Short term vs long term and quitting while ahead (continued)

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

Dumbass hobo....

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Says the dumass poser pro that likes 9 inch cock up your ass. Then it's back to stepandfetchit for the two bit slot team.

You easily prove how little you know about gambling. Because you never put up any real gambling theory here. You just talk shit like "Nothing going on in the casinos I don't know about." Bullshit. You're a poser pro. You don't know jackshit.

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Some of us aren't as vocal about all the plays. Max is one of them.

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maxpuke can't be vocal because he doesn't know any plays. He's a poser pro stepandfetchit. Dumber than a rock. You don't have to expose plays to present advantage play theory. He can't do it. He's stupid. And he likes his husband's cock up his ass.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

Gambler A puts $1,000 in a 12 month FDIC insured CD with a 5% APR.

Gambler B has a $1,000 bankroll. Twice a week he visits his local casino where they offer a fair coin flip bet. Since it’s 50/50 they charge a 5% commission on all bets.

Gambler B has a set win goal and a set stop loss and will always quit for the day when either one is reached.

Gambler B also happens to be the luckiest person to have ever existed on earth.

At the end of 12 months who will have more money?

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This is becoming a comedy.

Let's call a spade a spade.

Not one of you will explain why it's okay to challenge the claims of Mdawg and Singer, but you wont question claims like winning $25-million or getting $125 x 7 in free play with just $25 of coin in.

I'm done.

If you want to claim victory, go ahead. Because you'll never give a straight answer.

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I don’t believe that anyone could get $125 x 7 freeplay with just $25 coin in.


I also wouldn’t believe that someone won $25 Millon dollars with out knowing the details.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Kewlj I have standards for what I believe in.

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Does believe in: stop win systems (it's in his sig).

Does not believe in: the ability to make money from casino mailers.



Alan I'm going to put you on ignore now as per your previous recommendation because you bring out too much of my petty side.

My parting advice to you is to understand that nobody can be knowledgeable in all areas, and AP is one area where you are and always will be completely ignorant because your nature doesn't allow you to understand it.

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Of course I believe you can make money from casino maikers. What I question is how much did those mailers cost you to get? How much did you win?

Until I pressed, DO did not admit he spent $60,000 to get those mailers. No one else asked that. Why didn't you?

Go ahead... ignore that.

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Alan, remember what I told you about playing a 98% machine to create freeplay mailers. Then when the freeplay starts rolling in you change tactics and just run off the freeplay.

And for a 2 to 4K upfront loss you got weekly freeplay of 1 to 2K for 6 months. That's anywhere from 24K to 48K.

Would you pay 4K for 48K in freeplay.

For DO's 60K upfront loss, if he knew what he was doing the freeplay had to have run up into the hundreds of thousands.

Do I need proof of his claims? NO!!! I know those kind of plays reap rewards.

It's YOU that demands evidence. For some dummass reason you think people are going to expose themselves just to prove to an ignoramus like that it works.

Nobody gives a fuck what you believe or don't believe. Get that thru your thick skull.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

Good to see 1 of a kind forum legend Alan back full force. Things are not quite the same around here without his LOLS ! Now if we can only be so lucky, as to get his "paralegal" Mr Andrew back. That would be something else !

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Another diversion from the question. This is making me laugh.

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That’s fair play because YOU and your life adventures have given many of us plenty of laughs.

Hell, I even laughed when your son was asking if anyone has observed you gambling in a casino with money he claimed you owed him.

Let’s face it there has been a lot of crazy shit on these forums over the years, but I think you are the only one that had a family member come on and air family issues. And yea, it was funny as hell.

The stuff with you claiming to be someone else, again Gambling Forum Hall of Fame level laughter.

18 Yo’s? Obviously HoF material, maybe GOAT level.

The wedding photo, definitely HoF laughter.

You coming back here to be a human punching bag, the gift that keeps giving and for that I Thank You!

Unfortunately I don’t get out to Red Rock much, but the guys who do and see you at a Craps table always gives them a chuckle.

So you go ahead and have a good laugh. You certainly deserve to get back just a little of what you and your adventures in life have given all of us.

Alan, look in the mirror and say hi to AndrewG for me.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

Does believe in: stop win systems (it's in his sig).

Does not believe in: the ability to make money from casino mailers.



Alan I'm going to put you on ignore now as per your previous recommendation because you bring out too much of my petty side.

My parting advice to you is to understand that nobody can be knowledgeable in all areas, and AP is one area where you are and always will be completely ignorant because your nature doesn't allow you to understand it.

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Of course I believe you can make money from casino maikers. What I question is how much did those mailers cost you to get? How much did you win?

Until I pressed, DO did not admit he spent $60,000 to get those mailers. No one else asked that. Why didn't you?

Go ahead... ignore that.

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Alan, remember what I told you about playing a 98% machine to create freeplay mailers. Then when the freeplay starts rolling in you change tactics and just run off the freeplay.

