I don't believe we have a thread specifically for these, hopefully guys like Monet and Mickey will chime in and keep the discussion moving.
Anyone have thoughts on this one? I think the mini is seeded at $50...
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I don't believe we have a thread specifically for these, hopefully guys like Monet and Mickey will chime in and keep the discussion moving.
Anyone have thoughts on this one? I think the mini is seeded at $50...
I am pretty much done with the forum.
It has become pretty boring.
Recently all the threads are about how horrible members are and something about Hate.
Bill Yung has been pretty active lately when he said he was done being active.
Either way it doesn't really matter.
I shared pretty much all the information that I wanted to share and it was a good bit.
Of course like Max Pen said recently... VP is dead. Time to find other ways.
I don't think all the leaks are plugged up but for the most part it is over.
You might be better off in Vegas getting a Poker Crew together and trying to evade Dandruff.
Busy today, Guy. Will get around to it when I can.
As I already wrote, crackpots can't defend their work, cowards run, and cunts bitch and moan but look the other way when the chips are down.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I was pretty much done here, until MrV brought up my posts on that other forum. Check the logs. Sometimes, the best way to defend yourself is to show the simple idiocy of others, first?
I'll have to look for this game in the casinos. If I find it I'll do some work on it. This game won't be that hard to figure out. The first thing is it says higher bet = higher jackpot chance. That pretty much means it's a max bet play, $3.20. At $474 the bottom meter would be a payoff of 148 for 1.
The first thing I would do is clock the meter speed as it's a strong indicator of whether a game has the potential to go positive or not. After that I want to collect some stats.
I would use the slot card to count the number of spins I make. I want to start on a high number like in the screenshot.
I also want to know something about the payback with all the meters discounted out of it. I would start with a 500 spin sample space. How much money did I put in the machine? How much is left after 500 spins. I would discount out any meter hits. I want to know the average cost per spin to chase the meters.
I would create a spreadsheet in my pocket notebook. I would have columns for each reel and symbol that has to land in the three columns. And I would make a mark in the corresponding reel/symbol column every time one lands in the screen.
Tracking the meter symbols that land on the three reels against the number of spins is going to give a good idea of the odds of hitting the meters. The larger the sample space the more reliable the stats are.
Once I know the odds on hitting a meter I can compare it to the cost per spin to see if it's a viable play.
I'll definitely be looking for this game in the casinos.
Thanks for the response. Are you saying here
The first thing is it says higher bet = higher jackpot chance. That pretty much means it's a max bet play, $3.20
that you're giving up EV by playing the smaller bet? Like you have more than 4x the chance of hitting if you're playing $3.20 a spin instead of $.80?
My take is that betting just 80 cents it will take 4 times as many spins hence much more time consuming. But it would also take tracking the 80 level and comparing the results to the 320 level to insure you are getting 4 times the chance on the 320 level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Incognito
Disappointed that this thread isn't more popular. I've been playing these for the last few months, with a little success, but I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of value not knowing entry points, etc.
Anyone have an opinion on Outback Jack/Cashman Tonight? I believe the minor starts at 10, and I've seen it go above 100 in a few places. The downside is that it's extremely slow/clunky, so it takes awhile to get a lot of coin in (playing the minimum bet, which I assume is correct).
Why would someone post up specifics? Mickey told you how to measure them. Do you really want someone to pre-chew your food for you? Maybe you can find someone else interested and trade info back and forth in private. Not trying to be a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy Incognito
My bad, I thought some actual AP strategy discussion would be a welcome change of pace.
I'll let you get back to trading grade-school insults with the rest of the emotional toddlers. Have fun.
I'd like to find some Jumpin' Jalapenos progressives but so far haven't. So I can't do any work on the game.