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This doesn't apply to those looking for comps, but...
Go to caesars.com.
Go through the normal booking process.
When you get to the point where it's asking you to pay, close the window.
Wait a few hours.
For many dates/properties, it will email you an offer to get 5% off if you complete your booking.
It's a marketing trick to try to push the customer into completing a booking where he almost got to the end.
Thanks, Dan.
That's money in the bank.
Good tip and try this same thing with other companies that have web stores. It's pretty common. My best deal came a couple of years ago when I signed up for an online dating site as a "free member" which gave me the opportunity to "look" but I could not email or make contact with any of the gals. I "looked" for about a month and then the email offers came. I resisted the email offers and each month the email offers got better and better. After about 6 months I got an offer that I couldn't refuse: pay for 1 month and get 11 months free. I took it.
On the other hand, there are times when if you look at some online offer and don't grab it then you run the risk that the price goes up. This is what happens when you try to buy certain web addresses or URLs. I found that if you put a web address in a shopping cart but don't actually buy it during the reserve time (which might be 24 hours) that when you do decide to buy it there is a "premium price" attached to it.
So, it can work both ways. Since Vegas has more hotel rooms than visitors, I think it's pretty safe that a discount coupon will be coming if you don't buy right away.
Really? All that for a possible 5% as well as a possible rate hike?? Isn't anyone else's time worth more than this type of scraping?
We can't all be aristocrats like you, Rob.
What "possible rate hike"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If you are booking anything but the last minute, it is unlikely the rate will jump on the same day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
This also doesn't take any time. You are just stopping your booking and continuing it later.
Typical dickbrain retort from this degenerate putzQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If more people were this frugal, less people would be declaring bankruptcy. Just sayin....
You are correct James...then again, you are one of the few here with any senseQuote:
Originally Posted by james40
I just find it ironic that people with poor money management skills would have a negative opinion of people with good money management skills.
So why is there so much criticism of win goals and loss limits? Just saying....Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
I understand the math guys and AP, but to me, sitting for hours to in a smoke filled casino grinding out some theoretical edge is insane. The trade off in my health and sanity is not worth it.
I did hit a quarter royal Sunday night in Tahoe, it was a 3 card fill holding an Ace and King of clubs. I had just sat down at the machine and put in $100, it hit a few small things, I was at $115 and the royal came. My wife happened to walk up as I was taking a picture of it and I cashed out and was done for the night (I did play some slots with the wife) but no more video poker (that night). I guess you could say I hit my win goal, but in reality I just liked the idea of keeping the ticket intact until I left Tahoe. We ended ahead in gambling for the trip so that is just a plus in our book.
I don't have a win goal, but we most definitely have a loss limit. We play for recreation and while most of our dollars go towards shows and food, we do allocate a portion to gambling. The portion we devote to gambling has never approached the amount we devote to other pursuits. If it ever did, well that becomes a slippery slope doesn't it?
Using loss limits and win goals while playing a positive expectation game isn't "money management" per se, unless money management is the same as shuffling money around, as in moving it to different piles on a table.
Win goals and loss limits with negative expectation games, if not reducing events played, are similarly not money management unless shuffling money from pile to pile would be considered money management.
These are faux money managements. They have the appearance of significance, they occupy thought processes, but they do not really affect results. They may, however, make a gambler feel better about results, which I suppose has some value...both to the psyche of the gambler and the bottom line of the casino.
Win goals and loss limits provide an illusion of control. That control exists in reality only if it limits your exposure in a negative expectation game. If it reduces the events wagered, it reduces your losses for a negative game.
Not having win goals and loss limits at positive expectation games is based on an illusion that you can't lose playing a positive expectation game.
My loss limits are from not thinking of myself as a gambler and avoiding most gambling unless it's part of a planned trip. In other words, we don't go anywhere with gambling as a goal. For the same reason, we avoid the Indian casinos. We probably have 5 within a 60 mile radius. Way too convenient. I've heard too many horror stories of people getting caught in the Indian casino web. Our city bus line makes a run to the closest casino, the extension paid for by the tribe. We will use them when traveling as upscale rest stops. They tend to have nice restrooms and decent restaurants.
I don't count comps as anything but comps. If I start the day with $500 in my wallet and my wallet is empty at the end of the day, I don't rationalize "it's really only a $100 loss because of my free room and a free buffet". It's a real loss of real money, therefore, I would try $100 and quit when that is gone.
I don't think of positive or negative games, you can go broke equally fast on both. I tend to think more of the psychology of gaming and what the casino is doing to extract money out of my wallet. The quicker you realize that nothing is free at the casino, the better off you are. Harrahs and I have a very tenuous relationship, we are essentially friends with benefits, when those benefits go away, I go away.
And that conversely, you can't win at a negative expectation game. The bell curve doesn't care about expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
It's a probabilistic world. You either want numbers for you or against you. No guarantees. No illusions. Win goals and stop losses on negative expectation games don't affect your bottom line unless they reduce your events played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Congrats on the win-and this post:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
It's fascinating to me how people can never win at negative expectation games, and how they always win at positive expectation games.
Fortunately I only lose so I don't have to explain any wins to the math experts or to the lawyers of the ex wives.