The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

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Originally Posted by MisterV

It's interesting to watch how KJ's detractors attempt to disregard, downplay, and even question the veracity of regnis's confirmation that KJ really was backroomed and injured in a LV casino as claimed.

Trotting out seedvalue as being a better, more credible witness than regnis: bwa ha ha ha, as if.

Bottom line: while arguably not definitive proof, the simple post by regnis has done a lot to clear the matter up: like it, or not.

Haters will still hate ... players will still play ... Kj will still be around exposing bullshit artists, frauds and loudmouth trolls.

Equipoise?

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The reference to Seedvalue was meant to be a reduction to absurdity of the idea that one person declaring something is "confirmed" is some kind of unimpeachable proof.

For the rest I think the most charitable explanation is that you are a pot-stirrer, as Max says. I actually think you believe yourself though.

So to repeat my earlier point, what do you think of the fact that no record of this incident shows up on Google despite KJ's claim that it was covered by multiple local news networks?

You know that it is essentially impossible for that not to show up online?

Bbbbwwwaaaahhh, the kewl-J is slippery like the eel, just like the CONTEST-KING, r-e-dietz, hey hey!!!!

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Originally Posted by jdog

And remember, maxpen did not troll you until after he tried to find your suit. Which could have confirmed your story, and actually would have helped you. Then finally you relinquish the suit was made up after you made him waste time looking for it. Can you blame the guy for not being a fan?? You've created all this BS for yourself.

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When I started talking about a lawsuit having been filed, do you think I didn't KNOW that no evidence of a lawsuit would be found? :confused: That was 100% the intent, to have someone waste a lot of time and effort looking. We were already into discussions involving a settlement at that time. This would mis-direct them away from information that was actually available about the case.

I just didn't intend for that person to be Maxpen. You know who that mis-direct was intended for. I am sorry MaxPen got caught up in that. But that doesn't give him the right to make up the lies he made up afterwords about me being Asian and playing $5 and $10 limits. At first I thought or gave him the benefit of doubt with that in that maybe it was an honest mistake. But when he kept at it and has still kept at it, I know it was intentional.

There are AP's on this forum. It is mostly AP's. I don't know your story, nor you personally of course, but I assume you are some sort of AP. Maybe machines? Whatever. Now I know all AP's don't go through what us card counters go through against casinos and all the backoffs and playing the cat and mouse game and all, although in the past few years machines players have certainly drawn the attention of casino surveillance/security concerns as well (in part because of the popular multi-carding going on). But card counters have dealt with this shit for decades. Long before I started my career and that is 20 years now. And card counter that plays for a living fights a daily battle with the casinos. Someone doxxing us is a big deal in this age of database information and all.

So here is a guy, this Mdawg, nevermind that his whole story is made up and defied everything about how Vegas and the casinos work> He doxxed me, a player that plays for a living, trying to hurt me and my career. All because I said I don't believe him. And you people on this forum of mostly AP's and people on other forums, including Shackleford at WoV, don't have a problem with that? You embrace and welcome him and his trolling, and worse yet doxxing? WTF!!!:confused:

That is probably what irks me most. Fellow advantage players don't seem to have a problem with that. And make no mistake, that is exactly why Mdawg was and continues to be so interested in this incident. He saw an opportunity to find more information about me that he could use to harm me. And all because I dared say, "no you are wrong, casinos do care about players winning. It isn't ok with them. They don't let players spread 1-50 and win every day".

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by MisterV

It's interesting to watch how KJ's detractors attempt to disregard, downplay, and even question the veracity of regnis's confirmation that KJ really was backroomed and injured in a LV casino as claimed.

Trotting out seedvalue as being a better, more credible witness than regnis: bwa ha ha ha, as if.

Bottom line: while arguably not definitive proof, the simple post by regnis has done a lot to clear the matter up: like it, or not.

Haters will still hate ... players will still play ... Kj will still be around exposing bullshit artists, frauds and loudmouth trolls.

Equipoise?

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Nothing is cleared up. Who here or anywhere knows anything about Regnis? If you weren't a known pot stirrer most people would just assume you were retarded with the way FraudJ played you while trying to establish his story of back rooming in the beginning.

