Jackpot STEAM!!

I've got a little bit of time before the girls get up and we go skiing up at Tahoe for the day. I'm even cooking everyone breakfast! So while I'm spending some of that jackpot money that's twisted everyone in knots and helped them locate those pits in their stomachs over the past six months or so, it's only appropriate--and actually the humane thing to do around here--that I allow you all some time today to assist in letting off some of that pent up steam over my plethora of big wins lately. We all know losers just can't stand reading about how others win. Heck, remember how you felt the last time you had to ENDURE the fat-ass lady sitting next to you--yes YOU...such a self-professed INFORMED player--only to have to sit thru the absolute horror of another royal flush that was not yours? And who says I won't help you stomach all these disappointments! Opportunities abound....even for those who just will not learn their lesson about how to become a strong, winning player in vp like me.

A. The first level of steam-release is how I HAVE to be parking my butt in high limit rooms, patiently waiting on lucky rich people to hit big winners, only to run over and snap quik pics! Now there's a fun scenario!

B. Now if that doesn't sell, then it just HAS to be that I've taken advanced photoshop classes and have mastered the art of turning quarter wins into huge handpay jackpot wins, complete with verification overlays and amounts! Wow! I'm still learning after all these years!!

C. But gee, if that isn't cutting it very well, then I MUST be sending out throngs of heavy hitters to win, come back with the goods AND the juicy pictures, so I can create winning scenarios! Yikes-- where'd I get so many "well-hung" friends?!

D. Oh my....but we need more. So now I'm a time-travelling/date-stamping/picture-snapping manipulator! But I pack 3 phones and an old camera, with some pictures spot on that no one will mention, and some not so much! Holy Toledo! But where on earth could I be getting these pictures? Hmmm....back to the photoshopping again, except for that pesky little 'ol $25 off-center decal that WAS the "talk of the town"...That is, until someone actually turned hopeful theory into stinging reality.

E. So now, at the end of everyone's ropes, what could we possibly have left for this old bucket of steam? Oh yes: when all else fails, soothe the soul by pretending that since I don't mention how many points I accumulated and at times, explain the strategy used and always identify the win/loss but ignore the meaningless stat , again sometimes, about how long I sat at machines, it just HAS GOT TO BE that I'm a net loser overall. Of course, on a forum mostly inhabited by self-proclaimed losers who have little clue on how to play the game properly, there can't POSSIBLY be a big winner among them--especially one who only plays those darn -EV games!

So there you have it: let it all out folks, you'll sleep much better at night! I'm gonna get started on the potato pancakes and omelettes!!

Rob... no more. I don't doubt you hit big jackpots. But as I said so, so, so many times... someone who plays as much as you should hit many jackpots.

In fact, Rob, I saw someone the other night at Rincon who hit more big jackpots than you did. On three separate machines this lady had quad aces showing awaiting handpays and on the third machine there was also a kicker. I also saw her hit quad 7s on DDB three times on the same machine, KKKK two more times, and a quad 2s with an Ace once.

And... she didn't have to bank soft profits or make special plays to leave the casino with a big wad of cash.

And yet another useless thread. My wooden shoes are dancing. Why is this guy still here?

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

Why is this guy still here?

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Because I am giving him every chance -- every opportunity -- to admit he made a mistake or that he doesn't play according to his "system." (He pretty much said that when he told us he does hold kickers. And now we've determined that he doesn't make only planned visits to casinos but also makes spur of the moment "drop in" visits which is something he accuses addicts of doing since it is a flaw in the discipline routine.)

By now it's pretty obvious to everyone that there are too many inconsistencies in the entire package, and when you look at the individual elements of the entire package there are inconsistencies in those individual elements as well.

Now, with that said -- this doesn't mean that Rob Singer won big money before and continues to win big money now. But what it does mean is that he does not follow his own system to the letter and is probably guilty of falling victim to the same "gambling crimes" he has accused others of committing.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

this doesn't mean that Rob Singer won big money before and continues to win big money now. But what it does mean is that he does not follow his own system to the letter and is probably guilty of falling victim to the same "gambling crimes" he has accused others of committing.

