Rob Singer quit this forum after his fake "Vegas trip" debacle, which we busted as being phony -- but why?

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12-05-2022, 01:27 PM
PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

People need to separate out that Rob Singer is a made-up character, no different than a character in a book, movie or TV show. And the purpose of this character was to create attention that Robert Argentino needs and craves.

I seriously suggest we all make a Christmas/New Years vow to stop even talking about this made up character and his claims. It is the best way we can help him with his mental illness. And that is what it is. 20+ years of this crap, caught in his own lies time and time again. Throw in all the nastiness. All for some attention.

Yup, Nailed it.

I think if Druff interviewed Singer, it would go the same way that Druff’s interview went with Mikki. Some of you may be unfamiliar with Mikki (Not Mickey Crimm). Mikki is not a typical scammer as far as we know. He is basically a guy that came out of no where and started gambling millions of dollars. He was first introduced in a Hustler Casino Livestream playing poker, then he claimed he played +EV Baccarat.”Professional Baccarat player” LOL. He donk’s off Millions of dollars gambling. It hasn’t been entirely confirmed where his money comes from, but it is my belief his Grandfather left him a Trust Fund. Soon after his wealthy Grandfather past away is when Mikki came on the gambling scene. Everything lines up.

Druff did an excellent job of interviewing Mikki on his PFA radio show. Druff asked all the right questions and Mikki kept getting more irritated and was very disrespectful to Druff, but Druff kept his cool the entire interview. So what better way to prove your casino winnings than to show your win/loss statement? Druff asked him for these statements, and Mikki said he would provide them. Well surprise-surprise, Mikki ghosted Druff after that.

I think an interview with Singer would be very similar. Druff would ask reasonable questions, then for whatever reason Singer would get upset. Singer can provide a W2G for the VP win. Will he provide it? Of course-not, because it DOESN'T EXIST! BA-BOOOOM!

As I have said before, What Singer wants the most is for people to believe him. He can do something incredibly simple and provide a W2G if a VP win existed, but we all know it won’t happen since there isn’t one to provide.
12-05-2022, 01:39 PM
kewlJ

This is such bull! Mickeycrimm is simply repeating Rob Singer accusations and insinuations (like a good wingman that he now is) that redietz solicits members of the forums. Other than Rob, there is no one on any forum that I have seen redietz on that has ever reported such a thing and surely there would have been. This is just another attempt to slander and discredit someone.

We can have a discussion as to whether sports handicapping is advantage play, but redietz simply is not an advantage player in the way that some of us are with the casino industry and supporting companies like OSN, Biometrics, Griffin, trying to stop us from playing, so he apparently doesn't understand that if it were not for anonymity there would be zero advantage players on these forums.

And it isn't even necessary. It is not hard at all, as a matter of fact, I would say quite easy, for most members with any brains whatsoever to figure out who is legit and knows what they are talking about and who is bullshitting. And frankly, people have figured that out a long time ago in regards to Rob Singer and his claims. It is just there are a few people that think it funny to pretend they haven't and cheer Singer on even though they know it is wrong. Kind of like laughing at a midget. THAT is the space this made-up character of Rob Singer occupies.
12-05-2022, 01:48 PM
MisterV

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

And it isn't even necessary. It is not hard at all, as a matter of fact, I would say quite easy, for most members with any brains whatsoever to figure out who is legit and knows what they are talking about and who is bullshitting. And frankly, people have figured that out a long time ago in regards to Rob Singer and his claims. It is just there are a few people that think it funny to pretend they haven't and cheer Singer on even though they know it is wrong. Kind of like laughing at a midget. THAT is the space this made-up character of Rob Singer occupies.

I interact with Rob at GF not because I believe his claims, but because I don't.

Kinda fun to tug the tiger's tail.

Helps pass the time.
12-05-2022, 01:48 PM
kewlJ

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

As I have said before, What Singer wants the most is for people to believe him.