And for a 2 to 4K upfront loss you got weekly freeplay of 1 to 2K for 6 months. That's anywhere from 24K to 48K.

Would you pay 4K for 48K in freeplay?

For DO's 60K upfront loss, if he knew what he was doing the freeplay had to have run up into the hundreds of thousands.

Do I need proof of his claims? NO!!! I know those kind of plays reap rewards.

It's YOU that demands evidence. For some dummass reason you think people are going to expose themselves just to prove to an ignoramus like that it works. Go fuck yourself, idiot.

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That's great Mickey except I only know of casinos that revise freeplay every two months or every month.

If there was a casino that only adjusted free play once every six months well then congratulations to the players who caught that deal.

Now... Mickey... you've defended Rob to a certain degree with the DUB. In fact you are his biggest supporter with the DUB.

Suppose you tell us if you think the other "claimants" should be scrutinized? So far you only endorsed one play... which isnt about the $25million claim or the 7 X $125 free play with only $25 coin in.

Would you care to address those two claims?

Box I'm no human punching bag this time. I'm punching holes right through your cellophane body armor.

You see... the majority of the world doesnt believe in the supernatural that's being vomited here.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

Dumbass hobo....

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Says the dumass poser pro that likes 9 inch cock up your ass. Then it's back to stepandfetchit for the two bit slot team.

You easily prove how little you know about gambling. Because you never put up any real gambling theory here. You just talk shit like "Nothing going on in the casinos I don't know about." Bullshit. You're a poser pro. You don't know jackshit.

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I have no need to share anything in a public space. Whether I am taking advantage of it or not. That by itself makes me a professional. In this business loose lips sink ships.

I take comfort in the fact that I am already playing the future. While you and your like are wrecking the present and living in the past. Maybe one day you will catch up.

But I doubt it. It's a hard knock life for a two bit hustler such as yourself. But hey, you are miles ahead of your past tramp life.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Alan, look in the mirror and say hi to AndrewG for me.

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To be fair to Alan,

When AndrewG first showed up to this forum I don’t think that any of us understood that when your attorney’s assistant randomly shows up to an obscure internet forum that you used to heavily participate in, that they will sound exactly like you.

I did some checking and found out that actually it is a little know fact that anytime you have an Attorney their assistant will randomly pop up on obscure internet forums you used to participate in and will indeed sound exactly like you!

And by the way Boz, about a week ago I told everything about my son's problems and how he blamed me and I took the blame as a father would.

But it's all passed for him thanks in part to a huge free SBA Covid loan, a Chapter 7, and a deal with the IRS. He drives two Teslas now, kept his house, has a new business. And I forgave him for blaming his problems on me. That's what fathers do who love their kids.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Says Mr Not So Bright himself.....lol

Dumbass hobo....

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Says the dumass poser pro that likes 9 inch cock up your ass. Then it's back to stepandfetchit for the two bit slot team.

You easily prove how little you know about gambling. Because you never put up any real gambling theory here. You just talk shit like "Nothing going on in the casinos I don't know about." Bullshit. You're a poser pro. You don't know jackshit.

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I have no need to share anything in a public space. Whether I am taking advantage of it or not. That by itself makes me a professional. In this business loose lips sink ships.

I take comfort in the fact that I am already playing the future. While you and your like are wrecking the present and living in the past. Maybe one day you will catch up.

But I doubt it. It's a hard knock life for a two bit hustler such as yourself. But hey, you are miles ahead of your past tramp life.

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Nobody believes your crock of shit, Mr. stepandfetchit. I'm miles ahead of your poser pro ass. There's nobody in the machine pro world that has any top secret shit that isn't figured out by others.

You stupid motherfucker. Whatever your crew is doing isn't legal. And that means it's not gambling. You can't beat gambling. But you know how to cheat them out of the money. And you ain't the brains of the operation. You're the stepandfetchit.

Scumbags like you are easy to figure out.

When casinos discover that math doesn’t matter and the long term doesn’t matter they are going to have to change their business model and just close for the day when they up by a certain amount or down by a certain amount.

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

When casinos discover that math doesn’t matter and the long term doesn’t matter they are going to have to change their business model and just close for the day when they up by a certain amount or down by a certain amount.

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They'll put stop losses and stop wins into place, closing their doors for the day when one of the chosen parameters has been reached.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

When casinos discover that math doesn’t matter and the long term doesn’t matter they are going to have to change their business model and just close for the day when they up by a certain amount or down by a certain amount.

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They'll put stop losses and stop wins into place, closing their doors for the day when one of the chosen parameters has been reached.

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The only counter to that would be playing very fast and trying to hit your stop win number or stop loss number before the casino does.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Suppose you tell us if you think the other "claimants" should be scrutinized?

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Alan, I know this was addressed to Mickeycrimm, but could you share your definition of scrutinize?

