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I listened to the podcast in full. To start things off, the people saying this guy murdered his wife are absurd. Based on Joe's questions and general demeanor, I doubt very much he will have this guy on again. He didn't really answer Joe's questions ever during this podcast. He also said things that were simply not true ("you'll never use Google again Joe after I show you this"; Joe: "Really ?"). For example he said that "Don't be evil" no longer appears in the Google slogan, but Joe and Jamie disproved that on the podcast since they found the longer slogan which still contains it. He mostly stated obvious things - it's obvious that Google,Twitter, and Facebook control the media narrative and have deep invasion of privacy in the Western world. The dude says he is a tech guy and that Windows 10 is bad but he uses Windows 8.1 - Joe asked him if uses Linux or Unix and he skirted the question. He also deflected when Joe asked him if he could see his phone since Epstein said that he had a phone with all sorts of privacy safeguards. The entire eastern bloc (Russia,Poland,Hungary,Czech Republic, etc.) would not feel a thing if Google,Facebook, and Twitter disappeared - they have Yandex and their own versions of Facebook and Twitter. I think they also have their own browsers, but I'm not sure. I do think that the Brave browser Epstein mentions is pretty good. Rogan is a businessman so he humors this guest, but basically this guy has a cushy fluff job at Harvard conducting fluff research in the fluff profession of Psychology, which is a great gig if you can get it. Kind of like those lucky enough to secure fully tenured sociology professorships - you're set for life;absolute gravy with fantastic medical,dental and retirement (although who would retire when your work is just fluff). It's obvious statement after obvious statement. He talks about the military industrial complex as if it is breaking news. But of course there is no doubt that these big tech companies are the information gatekeepers of the western countries. Anyway Rogan needs filler guests when he needs to get a podcast out and the big guns like Malone,Musk,Mike Tyson or Dave Chappelle are not available. Epstein said things that were simply untrue such as that Google can shut down the entire internet (and the don't be evil thing I wrote about above). But they can't do that. A person can use a different browser and type the underlying IP address rather than the text URL to get to a site. A tech savvy person would just run Linux with some lightweight linux browser and thy're off to the races for example. And the Eastern Bloc countries along with China would not be affected at all. They would have a good laugh. Then you have people who live on fishing boats who don't know what the internet is and don't have cell phones or anything. Same with people that live in the remote Amazon forest or remote small villages in South America and other parts of the world. A Tibetan monk's life is just meditation,farming,monastery upkeep and martial arts. They could give a fuck about the internet or any sort of tech. There's that island off the coast of India where the people were throwing spears at an Indian Helicopter that tried to land their to check on the populace so the Indian government just decided to leave them alone and made a law against anyone going to the island. So this podcast is just pandering to the Western Middle Class. Joe should get a top Russian hacker on the show to give us the real skinny on privacy concerns, not some Harvard fluff professor.
Thanks for taking the time to actually waste 3 hours to listen to this and break it down.
I appreciate it and you did it in rapid fashion.
I agree with the guy about the children though and how tech is manipulating them.
Even if everything he said was known and basic he still brought many of the problems to my attention and that gets me to digging which is never a bad thing.
I feel like the guy was trying to banter and make jokes that just fell flat.
Even if he is a Fluff Professor who may or may not be homosexual he is doing experiments that are giving real life data isn't he?
I mean nobody else is doing these types of experiments are they?
And don't those experiments show that people can be easily influenced in one direction or the other?
Most people are sheep so I tend to believe him when he says he can get 70% to 90% results in changing minds.
For me personally I don't worry about google or any other entity controlling me.
I'm too much of an independent thinker and I stay outside of society.
I'm never registering and I'm never going to vote.
Never have and never will.
I know what I want to buy so ads never control me.
I hate apps and I don't use my cell phone very much.
More of an emergency thing.
I hate the idea that the damn thing is recording me at all times though.
My cell phone isn't in my name and the person who owns/pays for it lives across town.
So there is that.
I try to be as much of a ghost on paper as possible.
Anyways, I found the conversation entertaining enough and it brought up some good topics that are worth researching.
I can look past the guy being Fluff and or wrong.
The main point was the topics they were discussing and that Google is the Devil.