I used to think this too, but do not anymore. In the past 2-3 days Singer said something to the effect that he likes for people to hate him. That is a person after attention, nothing more. If someone did a poll and people answered honestly (which those days are gone) and 99 out of 100 people said they didn't believe RoB Singer, he would be fine with that. He would just be thrilled with the attention.
12-05-2022, 01:52 PM
PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

As I have said before, What Singer wants the most is for people to believe him.

I used to think this too, but do not anymore. In the past 2-3 days Singer said something to the effect that he likes for people to hate him. That is a person after attention, nothing more. If someone did a poll and people answered honestly (which those days are gone) and 99 out of 100 people said they didn't believe RoB Singer, he would be fine with that. He would just be thrilled with the attention.

If this is true, then Rob Singer is one mentally ill man.
12-05-2022, 02:34 PM
mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by redietz

Todd still does his Poker Fraud Alert show, right?

Here's an obvious idea. What Singer claims to have done gambling-wise as opposed to what some people think he has actually done gambling-wise falls under the heading of fraud. So why not invite Singer onto Poker Fraud Alert and do a live broadcast where he fields adversarial questions?

There's a treasure trove of topics -- hot and cold cycles, telepathy with machines, double up bug execution (where, when, and so on), jackpot hits presented on forums, the 68% ATS for two years in the NFL playing five games a week -- I mean, you could do a month of shows. You couldn't find someone who is seriously on YouTube with the telepathy with machines stuff. You couldn't discover anyone with such a specific claim as 68% ATS in the NFL for two years allegedly posted on LVA forums.

It would be a debunking cornucopia (keeping with the holiday motif).

Of course, Rob likely wouldn't do it, but maybe he'll have some eggnog and agree to it. As the anti-math-ers like to say, anything is possible.

It just occurred to me, make it like a Jerry Springer holiday special. I'm willing to split the cost of a polygraph expert with Todd, if Rob agrees to it. Yes, I know, polygraphs have all kinds of problems, mainly false positives for deceit, but think how great it would be if Rob passed a polygraph for telepathing with machines!

Of course, gotta check his shoes for thumbtacks and all that, but still, what a show it would be.

Would you care to repeat that lie that you've never ever tried to debunk anything involving video poker?

PS: A key part of fraud is financial gain. Can you prove Rob is gaining financially by his claims?

Mickey is using a narrow American legal definition of "fraud." A key part of fraud is gain, period. That gain can be non-material as well as material. Non-material resources tend to be overlooked in the hardcore capitalist countries. For the majority of human existence and across all cultures, non-material resources have been extremely important. Things such as prestige, reputation, placement in hierarchies of expertise that result in access to leadership positions, ability to influence others, all of these result from non-material resources. Rob was using fraud to gain all of these. If I claimed to win 80% of my games ATS, but didn't get any direct financial benefits, I'd be doing the same. Pretty clear cut.

I'm sure if you had examples of me formally debunking video poker, you'd include them here. But you didn't. Regarding video poker, you haven't seen posts from me regarding specifics of anything. That is formal debunking. What I bring up are the contextual questions regarding Rob's video poker claims, questions that any journalist or police investigator would immediately ask. For example, in Rob's initial narrative regarding the double up bug on Alan's site, there were no time/place details. No details of when and where or how often. No specifics. Those are enormous red flags. Is that debunking? No, it's pointing out the obvious problems that anyone who has read a basic police interrogator book or taken Journalism 101 would immediately point out. It was remindful of when Rob claimed he was accosted by someone while having dinner. He didn't report on the person's age or details of the person's appearance, what the person was wearing, and so on. Very strange post from a journalistic perspective, and Rob is a public writer with lots of experience. What I did in these instances was not formal debunking. I was pointing out the obvious.

Formal debunking has to do with the specifics, including the math and history of something, and I know the math and history of sports betting. When I was a member of the SSDPE (Society for the Scientific Documentation of Paranormal Experiments), I was considered a lead scout -- read the claims, eyeball the situation, conduct a first interview. I was not the guy doing any formal debunking, which required both an expert in laboratory protocol and the math of the experiments.