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It also doesn't mean he did win big money. For all we know he lost more than he won. Reality check, we will never know because Rob has been telling BS stories for about 2 years now (on this forum alone). Was it really worth 2 years of insults to discover a couple of inconsistencies which he obviously denies, followed by a new set of insults? Way to go!

His inconsistencies have also uncovered your inconsistencies Alan. Your "banning policy" is inconsistent. As I have said before, you accept way more BS from Singer than from anybody else and I know you don't like it when somebody confronts you with that fact. It doesn't make it less true though.

2 years and 1000's of posts on this forum didn't provide any news about Rob's "strategy" for those with a functioning brain and actual math knowledge. It was pretty obvious to almost everyone his "strategy" was leaking through a 100 holes when he first explained it. Most of us didn't need any additional "knowledge". It was obvious 2 years ago that Rob has been living in lala land for ages. But continue to enjoy the "fun", even if you're getting nowhere.

Why is this guy still here?

Rob is here because I want him here and for a very practical reason: if he were banned he would be able to tell everyone and anyone who listens to him that he never had a chance to explain his side of the story to his critics.

Well, Rob is not being banned. He is free to tell and invited to tell his side of the story. So far, he hasn't. He's dodged all the targeted, direct questions. And we have hundreds of his posts here documenting how he has dodged giving straight-forward responses.

Rob if the rest of us are wrong, you have this forum to tell us we're wrong. But please (because we are tired of your online forum dancing) give us a straight answer. If that straight answer means you won your money by not adhering to your strategy and system 100% of the time or even 50% of the time, just let it spill out. No one can take the wins away from you and a STRONG PLAYER and a STRONG EXPERT would know when they should use their own system, and when it is OK to deviate from that system.

Are you STRONG??

Vegas_lover regarding the other forum member who was banned -- it was a two week ban and it wasn't only because of the way he attacked and insulted me. He also attacked and insulted another member of the forum. And it wasn't just an attack and insult, but in the case of the other forum member he revealed personal information which had no business being posted here. If the forum member who was banned for two weeks wishes to come back he is welcome to. If I heard from him, or from our mutual friemd that he realizes his mistake, the ban could be lifted early.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Vegas_lover regarding the other forum member who was banned -- it was a two week ban and it wasn't only because of the way he attacked and insulted me. He also attacked and insulted another member of the forum. And it wasn't just an attack and insult, but in the case of the other forum member he revealed personal information which had no business being posted here. If the forum member who was banned for two weeks wishes to come back he is welcome to. If I heard from him, or from our mutual friemd that he realizes his mistake, the ban could be lifted early.

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I call double standard on this one. Rob has insulted and attacked every forum member around here more than once. Not enough reason to ban him.

Rob has revealed personal info about another forum member. Not enough reason to ban him.

Rob can never claim again he didn't have the chance to explain all the details of his "strategy". The footage is visible on your website, all the forum interaction of the last two years shows he's had all the opportunity in the world to share all the details. So far he hasn't. The only thing he has done is dodging questions and throwing around insults. So you rather choose to not turn your forum into something constructive but continue this BS for the next two years?

In other words, if you don't see enough reasons to ban Rob, you shouldn't even consider to ban anybody else.

Rob was banned for the very reasons you mentioned. Then I invited him back.

At this juncture there is more value for the greater good in keeping him here to explain himself... or to show the video poker community that he can't explain himself.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Rob was banned for the very reasons you mentioned. Then I invited him back.