You have the right to inquire, challenge, ask any questions of any "claimant" you don't find credible or would like more information to make that determination. And at the end of asking and inquiring, if the answers haven't satisfied you, you have the right to say something along the lines of you don't believe him. (be careful of your wording as I used fiction at the other forum and was suspended for it). :rolleyes:

What you don't have the right to do is demand proof, as if someone is on trial. No one owes you that.

Yeah but if he goes to the casino, wins a few hundred bucks, and then quits for the day whats wrong with that though?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Of course I believe you can make money from casino maikers. What I question is how much did those mailers cost you to get? How much did you win?

Until I pressed, DO did not admit he spent $60,000 to get those mailers. No one else asked that. Why didn't you?

Go ahead... ignore that.

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Alan, remember what I told you about playing a 98% machine to create freeplay mailers. Then when the freeplay starts rolling in you change tactics and just run off the freeplay.

And for a 2 to 4K upfront loss you got weekly freeplay of 1 to 2K for 6 months. That's anywhere from 24K to 48K.

Would you pay 4K for 48K in freeplay?

For DO's 60K upfront loss, if he knew what he was doing the freeplay had to have run up into the hundreds of thousands.

Do I need proof of his claims? NO!!! I know those kind of plays reap rewards.

It's YOU that demands evidence. For some dummass reason you think people are going to expose themselves just to prove to an ignoramus like that it works. Go fuck yourself, idiot.

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That's great Mickey except I only know of casinos that revise freeplay every two months or every month.

If there was a casino that only adjusted free play once every six months well then congratulations to the players who caught that deal.

Now... Mickey... you've defended Rob to a certain degree with the DUB. In fact you are his biggest supporter with the DUB.

Suppose you tell us if you think the other "claimants" should be scrutinized? So far you only endorsed one play... which isnt about the $25million claim or the 7 X $125 free play with only $25 coin in.

Would you care to address those two claims?

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Who made the claims?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Of course I believe you can make money from casino maikers. What I question is how much did those mailers cost you to get? How much did you win?

Until I pressed, DO did not admit he spent $60,000 to get those mailers. No one else asked that. Why didn't you?

Go ahead... ignore that.

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Alan, remember what I told you about playing a 98% machine to create freeplay mailers. Then when the freeplay starts rolling in you change tactics and just run off the freeplay.

And for a 2 to 4K upfront loss you got weekly freeplay of 1 to 2K for 6 months. That's anywhere from 24K to 48K.

Would you pay 4K for 48K in freeplay?

For DO's 60K upfront loss, if he knew what he was doing the freeplay had to have run up into the hundreds of thousands.

Do I need proof of his claims? NO!!! I know those kind of plays reap rewards.

It's YOU that demands evidence. For some dummass reason you think people are going to expose themselves just to prove to an ignoramus like that it works. Go fuck yourself, idiot.

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That's great Mickey except I only know of casinos that revise freeplay every two months or every month.

If there was a casino that only adjusted free play once every six months well then congratulations to the players who caught that deal.

Now... Mickey... you've defended Rob to a certain degree with the DUB. In fact you are his biggest supporter with the DUB.

Suppose you tell us if you think the other "claimants" should be scrutinized? So far you only endorsed one play... which isnt about the $25million claim or the 7 X $125 free play with only $25 coin in.

Would you care to address those two claims?

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Alan, the Vegas casinos are not the only casinos in the world. Theres not that many in Vegas compared to the rest of the country. Did you know that just Oklahoma has 148 casinos? And they have the two largest casinos in the world, Winstar and Choctaw Durant.

Some casinos have been known to go up to a year or longer on weekly freeplay from putting in just one session.

I just found the DO claim of $175 a week at a cost of $25. You represented it as $25 coin in. There is a big difference. So you are the stupid one.

It is certainly theoretically possible to get $175 a week in freeplay by running a theoretical loss of $25. I just showed you how a theoretical loss of 4K used to get 48K in freeplay. The 48K freeplay is 12X the 4K. The $175 is just 7X the $25 cost.

Alan, I'm not giving all these answers for your benefit. You're to stupid to comprehend it. It's for the benefit of the readers.

As for the 25 million dollar claim I don't know anything about it. Who made the claim? What area of the country? If it was DO in New York I think it's possible.

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

Yeah but if he goes to the casino, wins a few hundred bucks, and then quits for the day whats wrong with that though?

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However if he goes to the casino every day, or several times a week, or however often he goes, and employs these stop limits, in each direction, winning and losing, don't tell us that is a winning strategy that overcomes anything. It isn't.

VCT: AP is just placing bets when the odds are in your favor and generally your bankroll will grow over time.

Alan: CARE TODAY ONLY!!!!!!!! LONGTERM NO CARE!!!!!!!! MATH NO CARE!!!!!!! $25 MILLION WIN NO PROOF!!!!!!!! $25 COIN IN FREEPLAY NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!! GO CASINO WiN LEAVE!!!!!!! GO CASINO STAY ONLY ADDICT!!!!!!!!!! YARRRRGLLE YARRRGLLE YARRRGLLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!