Now Dan, as an investigator of poker fraud, is much better positioned to formally debunk Rob. I suggest you and Rob get together and ask Dan to place him on a Poker Fraud Alert show or two to field adversarial questions. That would be true formal debunking. Specific questions, interviews, public consequences if questions go unanswered.

Mickey, you're all about truth. LOL. Why don't you suggest Rob go on Poker Fraud Alert? See, it even has the word "fraud" in the title.

Damn, you're dense. Rob already said for you to set up the interview on PFA radio. You don't need my okay on any of it. Go for it, ditz, instead of running your mouth. And why do you keep trying to get me to do your bidding for you. I have a life. STFU.

LMAO at you wanting me to put up proof of your trying to debunk Rob's VP claims. You are trying to debunk it in practically every post. And it's video poker claims you are trying to debunk. You're trying to get Rob on PFA radio is just another attempt at debunking Rob's video poker claims. Your telling me to put up proof that you are doing it is either diabolical or you are a complete idiot. Either way, my evidence is your posts. All one has to do is read your posts to see that you have been trying to debunk all of Rob's claims as to video poker.

So all one has to do is go through your archived posts to see that you are trying to debunk video poker claims. One doesn't need a specific post to go to. Practically all of your posts are about trying to debunk Rob's video poker claims.

But I do agree with you and KJ on one thing, getting rid of the trolls. Druff needs to ban both you and KJ for your constant trolling of Rob Singer who doesn't even post here anymore. KJ is king troll and you are right behind him.
12-05-2022, 02:39 PM
mickeycrimm

Stay tuned for KJ and redietz' future posts where they will both say

"I'm for free speech but........."

Fill in the blanks yourself. There is no telling what all these two idiots want banned out of the forums. Fascists.
12-05-2022, 02:40 PM
accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Would you care to repeat that lie that you've never ever tried to debunk anything involving video poker?

PS: A key part of fraud is financial gain. Can you prove Rob is gaining financially by his claims?

Mickey is using a narrow American legal definition of "fraud." A key part of fraud is gain, period. That gain can be non-material as well as material. Non-material resources tend to be overlooked in the hardcore capitalist countries. For the majority of human existence and across all cultures, non-material resources have been extremely important. Things such as prestige, reputation, placement in hierarchies of expertise that result in access to leadership positions, ability to influence others, all of these result from non-material resources. Rob was using fraud to gain all of these. If I claimed to win 80% of my games ATS, but didn't get any direct financial benefits, I'd be doing the same. Pretty clear cut.

I'm sure if you had examples of me formally debunking video poker, you'd include them here. But you didn't. Regarding video poker, you haven't seen posts from me regarding specifics of anything. That is formal debunking. What I bring up are the contextual questions regarding Rob's video poker claims, questions that any journalist or police investigator would immediately ask. For example, in Rob's initial narrative regarding the double up bug on Alan's site, there were no time/place details. No details of when and where or how often. No specifics. Those are enormous red flags. Is that debunking? No, it's pointing out the obvious problems that anyone who has read a basic police interrogator book or taken Journalism 101 would immediately point out. It was remindful of when Rob claimed he was accosted by someone while having dinner. He didn't report on the person's age or details of the person's appearance, what the person was wearing, and so on. Very strange post from a journalistic perspective, and Rob is a public writer with lots of experience. What I did in these instances was not formal debunking. I was pointing out the obvious.

Formal debunking has to do with the specifics, including the math and history of something, and I know the math and history of sports betting. When I was a member of the SSDPE (Society for the Scientific Documentation of Paranormal Experiments), I was considered a lead scout -- read the claims, eyeball the situation, conduct a first interview. I was not the guy doing any formal debunking, which required both an expert in laboratory protocol and the math of the experiments.

Now Dan, as an investigator of poker fraud, is much better positioned to formally debunk Rob. I suggest you and Rob get together and ask Dan to place him on a Poker Fraud Alert show or two to field adversarial questions. That would be true formal debunking. Specific questions, interviews, public consequences if questions go unanswered.