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That's right Alan, just to return in a couple of days with even worse behavior than before the ban. But we will never agree on this matter. My point remains, if you're not willing to ban Rob for his current behavior there is absolutely no reason to ban Dante or anybody else. By banning Rob again (temporarily) you might actually force him to communicate as a civil human being. If he doesn't clean up his act, throw him out again and again and again. As often as needed to make him clean up his act. You know he'll come back with his tail between his legs because that's what he did after his first ban AND because there's no other forum left out there that actually allows him to post.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Rob... no more. I don't doubt you hit big jackpots. But as I said so, so, so many times... someone who plays as much as you should hit many jackpots.

In fact, Rob, I saw someone the other night at Rincon who hit more big jackpots than you did. On three separate machines this lady had quad aces showing awaiting handpays and on the third machine there was also a kicker. I also saw her hit quad 7s on DDB three times on the same machine, KKKK two more times, and a quad 2s with an Ace once.

And... she didn't have to bank soft profits or make special plays to leave the casino with a big wad of cash.

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Luckily we're all going out for dinner tonight and Mr. Chef isn't called upon to cook again after 3 grueling downhill runs. Critics would have LOVED to see me wipe out and nearly hit a tree at a high rate of speed a few hours ago. But then, who would they have to provoke them? Vegas-Lover and his rants? Not likely. In this world, the large countries regularly crush the smaller ones. Same with the important people vs. the little folks: squish Why, he hasn't yet come to the realization that even the Belgians regularly destroy Dutch arrogance. :)

Onto your concerns Alan. I know you understand I'm hitting these big winners. What that lady did and indeed, what you do a lot, is happening regularly to me recently. You play enough to see that while the others hardly ever play and when they do they lose, the result is they whine over the salt I've been pouring into their wounds. Your beef is in how often these are hit vs. how much playing time I put in, and you also can't wrap your hands around the soft profits--which played a very meaningful part in my winning nearly a million dollars as a professional. I can't explain the zone I'm in right now other than to say I'm on fire now and it's the luckiest I've ever been, I am NOT playing any more than I explain with each hit, and I have not played a lick in-between any of my postings. And I understand completely that you're having trouble with it, and I can just imagine what the ones who rarely play have had to go thru with each win.

I've admitted to being an addict many times now, and while I believe I have it completely under control and have since 1999, I do probably play too much for comfort these days when I did not plan to. But I am winning at an incredible clip, and while that's no excuse for playing more than the once a month I planned on, winning certainly helps. I fully expect the machines to slap me down and back into "reality" any time now. But the ride at the top is fun for now. I am going out to play tonight after dinner after I get the girls home. We'll see what happens. I'm taking $2000 and haven't made up my mind as to what I'll play for strategy yet, if any. Most likely I'll helter-skelter it and go for a crazy game like deuces or multi-play--or both. But I will post my results one way or the other.

BTW, again, what do you mean by "verifying" a win? How do you do that? (or is it in a locker at LAX?)

Verifying a win is simple Rob, but you won't do it: show us your win/loss from the casinos or any other casino document that tracks your actual play, coin-in and coin-out, etc. If you really had the proof and wanted to stop your critics you would allow me to access it. You won't. We all know you won't. Hence the never ending circle.

But Vegas_lover is right about something -- and we have discussed this before in private emails, phone calls and even in person. It's time for you to clean up your act. And I think NOW is a good time to start.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

But Vegas_lover is right about something -- and we have discussed this before in private emails, phone calls and even in person. It's time for you to clean up your act. And I think NOW is a good time to start.

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And since all that talking about the subject didn't help you one bit, NOW is a good time to start enforcing it. Throw him out after the next insult and throw him out for 2 weeks. When he comes back, he can discuss his strategy in a civil matter and with real answers. if he doesn't listen, throw him out again. As often as needed to force him to clean up his act. It isn't all that difficult. It's a matter of choice.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Verifying a win is simple Rob, but you won't do it: show us your win/loss from the casinos or any other casino document that tracks your actual play, coin-in and coin-out, etc. If you really had the proof and wanted to stop your critics you would allow me to access it. You won't. We all know you won't. Hence the never ending circle.

