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How's this for an unusual event:
A player hit the $1 video poker progressive -- but the slot crew failed to reset the meter on the progressive. After the handpay was given and the slot attendants left the meter continued to run and grow on the royal. It was not reset to $4,000.
The royal hit for about $4200 and continued to move higher after the handpay.
As I think about what happened at Rincon, I have to ask "aren't the meters automatic on the progressive machines, and wouldn't they reset automatically?" I've played on the $5 progressives when someone hit the royal and all of the machines reset to $20,000 and the machine with the royal would be reset after the hand pay and the slot attendant turns the key to unlock the machine.
I wonder if there is a defect on that bank of $1 machines that they didn't know about?
Alan, I think this was a good time to use PMs rather than posting. Or, to paraphrase Mr. Spock, "The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many, and also outweigh the needs of casino management."
This was not confidential information. Something happened and I reported it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
What are the paytables?
Maybe they didn't reset it because the paytables are already bad, and a $4200 royal only adds 0.020% to the expected return.
For example, a 9-5 DDB progressive would need well over $8000 for the royal for the machine to be +EV.
It's 8/5 double double bonus.
There was no change of any kind in the royal pay. Earlier one of the quad progressives hit and that reset to its base amount.
Okay, but that's a pretty awful game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
It's 96.79% return.
The royal would have to reach about $10,430 (instead of the base of $4000) for this to be a +EV game.
Needless to say, a $4200 forgotten-to-be-reset royal is nothing to shout to the internet.
I don't blame you for posting it. I also find it interesting that they forgot to reset it, and you're right -- it probably was an oversight.
I'm just saying that these games are awwwwwwwwwwwful unless the progressive gets really high.
Actually it points to perhaps a bigger problem. I think those systems are automatic or are supposed to be.
For example when quad 2,3,4 hit that progressive automatically reset on all of the games linked to the progressive. When quad aces with a kicker hits you will hear a moan go up from the players when the progressive amount for that resets.
I don't think the royal progressive needs to be reset by any slot attendant -- I think it's supposed to happen automatically and this time it did not.
This makes me wonder if there are other problems with the system including that the progressives were not increasing by the proper amount with each play?
Last year at horseshoe Indiana I hit a progressive royal. Seconds later the lady 2 machines over from me thought she hit the progressive royal. Neither of us knows if the progressive reset immediately upon my hit or not, but she was only paid the 4,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I think it's pretty safe to say that anyone playing video poker these days at Rincon isn't concerned about the return on any game. Only a few 8/5 Bonus-type games remain and everything else has a diminished pay table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
But it seems to me Alan that you go to Rincon once or twice a week. Why do you go there? Didn't you swear off going to Rincon long ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The only time I go to Rincon now is to play my free play while it lasts.