Jesus is amused by this suspicion, which he confirms, and revokes all his earlier apparent cruelty. Subsequently, he resurrects a friend who is killed when he falls from a roof, and heals another who cuts his foot with an axe.

After various other demonstrations of supernatural ability, new teachers try to teach Jesus, but he proceeds to explain the law to them instead. Another set of miracles is mentioned, in which Jesus heals his brother, who is bitten by a snake, and two others, who have died from different causes. Finally, the text recounts the episode in Luke in which Jesus, aged 12, teaches in the temple.

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