But Vegas_lover is right about something -- and we have discussed this before in private emails, phone calls and even in person. It's time for you to clean up your act. And I think NOW is a good time to start.

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I'm not quite sure how one goes about getting up-to-date win/loss statements in mid-year, which is how the cry's been going out since my large winners began. And I'm still not sure about how to get them for the year, because I've never asked for them since the IRS told me in my first audit that they don't mean anything to them. The player's log is the only record that matters.

However--and I've said this twenty times--where has anybody ever done this anywhere before? Have you? How about the crybaby Eddie, or the whining Spock or the frustrated Mr. Dan? The only reason I asked for info about and learned to upload pictures is because you started a thread for big winning hands. Did you ask for these won/loss statements then and/or have you ever provided them as our leader? Gee...could be the reason it's not the standard around here....But now, because a few jealous people want it to be that my wins are somehow fabricated wins--and I include you as one of the jealous ones when you act like this, even though you believe the wins but want and need it to be that I'm a loser overall, or close to it--you want to add another layer. OK, lead from the front and show me how it's done on a weekly, monthly, and yearly basis. Explain the parameters first. Set up the thread for it. Don't just cry wolf . Be proactive. And stop with the moaning about how since I have "extraordinary wins" it requires "extraordinary proof". That's nothing but sour grapes. You weren't asking for this stuff when I posted about extraordinary bad luck with quads, were you. Don't purposely be so vague about this just to appease the paupers. Manage the request properly and you might get somewhere.

You're being toyed with by our friend from Holland. Take my advice: they're used to getting their own way around their women and children, and there's so many potheads roaming around aimlessly in Amsterdam that you never quite know what to expect with these guys. That's why they come across as perpetually conflicted and angry--and why he's jumping up & down like a screaming baby all the time instead of contributing anything of value. But if you're going to let him manipulate you I'll help by coming up with an actual plan instead of all the wavering you do with your requests: I have no problem with being banned, but none of this sissified "2-weeks" for this or that like that wussy Shackleford does. It's permanent or nothing. Again, learn to manage and do it efficiently. Like getting rid of that big jackpot thread. These clowns can't handle it because it's mostly you & I who have enough bankroll to post worthwhile pictures, and all it does is make them envious. The only reason they don't turn on you is because you tell them you''re a lifetime loser so they don't feel so bad and inadequate. I threaten their feeling of worth, which is the reason for all the envy and resulting foolishness. So rid them of their constant torture by 86ing the thread.

Rob's next book--"How to make friends"-- is due out shortly.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

You're being toyed with by our friend from Holland. Take my advice: they're used to getting their own way around their women and children, and there's so many potheads roaming around aimlessly in Amsterdam that you never quite know what to expect with these guys. That's why they come across as perpetually conflicted and angry--and why he's jumping up & down like a screaming baby all the time instead of contributing anything of value. But if you're going to let him manipulate you I'll help by coming up with an actual plan instead of all the wavering you do with your requests: I have no problem with being banned, but none of this sissified "2-weeks" for this or that like that wussy Shackleford does. It's permanent or nothing. Again, learn to manage and do it efficiently. Like getting rid of that big jackpot thread. These clowns can't handle it because it's mostly you & I who have enough bankroll to post worthwhile pictures, and all it does is make them envious. The only reason they don't turn on you is because you tell them you''re a lifetime loser so they don't feel so bad and inadequate. I threaten their feeling of worth, which is the reason for all the envy and resulting foolishness. So rid them of their constant torture by 86ing the thread.

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Robbie, thank you so very much for being so predictable. I can always count on you to prove my point about your poor people and communication skills. There you have it Alan, need I say more?