Mickey, you're all about truth. LOL. Why don't you suggest Rob go on Poker Fraud Alert? See, it even has the word "fraud" in the title.

Damn, you're dense. Rob already said for you to set up the interview on PFA radio. You don't need my okay on any of it. Go for it, ditz, instead of running your mouth. And why do you keep trying to get me to do your bidding for you. I have a life. STFU.

LMAO at you wanting me to put up proof of your trying to debunk Rob's VP claims. You are trying to debunk it in practically every post. And it's video poker claims you are trying to debunk. You're trying to get Rob on PFA radio is just another attempt at debunking Rob's video poker claims. Your telling me to put up proof that you are doing it is either diabolical or you are a complete idiot. Either way, my evidence is your posts. All one has to do is read your posts to see that you have been trying to debunk all of Rob's claims as to video poker.

So all one has to do is go through your archived posts to see that you are trying to debunk video poker claims. One doesn't need a specific post to go to. Practically all of your posts are about trying to debunk Rob's video poker claims.

But I do agree with you and KJ on one thing, getting rid of the trolls. Druff needs to ban both you and KJ for your constant trolling of Rob Singer who doesn't even post here anymore. KJ is king troll and you are right behind him.

When I was a member of the SSDVP (Society for the Scientific Documentation of Video Poker), I was considered a lead scout -- read the claims, eyeball the situation, conduct a first interview. I was not the guy doing any formal debunking, which required both an expert in laboratory protocol and the math of the experiments.
12-05-2022, 03:59 PM
kewlJ

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

But I do agree with you and KJ on one thing, getting rid of the trolls. Druff needs to ban both you and KJ for your constant trolling of Rob Singer who doesn't even post here anymore. KJ is king troll and you are right behind him.

Excuse me, but it was neither redietz nor myself that started this thread. It was in fact Dan Druff, so I guess he wanted to discuss this subject.
12-05-2022, 05:20 PM
MisterV

Rob asked me to post this at VCT:

"I WILL PROVIDE MY W2G TO PV WHEN HE GATHERS UP THE COURAGE TO LEAVE HIS LITTLE SAFE SPACE IN CALIFORNIA AND MEET ME AT RW IN LV SO WE CAN VERIFY ITS AUTHENTICITY TOGETHER."
12-05-2022, 05:45 PM
redietz

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Would you care to repeat that lie that you've never ever tried to debunk anything involving video poker?

PS: A key part of fraud is financial gain. Can you prove Rob is gaining financially by his claims?

Mickey is using a narrow American legal definition of "fraud." A key part of fraud is gain, period. That gain can be non-material as well as material. Non-material resources tend to be overlooked in the hardcore capitalist countries. For the majority of human existence and across all cultures, non-material resources have been extremely important. Things such as prestige, reputation, placement in hierarchies of expertise that result in access to leadership positions, ability to influence others, all of these result from non-material resources. Rob was using fraud to gain all of these. If I claimed to win 80% of my games ATS, but didn't get any direct financial benefits, I'd be doing the same. Pretty clear cut.

I'm sure if you had examples of me formally debunking video poker, you'd include them here. But you didn't. Regarding video poker, you haven't seen posts from me regarding specifics of anything. That is formal debunking. What I bring up are the contextual questions regarding Rob's video poker claims, questions that any journalist or police investigator would immediately ask. For example, in Rob's initial narrative regarding the double up bug on Alan's site, there were no time/place details. No details of when and where or how often. No specifics. Those are enormous red flags. Is that debunking? No, it's pointing out the obvious problems that anyone who has read a basic police interrogator book or taken Journalism 101 would immediately point out. It was remindful of when Rob claimed he was accosted by someone while having dinner. He didn't report on the person's age or details of the person's appearance, what the person was wearing, and so on. Very strange post from a journalistic perspective, and Rob is a public writer with lots of experience. What I did in these instances was not formal debunking. I was pointing out the obvious.