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Regnis is a dry humor type of poster---like the British. He enjoys satire, as can be deduced from his choice of handle. He also gets fairly heavily involved in issues of a higher profile with a couple mid to lengthy posts, with detailed explanations being his trademark. He does possess and display a lot of common sense when this occurs.

In this case, especially already knowing he believes kew to be the proven liar that everyone else knows him as, regnis was simply interjecting some offbeat life into the discussion with a quick/controversial post in his own inimitable way.

My guess is that he enjoys reading about/watching the lying little twit get beaten to a pulp, and things started to simmer down a tad too much for his liking. And he was successful....the embarrassing beating have ramped up.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by jdog

And remember, maxpen did not troll you until after he tried to find your suit. Which could have confirmed your story, and actually would have helped you. Then finally you relinquish the suit was made up after you made him waste time looking for it. Can you blame the guy for not being a fan?? You've created all this BS for yourself.

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When I started talking about a lawsuit having been filed, do you think I didn't KNOW that no evidence of a lawsuit would be found? :confused: That was 100% the intent, to have someone waste a lot of time and effort looking. We were already into discussions involving a settlement at that time. This would mis-direct them away from information that was actually available about the case.

I just didn't intend for that person to be Maxpen. You know who that mis-direct was intended for. I am sorry MaxPen got caught up in that. But that doesn't give him the right to make up the lies he made up afterwords about me being Asian and playing $5 and $10 limits. At first I thought or gave him the benefit of doubt with that in that maybe it was an honest mistake. But when he kept at it and has still kept at it, I know it was intentional.

There are AP's on this forum. It is mostly AP's. I don't know your story, nor you personally of course, but I assume you are some sort of AP. Maybe machines? Whatever. Now I know all AP's don't go through what us card counters go through against casinos and all the backoffs and playing the cat and mouse game and all, although in the past few years machines players have certainly drawn the attention of casino surveillance/security concerns as well (in part because of the popular multi-carding going on). But card counters have dealt with this shit for decades. Long before I started my career and that is 20 years now. And card counter that plays for a living fights a daily battle with the casinos. Someone doxxing us is a big deal in this age of database information and all.

So here is a guy, this Mdawg, nevermind that his whole story is made up and defied everything about how Vegas and the casinos work> He doxxed me, a player that plays for a living, trying to hurt me and my career. All because I said I don't believe him. And you people on this forum of mostly AP's and people on other forums, including Shackleford at WoV, don't have a problem with that? You embrace and welcome him and his trolling, and worse yet doxxing? WTF!!!:confused:

That is probably what irks me most. Fellow advantage players don't seem to have a problem with that. And make no mistake, that is exactly why Mdawg was and continues to be so interested in this incident. He saw an opportunity to find more information about me that he could use to harm me. And all because I dared say, "no you are wrong, casinos do care about players winning. It isn't ok with them. They don't let players spread 1-50 and win every day".

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Have you ever considered the fact that AP's simply don't like liars like yourself? No need to post another of your rambling essays trying hard to convince others of your concoctions. They know you're lying.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Regnis is a dry humor type of poster---like the British. He enjoys satire, as can be deduced from his choice of handle. He also gets fairly heavily involved in issues of a higher profile with a couple mid to lengthy posts, with detailed explanations being his trademark. He does possess and display a lot of common sense when this occurs.

In this case, especially already knowing he believes kew to be the proven liar that everyone else knows him as, regnis was simply interjecting some offbeat life into the discussion with a quick/controversial post in his own inimitable way.

My guess is that he enjoys reading about/watching the lying little twit get beaten to a pulp, and things started to simmer down a tad too much for his liking. And he was successful....the embarrassing beating have ramped up.

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You could be right Rob. Maybe this was regnis's attempt at stiring the pot. But I have never seen him do that kind of thing before.