And to get back to your rant about the big jackpots thread. This clown just laughs about your nonsense. You basically admit you're a gambling addict with a big enough bankroll to post frequent "winners" (which overall could just as easily be overall losers). I on the other hand never posted these pictures because I'm simply not a gambling addict. You have absolutely no knowledge about my bankroll or financial position. I only gamble when in Vegas and the last time I was in Vegas was March last year. But I will be back in Vegas for 3 weeks this year (at least). So all your talk about overall losers, whiners, gambling addicts is nothing more than you talking to the mirror. I'm no gambling addict, I have a sufficient bankroll for every trip to Vegas I make and after my vacation to Vegas I don't have that gambling itch like you do nor do I have to prove anything about my results. I'm not the one trying to sell a bogus "system". So in short, keep up the good work, you're doing a great job digging that hole .

Oh, and the rest of us are still waiting for your first contribution of value :). One can only wonder why you want the big jackpot thread removed. It's been so nice for you considering all that so called pain you caused. Or could it be the thread has shown your stories don't add up a little too often?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I've admitted to being an addict many times now

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Could it be? Rob actually writing something truthful?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I'm not quite sure how one goes about getting up-to-date win/loss statements in mid-year, which is how the cry's been going out since my large winners began. And I'm still not sure about how to get them for the year, because I've never asked for them since the IRS told me in my first audit that they don't mean anything to them.

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So, you've been gambling in casinos throughout your entire adulthood and you've never seen a win/loss statement or accessed one online? Sure Rob. Just like when you said you were too old and stupid to alter your jackpot pictures, but presented a $100,000 jackpot picture that had been altered, taking out the name of the casino, or actual name of the person who won it. Who knows? I thought Alan was going to post the unaltered picture.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

How about the crybaby Eddie, or the whining Spock or the frustrated Mr. Dan? ... and I include you as one of the jealous ones... Manage the request properly and you might get somewhere.

You're being toyed with by our friend from Holland. Take my advice: they're used to getting their own way around their women and children, and there's so many potheads roaming around aimlessly in Amsterdam that you never quite know what to expect with these guys... like that wussy Shackleford does.

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Must be getting really lonely huh Rob? Attempts to insult me, Spock, Dan, Alan, Vegas_lover, the people of Holland and Mike Shackleford who doesn't even post here. Try to troll people who actually post on the forum Rob, you might get more responses.

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

One can only wonder why you want the big jackpot thread removed. It's been so nice for you considering all that so called pain you caused. Or could it be the thread has shown your stories don't add up a little too often?

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Excellent point Vegas_lover.

Rob I am sure that every casino you play in has a current win/loss for year to date.

You are correct that no one else is being asked to provide the documentation you are being asked to provide. But no one else makes the claims you do.

If you had said all along that you played a lot and bet a lot your big wins would be expected. But no, you had to claim some magic for winning high denomination jackpots with minimal play. Hence the challenge to put up or shut up.

In short you asked for it.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Rob I am sure that every casino you play in has a current win/loss for year to date.

You are correct that no one else is being asked to provide the documentation you are being asked to provide. But no one else makes the claims you do.

If you had said all along that you played a lot and bet a lot your big wins would be expected. But no, you had to claim some magic for winning high denomination jackpots with minimal play. Hence the challenge to put up or shut up.

In short you asked for it.

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Of course they have them for the asking. But the only reason people think they need them is for audits, and I found that not to be true. I had them my first go-around with the IRS and they said they were 100% meaningless, even though they agreed with my numbers. All that matters, again, is what YOU give them from YOUR records. They believe that to be a total and true record, while a casino record can't take into account if you've ever played without it being tracked.

My win claims are this or that blah blah blah, and you want it to be that I've played longer and more hands than I've said waa waa waa. Start a thread that's entitled "Big Jackpot Pictures w/Casino Win/Loss Statements" and show us how it's done, then I'll do what you do. It's that easy. Lead from the front.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Start a thread that's entitled "Big Jackpot Pictures w/Casino Win/Loss Statements" and show us how it's done, then I'll do what you do. It's that easy. Lead from the front.

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Alan,

There you go. Start the new thread with a photo and its accompanying W-2G. Let's see if Robocchio will do as he says. What are the odds of that happening?