Formal debunking has to do with the specifics, including the math and history of something, and I know the math and history of sports betting. When I was a member of the SSDPE (Society for the Scientific Documentation of Paranormal Experiments), I was considered a lead scout -- read the claims, eyeball the situation, conduct a first interview. I was not the guy doing any formal debunking, which required both an expert in laboratory protocol and the math of the experiments.

Now Dan, as an investigator of poker fraud, is much better positioned to formally debunk Rob. I suggest you and Rob get together and ask Dan to place him on a Poker Fraud Alert show or two to field adversarial questions. That would be true formal debunking. Specific questions, interviews, public consequences if questions go unanswered.

Mickey, you're all about truth. LOL. Why don't you suggest Rob go on Poker Fraud Alert? See, it even has the word "fraud" in the title.

Damn, you're dense. Rob already said for you to set up the interview on PFA radio. You don't need my okay on any of it. Go for it, ditz, instead of running your mouth. And why do you keep trying to get me to do your bidding for you. I have a life. STFU.

LMAO at you wanting me to put up proof of your trying to debunk Rob's VP claims. You are trying to debunk it in practically every post. And it's video poker claims you are trying to debunk. You're trying to get Rob on PFA radio is just another attempt at debunking Rob's video poker claims. Your telling me to put up proof that you are doing it is either diabolical or you are a complete idiot. Either way, my evidence is your posts. All one has to do is read your posts to see that you have been trying to debunk all of Rob's claims as to video poker.

So all one has to do is go through your archived posts to see that you are trying to debunk video poker claims. One doesn't need a specific post to go to. Practically all of your posts are about trying to debunk Rob's video poker claims.

But I do agree with you and KJ on one thing, getting rid of the trolls. Druff needs to ban both you and KJ for your constant trolling of Rob Singer who doesn't even post here anymore. KJ is king troll and you are right behind him.

Rob can set it up himself. He's not banned here. He's not paying me a salary, last I checked.

Mickey "The Truth" Crimm. What a joke.
12-05-2022, 05:51 PM
kewlJ

I have a request of Mickeycrimm. In the past few months over at GF, I have seen mickey doubled down in support of Rob regarding things I know mickey doesn't believe. So in the last few weeks, Rob has stated at least a dozen times that Dan Druff, chickened out of their meet up and or was "afraid" to meet with Rob at GVR last June. Strangely mickey has stayed silent on Rob's revisionist version of events on June 16. So I am asking mickey right here on Dan's forum to either say he supports Rob's statements or that Rob is lying in his version of events. I do hope mickey acknowledging that Rob is not being truthful isn't a violation of mickey's surrender agreement to Rob several years ago. :rolleyes:

Just in case mickey needs a refresher, I am linking to page #94 of the thread from June 16, post #1866, where in a post time stamped 12:17 pm in the last line of the post, Dan Druff wrote: "I won't be available to talk or text prior to 7pm today. However, feel free to text me at the above number, and I will get back to you around 7, if you're serious about this".

PLEASE NOTE: The time stamps of these posts are an hour off real time as we will learn later.

What followed was at 1:03pm, Rob posted that he hadn't heard from Dan Druff, as if it wasn't clear to him that Dan Druff had said he wouldn't be unavailable to talk or text before 7pm?

18 minutes later at 1:21 Rob posted he was heading out to an early dinner and that was the last we heard from Rob that day.

We next heard from Dan Druff at 6:24 and 6:29 pm saying he has texted Rob 25 minutes prior with no response. So these posts were made at 7:24 & & 7:29 respectively (an hour off the time stamp).

And finally in a post time stamped 7:35pm (actual time 8:35pm), Dan Druff wrote:

"Rob is ignoring me.

It's now 8:30. Suffice to say this isn't happening. Believe it or not, I think Rob might really be at GVR tonight, but had some flimsy plan to "prove" his win to me, which he then realized wouldn't work, so now he's acting insulted about my questioning his location and ghosting me.