On top of that I have had private conversations with regnis even before this incident and always found him to be a good source of information and not someone like you, just playing games. And in regards to this case specifically, I discussed some things with regnis that I didn't and wouldn't discuss publicly. So he had the information to look into this situation if he wanted to. He says he did. I have no reason to doubt him. And it would be a complete reversal of character for him to have just started trolling out of the blue, like you do.

He is free to weigh in at any time. All I continue to ask of him, is that he not reveal any personal identifying information he may have learned.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by jdog

And remember, maxpen did not troll you until after he tried to find your suit. Which could have confirmed your story, and actually would have helped you. Then finally you relinquish the suit was made up after you made him waste time looking for it. Can you blame the guy for not being a fan?? You've created all this BS for yourself.

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When I started talking about a lawsuit having been filed, do you think I didn't KNOW that no evidence of a lawsuit would be found? :confused: That was 100% the intent, to have someone waste a lot of time and effort looking. We were already into discussions involving a settlement at that time. This would mis-direct them away from information that was actually available about the case.

I just didn't intend for that person to be Maxpen. You know who that mis-direct was intended for. I am sorry MaxPen got caught up in that. But that doesn't give him the right to make up the lies he made up afterwords about me being Asian and playing $5 and $10 limits. At first I thought or gave him the benefit of doubt with that in that maybe it was an honest mistake. But when he kept at it and has still kept at it, I know it was intentional.

There are AP's on this forum. It is mostly AP's. I don't know your story, nor you personally of course, but I assume you are some sort of AP. Maybe machines? Whatever. Now I know all AP's don't go through what us card counters go through against casinos and all the backoffs and playing the cat and mouse game and all, although in the past few years machines players have certainly drawn the attention of casino surveillance/security concerns as well (in part because of the popular multi-carding going on). But card counters have dealt with this shit for decades. Long before I started my career and that is 20 years now. And card counter that plays for a living fights a daily battle with the casinos. Someone doxxing us is a big deal in this age of database information and all.

So here is a guy, this Mdawg, nevermind that his whole story is made up and defied everything about how Vegas and the casinos work> He doxxed me, a player that plays for a living, trying to hurt me and my career. All because I said I don't believe him. And you people on this forum of mostly AP's and people on other forums, including Shackleford at WoV, don't have a problem with that? You embrace and welcome him and his trolling, and worse yet doxxing? WTF!!!:confused:

That is probably what irks me most. Fellow advantage players don't seem to have a problem with that. And make no mistake, that is exactly why Mdawg was and continues to be so interested in this incident. He saw an opportunity to find more information about me that he could use to harm me. And all because I dared say, "no you are wrong, casinos do care about players winning. It isn't ok with them. They don't let players spread 1-50 and win every day".

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This is your problem you lie and distort all reality. I never said you were playing $5 and $10 bets. The times I would see you at a table in Eastside you had red and green chips. Nothing that would support your mid level black claims. I dismissed that though. The only time I ever took the time to actually observe you for any period of time was when you were standing behind your sugar daddy at the VP machine in Club Fortune before heading to the cafe for dinner. That was the day that it confirmed in my mind that it was you that I had been seeing at Eastside.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Have you ever considered the fact that AP's simply don't like liars like yourself? No need to post another of your rambling essays trying hard to convince others of your concoctions. They know you're lying.

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I am not going to have a guy that has lied like you have for 20 years....Newells, pictures in a Newell at the dealership, Progressive wagering, Million dollar jackpots on a computer in the storage area of your daughters house, been caught lying with so many things by Dan Druff, including claiming to be in Vegas when your IP address said Phoenix, and so much more, including stealing the double up bug claim from the news and Nester/Kane.

I won't have it Rob!! It is like Hitler telling people they shouldn't hate, or Trump telling people not to lie. Just fuck off you old degenerate gambler, and internet troll has-been.

Mostly the same nonsense you post over and over. But this c'mon:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

do you think I didn't KNOW that no evidence of a lawsuit would be found? :confused: That was 100% the intent, to have someone waste a lot of time and effort looking.

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Of course... because you're 3 steps ahead of everyone lol. So your intent was to eventually get caught in a lie about a lawsuit?? That makes absolutely no sense. Again you claim the media has reported the proof but no one has found anything. Maybe regnis was able to verify part of a story you told him, maybe he's just someone having some fun with us. Seems odd that he chooses a year later to come forward with this.

