Originally Posted by
Mission146
Response to Smurgerburger, in order:
1.) The progressive game and the non-progressive game can exist on the same physical device. I have personally seen this. The progressive feature can be turned on or off as they wish. In some states, any progressive contributions would have to be moved to a different machine, (as was done in this case, though I don't know if it was required in this particular state) but the machines were definitely converted from progressives to flat tops.
---Also, on the dollar QHP, used to be everything was a progressive, then nothing was, then only QHP symbols were, then QHP symbols were not but 9QH symbols were and nothing else. You can do all kinds of stuff.
2.) It's possible that the higher return percentages would include meter rates as well as free game changes, individually or simultaneously, I never considered that until today.
3.) Why are they too high for the base game at reset? I don't know if you are aware of this, but that particular unit is not strictly a penny machine. I have seen it as high as nickels and can imagine it being capable of quarters play...though I have not seen it operate on quarters.
I also disagree that the RTP would be greater than 100%. I do not believe that the meter increase totals a bit over 4%.
4.) "Always," is a dangerous word, especially in gambling. And, again, the same physical units are capable of being progressives or not being progressives. Furthermore, one example of a condition in which the minimum payout requirement is greater than what you are saying is that of Class III machines in Tribal Casinos in New York State in which the minimum permitted return is 92%. Your 83% machine could not even exist unless the meter move was crazy high.
5.) Maybe, but I was extremely specific when I asked the question.