As usual, there's a lot of bluster and aggressive claims that he will prove everything, followed by it all petering out.

I can't believe I stayed around a bit longer for this. Dumb"

So again, mickey, I am requesting you go on record, right here on Dan Druff's forum either supporting Rob's claim that Druff chickened out or acknowledge that Rob lied and revised the who account, just as he has done so many times before. Awaiting your response, Mickeycrimm.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...trength/page94
12-05-2022, 05:52 PM
redietz

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Rob asked me to post this at VCT:

"I WILL PROVIDE MY W2G TO PV WHEN HE GATHERS UP THE COURAGE TO LEAVE HIS LITTLE SAFE SPACE IN CALIFORNIA AND MEET ME AT RW IN LV SO WE CAN VERIFY ITS AUTHENTICITY TOGETHER."

And I'll repeat this caveat one more time, for those unfamiliar with the world of gambling. W2Gs are evidence that someone has taken tax responsibility for having done something. They are not evidence that the person actually did the something.

Much more prevalent in the 90's but Rob and I were creatures of the 90's in Las Vegas.

PV, be aware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBwoinDS18
12-05-2022, 06:06 PM
MisterV

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Originally Posted by redietz

W2Gs are evidence that someone has taken tax responsibility for having done something. They are not evidence that the person actually did the something.

I'm not sure I understand.

A W2-G will list the date, the casino, the game number, the amount...what other proof is needed, IF the document is genuine?

Are you thinking maybe his wife won instead of him?
12-05-2022, 06:37 PM
mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by redietz

W2Gs are evidence that someone has taken tax responsibility for having done something. They are not evidence that the person actually did the something.

I'm not sure I understand.

A W2-G will list the date, the casino, the game number, the amount...what other proof is needed, IF the document is genuine?

Are you thinking maybe his wife won instead of him?

In Nevada there were always guys around that would sign for W2-G jackpots for 10% of the money. These guys didn't own anything and hadn't filed taxes in years nor intended to ever file in the future. They literally didn't give a rats ass. Rob doesn't fit that profile.

What ditz is telling you is that no amount of evidence is sufficient. He's a troll.
12-05-2022, 08:53 PM
monet

I didn't read much of the last two pages, a little bit of the mickeycrimm replies but for a QueerJ that isn't supposed to be posting here, or on any other gambling forum, she sure does vomit a bunch of words over here and at GF.
12-05-2022, 09:30 PM
kewlJ

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Originally Posted by monet

but for a QueerJ that isn't supposed to be posting here, or on any other gambling forum, she sure does vomit a bunch of words over here and at GF.

What makes you so sure that who you think is posting, is actually posting?
12-05-2022, 10:06 PM
PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Rob asked me to post this at VCT:

"I WILL PROVIDE MY W2G TO PV WHEN HE GATHERS UP THE COURAGE TO LEAVE HIS LITTLE SAFE SPACE IN CALIFORNIA AND MEET ME AT RW IN LV SO WE CAN VERIFY ITS AUTHENTICITY TOGETHER."

Due to Singers reputation of “No-shows, ghosting, last minute excuses” he will need to put a deposit with a trusted middleman (And I will do the same). It doesn’t have to be much $1,500 or so. That deposit will set a date and time. We can set a 1 hour window since sometimes shit happens. If someone doesn’t show, that deposit will go to the other party. After watching what Singer did with Max Pen and Druff, Im not going to have any of that shit, and if he does, at least I pocket $1,500.

Very reasonable.

I’m not sure what he means by “Little Safe Space in California”. He is watching to much TV.

I’m not very concerned with Singer trying to pass off a fake W2G, as I know ways to verify there authenticity.
12-05-2022, 10:15 PM
PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by redietz

W2Gs are evidence that someone has taken tax responsibility for having done something. They are not evidence that the person actually did the something.

I'm not sure I understand.

A W2-G will list the date, the casino, the game number, the amount...what other proof is needed, IF the document is genuine?

Are you thinking maybe his wife won instead of him?