People here are smarter than you think and I've got better things to do with my time than trying to get through to you.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

This is your problem you lie and distort all reality. I never said you were playing $5 and $10 bets. The times I would see you at a table in Eastside you had red and green chips. Nothing that would support your mid level black claims. I dismissed that though. The only time I ever took the time to actually observe you was when you were standing behind your sugar daddy at the VP machine in Club Fortune before heading to the cafe for dinner.

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I never played red to green at East Cannery. Never ever, EVER. I played green to mid black. Spread of $25 to $250 or $300. And THAT spread was a little lighter than my usual spread because certain places like East Cannery, El Cortez, and a few other smaller places in my rostion just wouldn't tolerate anything bigger.

If you saw someone playing red to green...IT WASNT ME, despite what you may have thought. And you describing that person as Asian proves you had the wrong person.

Now what nationality was the person you are describing at Club Fortune? My partner and I did frequent Club Fortune for a while. It was in our VP rotation, which he was handling at the time. Anyone familiar with the CF mailers knows they used to have 7-8 different 3 day periods with offers, meaning you had to visit 8 times a month instead of once a week, so we swung by there a lot and often timed it to eat at that cafe, which we both liked (and had comps and coupons for).

But that said, if you are again referring to an Asian person, you are WRONG. I have nothing against Asians.....I am just not Asian. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by MisterV

It's interesting to watch how KJ's detractors attempt to disregard, downplay, and even question the veracity of regnis's confirmation that KJ really was backroomed and injured in a LV casino as claimed.

Trotting out seedvalue as being a better, more credible witness than regnis: bwa ha ha ha, as if.

Bottom line: while arguably not definitive proof, the simple post by regnis has done a lot to clear the matter up: like it, or not.

Haters will still hate ... players will still play ... Kj will still be around exposing bullshit artists, frauds and loudmouth trolls.

Equipoise?

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Nothing is cleared up. Who here or anywhere knows anything about Regnis? If you weren't a known pot stirrer most people would just assume you were retarded with the way FraudJ played you while trying to establish his story of back rooming in the beginning.

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We should all have realized by now that MrV doesn't really believe the support for kew he espouses.

He first began that "contrarion charade" because of his dislike of everything mdawg. However, as more evidence emerges we begin to see that there's a reason for his
lonesome dove "view" of proven liar kew.

The poor guy is simply bored. What's happening at home just ain't cutting it anymore. So he's turned into a very prolific VCT poster--one who makes it his business to get involved in EVERYTHING. And as we've seen, he will write ANYTHING to cause the pot to stir.

It is as simple as that. There's no way he puts any stock whatsoever into the multitude of kew's fabrications.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

We should all have realized by now that MrV doesn't really believe the support for kew he espouses.

He first began that "contrarion charade" because of his dislike of everything mdawg. However, as more evidence emerges we begin to see that there's a reason for his
lonesome dove "view" of proven liar kew.

The poor guy is simply bored. What's happening at home just ain't cutting it anymore. So he's turned into a very prolific VCT poster--one who makes it his business to get involved in EVERYTHING. And as we've seen, he will write ANYTHING to cause the pot to stir.

It is as simple as that. There's no way he puts any stock whatsoever into the multitude of kew's fabrications.

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Still NO. The guy that climbed into an RV at the dealership took pictures and posted them on line claiming the RV was his and the same guy that posted pictures of a million dollar jackpot from the computer screen in his daughter's house does NOT get to tell anyone why they shouldn't believe someone else.

You are done here Rob, as far as telling anyone what they should and shouldn't believe. :cool:

Poor Kew, just, can't, shut up. The more he expounds upon himself, and what he does, the more of a spectacle he becomes.

Like him throwing out a few more lines, unprovoked, first thing this morning.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

This is your problem you lie and distort all reality. I never said you were playing $5 and $10 bets. The times I would see you at a table in Eastside you had red and green chips. Nothing that would support your mid level black claims. I dismissed that though. The only time I ever took the time to actually observe you was when you were standing behind your sugar daddy at the VP machine in Club Fortune before heading to the cafe for dinner.

