casino employees gambling at the casino they are employed at?

Question: what is the law regarding casino employees gambling at the casino they work at?

This week as I approached my partner playing at a VP machine, I noticed one of the pit people from that very casino playing right next to him. Ms 'Pit person' (who I deal with frequently) was obviously off duty as she had a drink in her hand. Upon noticing her, I did not acknowledge my partner, but just walked by, as I wanted to avoid an unnecessary association.

So, I am just curious as to the law? I was under the impression that employees could not gamble at their own property. Maybe that has been changed. Anyone know?

At the Riverside in Laughlin employee's had to go outside to smoke. That is, unless they were playing a machine. Don Laughlin required them to be playing a machine to smoke inside. In the summer it's like 125 degree's outside.

I think its a stupid rule/law. If they wish to play where they work, fine by me.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

I think its a stupid rule/law. If they wish to play where they work, fine by me.

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I really don't have a problem with it either. It just surprised me, as I thought there was a law they had to gamble elsewhere. :rolleyes:

But actually, in thinking about it, in regards to table games (which this wasn't), it raises the possibility of collusion between the dealer and fellow worker/dealer/pit. I mean a casino should want to eliminate any possibilty or appearance of something like that.

I don't think there is a law against it. I think it is a management decision.

Poker dealers can shill their own games. Jackie Gaughan used to play in his own poker games.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I don't think there is a law against it. I think it is a management decision.

Poker dealers can shill their own games. Jackie Gaughan used to play in his own poker games.

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Mickey, bullet point 3 in the following linked web page seems to substantiate your statement (no restriction is listed regarding Max Casino employees):https://everythingcarson.com/maxcasi...dnight-madness

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I don't think there is a law against it. I think it is a management decision.

Poker dealers can shill their own games. Jackie Gaughan used to play in his own poker games.

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My understanding is that's it's a management decision, and my perception is that Wynn and MGM have in the past frowned on it, while locals casinos don't care so much.

From where I've worked and the dealers I've talked to that have dealt at other casinos, I've only ever heard of, "You can play machines while off the clock, you can't play table games (on or off the clock)." Usually they also have a time period after quitting where you can't play table games there for 3-12 months. But that's for dealers. Other positions have different rules of what they can/can't play (like pit bosses and higher can't do any kind of gambling, while non-gaming employees can play table games).

The law on this varies by state. In Nevada, no problem.

On the other extreme is Pennsylvania. Not only is a casino employee in PA not allowed to gamble at his/her establishment, he/she is also not allowed to gamble at any other casino in the state.

I believe most states fall in between those two extremes.

I will say, Mickey, no casino owner I’ve ever come across gets as much of his employees’ wages back as Don Laughlin does.

The guy has a special line for high tier players card members... in the Employee Dining Room!

Shit you not.

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Originally Posted by acescracked_1210

I will say, Mickey, no casino owner I’ve ever come across gets as much of his employees’ wages back as Don Laughlin does. The guy has a special line for high tier players card members... in the Employee Dining Room! Shit you not.

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That's funny as hell. That's the Don Laughlin I knew. You see black & white's sitting at machines everywhere in the joint. On Sunday's the bartenders and cocktails waitresses are all scrambling to get their parlay cards in. Don owned an old daily/weekly/monthly hotel across the river. I think it was called Desert something. Some of his employee's stayed so broke they jungled up three or four to a room.

Don even had his own resident credit hustler, Revvie. Revvie was there 11 years. He lived in his van in the parking lot. I would let Revvie take showers in my room when I was in the hotel. He and Don were "friends." Don even took him up in the helicopter a time or two. I walked with Revvie one time while he was credit hustling. He was saying hello to the security guards, calling them by first names, all the while tagging abandoned credits on machines right in front of them. The guards were all like "Hey, Revvie, how ya doin'?"

Like clockwork Revvie took whatever money he made and blew it in the North Tower Bar playing sucker video poker. And you can bet your ass Don knew exactly what Revvie was doing with the money. That's why he let him do it. Meanwhile anyone else trying to hustle credits got pushed out the door.

It's good to know that you hang around with suckers.

There was a real nice friendly dealer a few years ago at the Nugget in Sparks(hold-em)....he would engage in conversation, friendly banter, jokes. And get friendly with players at the table. And during some hands as players would muck the cards he would peek. Then one day he was playing at my table. The first time I saw him play at the casino where he worked. And I realized that by peeking at cards while he worked, he was gaining an advantage.
Personally because of that ability to openly or secretly sneak a peek, I dont think poker room dealers should be allowed to play in their own casino where there is an increased chance of them playing against someone who they dealed against.