In Nevada there were always guys around that would sign for W2-G jackpots for 10% of the money. These guys didn't own anything and hadn't filed taxes in years nor intended to ever file in the future. They literally didn't give a rats ass. Rob doesn't fit that profile.

What ditz is telling you is that no amount of evidence is sufficient. He's a troll.

Yes, there are guys that will sign for the tax liability. The odds of Singer being in the presence of someone hitting a 1.5 million VP hit is very slim. I will even be ok with the hit being in the presence of Singer, that’s how confident I am that it wasn’t him , nor was he anywhere near a REAL 1.5 Million VP hit.

But as we all know for 1.5 Million, the casino will check the cameras and see who pressed the button. Shoot, some small hole in the wall places will check the camera for anything $1200 and over.
12-06-2022, 12:07 AM
Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Rob asked me to post this at VCT:

"I WILL PROVIDE MY W2G TO PV WHEN HE GATHERS UP THE COURAGE TO LEAVE HIS LITTLE SAFE SPACE IN CALIFORNIA AND MEET ME AT RW IN LV SO WE CAN VERIFY ITS AUTHENTICITY TOGETHER."

Due to Singers reputation of “No-shows, ghosting, last minute excuses” he will need to put a deposit with a trusted middleman (And I will do the same). It doesn’t have to be much $1,500 or so. That deposit will set a date and time. We can set a 1 hour window since sometimes shit happens. If someone doesn’t show, that deposit will go to the other party. After watching what Singer did with Max Pen and Druff, Im not going to have any of that shit, and if he does, at least I pocket $1,500.

Very reasonable.

I’m not sure what he means by “Little Safe Space in California”. He is watching to much TV.

I’m not very concerned with Singer trying to pass off a fake W2G, as I know ways to verify there authenticity.

I'll post one time on this since it's not proper for MrV to be a middle man.

PV, you probably already know this but go back and read Druff's opening post in his thread. In it he says HE proposed a meeting with ME that kicked things off. Yet if you go back to my jackpot thread you'd see clearly it was ME who proposed it to HIM.

Then there's the part where he claims there was a VPN or something and that I was "busted" for not really being in LV. Another outright lie. I texted him and copied mickey (so he'd know he hadn't been supportive of a liar) a copy of my room TV inside GVR that showed the date, time, and Welcome Robert Argentino.

Further, whatever he told you people was't complete. He kept out my text to him shortly after 1pm where I said because I was with my family I needed to get a confirmation from him by 5pm, or else I'd be going out with them at night instead. At 7 he texted me that he fell asleep, obviously in the middle of us trying to get everything nailed down.

I suspect he was in shock that I really was in town and trying to get this done. I'm the one who proposed it, after all. So he panicked, and did the only thing he could do--ignore me and then contact me when he knew I was unable to go. At this point, he could pound his chest right here.

So after his chickenshit excuse and his starting this thread full of butt-covering lies, you come along, make a similar proposal only with wizard as the verifier, and you're too afraid to go over to GF to discuss it with me. That smacks of you hoping I won't respond. It didn't work.

As for your stupid condition of putting up a no-show fee?....you used the rationale of me not showing up for max (I absolutely did, only I did leave early because I verified his bullshit story about the jackpot being hit at Caesars (it wasn't) instead of my hitting it, and I had my answer). I even provided the names of the managers etc. that I talked to there. I didn't need to make the trip, but I needed to show everyone what a jealous liar max was. I've also proven that I was at GVR when I offered to settle the doubt once and for all with Dan, as soon as I read he was still in town.

So no, there won't be any need for no-show money. If you don't show then I don't need your money.

If you had read my post about this on GF you'd have seen where I said for purposes of keeping this meet on equal footing, that you text me a redacted copy of your DL so we know each other's real names. You have mine and I'll have yours. Reasonable and fair, right?

This was a one time post. If you'd like to finish this off you'll need to address it on GF.

I'm glad everyone still here sees kew as the asshole liar he's always been.

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