I found a river dragons at $489.xx and started playing. The meter was only moving at about 0.2% though!!! I’ve played a lot of these and never seen that. Still I got lucky and made $600 on it.
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I found a river dragons at $489.xx and started playing. The meter was only moving at about 0.2% though!!! I’ve played a lot of these and never seen that. Still I got lucky and made $600 on it.
I've yet to see one of these over $4900 in LV; looks like the tourists play them off early. The closest I've seen was last week at 4868, and a few days later someone had flipped it.
Before I knew they always went to the top I played one at $487x.xx. I somehow won like $3k on the play. I think it helped that i was betting $5 and $9. Variance obviously plays a larger role when betting more. Now that I have more experience with them I shutter at the thought of playing them that low. I actually pass on $4910 a few weeks back because the $500 was near reset and wouldn’t hit before the $5k.
Here's some pics of the play I did a couple days ago.
Is that $4994 it hit at?
Yep. I had $5000 in the machine with $834 in credits left when I hit it so made $829. I figured to get in for about that much when I started the play. The drain was 14.43%. The place is good for comped rooms and freeplay so I took it a little lower than I normally would.
Mickey how often have you seeen them hit before $4990?
I've personally never seen it but I'm networked with a lot of guys so every once in a while we get a report of one hitting early. Every coin in is eligible but it's not equally weighted. It's heavily weighted to the top. You can't count on it hitting early. You have to strategize it like it's going to run to 4995.
Sometimes I'm at the store searching, give up and ask the clerk where is this item? Usually the answer is-Right in front of you! Anyhow.
What can I learn from these two pics? Why did you show both? How does the total come about. How many ways did you win? What is the bet, what is the demon. It's clear as mud but I'm curious. Thanks.
Signed, Lost in Montana.
I miraculously managed to find one of these (485/500) in Las Vegas, at a store that's notoriously vulture-infested, no less. Came off at around 497, which I assume is around the average. I still haven't found a 5000 play (closest was 4898).
Here's my stats for the play:
Start: $4917.56
Finish: $4994.58
Wager: $28,882
Cost: $4166
Drain: 14.43%
Net Win/Loss: +$829 and comp/freeplay
How I determined the total wager:
The meter moves at .002666666%.
Divide 1 by that number and you get 3.75.
That means it takes a $3.75 wager to move the meter 1 cent.
So every $375 in action moves the meter $1.
I moved the meter from 4917.58 to 4994.56.
Thats a difference of $77.02.
77.02 X 375 means a total wager of $28,882
I had $5000 in the machine with $834 in credits left when it hit. That's how I determined that the profit was $829.
For the drain percentage I just divide the $4166 cost by the total wager, $28,882 to get 14.43%.
[QUOTE=mickeycrimm;87506]Here's my stats for the play:
Start: $4917.56
Finish: $4994.58
Wager: $28,882
Cost: $4166
Drain: 14.43%
Net Win/Loss: +$829 and comp/freeplay
How I determined the total wager:
The meter moves at .002666666%.
Divide 1 by that number and you get 3.75.
That means it takes a $3.75 wager to move the meter 1 cent.
So every $375 in action moves the meter $1.
I moved the meter from 4917.58 to 4994.56.
Thats a difference of $77.02.
77.02 X 375 means a total wager of $28,882
Determining the cost is easy. I had $5000 in the machine with $834 left when it hit. So the cost was $4166.
For the drain percentage I just divide the $4166 cost by the total wager, $28,882 to get 14.43%.
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Ouch, that much math at one time makes my brain hurt. Seriously though, interesting stuff. I see it clearer.
I get a sense of danger if the action generated on the bets doesn't materialize as expected. That must be the downfall. On the other hand pure icing on the cake when the action abounds, the ride is free and the payoff "must hit". Nice.
Thanks Mickey.
Got another River Dragon play on graveyard last night. Ran exceptionally well. Got dropped for just 12.47%. Made $1647, plus put $67 on the card and may get comp/FP mailers.
Nice one Mickey! It definitely helps to run well. Is that a place where the hold could have been set to 20-25% or were you pretty confident of the expected drain?