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I never played red to green at East Cannery. Never ever, EVER. I played green to mid black. Spread of $25 to $250 or $300. And THAT spread was a little lighter than my usual spread because certain places like East Cannery, El Cortez, and a few other smaller places in my rostion just wouldn't tolerate anything bigger.

If you saw someone playing red to green...IT WASNT ME, despite what you may have thought. And you describing that person as Asian proves you had the wrong person.

Now what nationality was the person you are describing at Club Fortune? My partner and I did frequent Club Fortune for a while. It was in our VP rotation, which he was handling at the time. Anyone familiar with the CF mailers knows they used to have 7-8 different 3 day periods with offers, meaning you had to visit 8 times a month instead of once a week, so we swung by there a lot and often timed it to eat at that cafe, which we both liked (and had comps and coupons for).

But that said, if you are again referring to an Asian person, you are WRONG. I have nothing against Asians.....I am just not Asian. :rolleyes:

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Anyone who claims to be a "pro" yet allows himself to be baited into posting tens of thousands of words a day in a flailing effort to desperately convince others of something, is nothing but a born liar. Professional gamblers would no sooner allow themselves to get trapped into making such a raging fool of themselves like you continuously do, than they would lick each other's asses for a snack. You know....like homos do :)

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Originally Posted by Garnabby

Poor Kew, just, can't, shut up. The more he expounds upon himself, and what he does, the more of a spectacle he becomes.

Like him throwing out a few more lines, unprovoked, first thing this morning.

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Thanks Sybil. I see you are back to the Garnabby personality of late. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Anyone who claims to be a "pro" yet allows himself to be baited into posting tens of thousands of words a day in a flailing effort to desperately convince others of something, is nothing but a born liar. Professional gamblers would no sooner allow themselves to get trapped into making such a raging fool of themselves like you continuously do, than they would lick each other's asses for a snack. You know....like homos do :)

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You know NOTHING about professional players or gamblers, Rob. What you know is degenerate gambling, spending all your money at casinos, so your retirement plan is living with your daughter. When we want some advice on how to do that, we will wake you up.

There is no good reason for any professional player to participate on any forum, or discord or anything.....BUT some enjoy doing so. This forum is mostly AP's that do, including me. So just stick to what you know, like how the food stamp program works. Oh wait, you screwed that up too.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

We should all have realized by now that MrV doesn't really believe the support for kew he espouses...The poor guy is simply bored. What's happening at home just ain't cutting it anymore. So he's turned into a very prolific VCT poster--one who makes it his business to get involved in EVERYTHING. And as we've seen, he will write ANYTHING to cause the pot to stir. It is as simple as that. There's no way he puts any stock whatsoever into the multitude of kew's fabrications.

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I cetainly have more time to fill since I retired, and yes, I admit to stirring the pot, and yes, I do spend more time on this board now, but what has that got to do with my believing KJ?

I do not believe he lives in the tunnels and is a male prostitute as so many of you birds do, nor do I disbelieve his claim that he is a mid-level LV card counter.

There are aspects of his backroom tale that make me raise my eyebrows, but the confirmation from regnis, a long-time, credible source seals that deal.

We are free to believe and say pretty much whatever we want to here, but when you post a belief you should be prepared to back it up, and the claims of tunnel dwelling and male prostitution are pure fiction.

Which I suppose is to be expected...it keeps conversations going, keeps the board from getting too moribund.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Meantime all we have is the UNKewl one softly whining, Whyy won't you all believvvve mee?

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Wow, the kewl-groomer still squealing like a little bitch, amazing, hey hey!!!!

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Mdawg is a camel fucker. And he likes younger camels, so he is a pedophile camel fucker.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mdawg is a camel fucker. And he likes younger camels, so he is a pedophile camel fucker.

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Doesn't let much room for old Regnis, who doesn't even have pictures of a lot chips, etc. Ha. Sybil's starting to sound pretty good.