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Alan you've said this many times.

You've also said this:


That's where you'll find your answer. As you've said because Die A or Die B could be the 2, OR both could be the 2, there are 11...

I am glad you wrote this, because this illustrates the problem: they are different questions, and because they are different questions they have different answers.

I've been telling you this all...

So what reduces the 1/11 scenario you describe here to 1/6 after you put both dice both in a cup, roll them simultaneously, and a peeker says at least one of the dice is a 2?

Could you show me a link where redietz said it was 1 in 6?
If you're reading redietz, could you please erase some of your inbox messages? I am trying to PM you.

I'm sorry too Alan, could you please explain it to me? How does that bet you posted not match the original question? I missed where it specified which die was the 2.

You have two 6-sided dice in a cup. You shake the dice, and slam the cup down onto the table, hiding the result. Your partner peeks under the cup, and tells you, truthfully, "At least one of the dice...

When you fix the green die as a 2, the red die is 1/6. I agree.
When you fix the red die as a 2, the green die is 1/6. I agree.

Because either die (or both) could start out as the 2 (since you...

I understand how you get 1/6. I've also read most of these monster threads where people have explained it much better than I have.

Throughout the course of these threads, I can see where you...

No and I never have, not under that premise, which is the same way wizard interpreted the problem and not my interpretation of it. You need to understand that if one die is a 2, it's not a function...

At one point, it looks like he understands:



But then he says something like this...



That last statement is why he's stuck on 1/6. It's also why he keeps trying to introduce other...

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Alan, you haven't taken the time to edit this earlier post. You do see your error don't you?



For jbjbs' bet you would only lose if 2-1, 2-3, 2-4, 2-5 or 2-6 shows. Win on 2-2. Other...

In all fairness RS__, Rob was on the right track. His post here from 2 years ago shows that.



Then Alan banned him. Then he came back to suddenly and mysteriously support Alan's 1/6 opinion...

I watched the Wizard's video, and I don't think I would have used the wording "double count" even though I know exactly what he means. At the end of the video, he has 36 sets of dice laid out with...

You have two 6-sided dice in a cup. You shake the dice, and slam the cup down onto the table, hiding the result. Your partner peeks under the cup, and tells you, truthfully, "At least one of the dice...

Well... I have a problem understanding how you think it's 1/11. So do me a favor. Take two physical dice and roll them. After at least one of the dice shows a 2, explain to me how you get your...

The reason why your initial bet proposed 2 years ago with the Wizard is a loser for you, is because you realise there are 10 losses for every win.

How can this be if the bet is only on when there...

Alan, when 1 die is a 2, of course the odds of the other die being a 2 is 1/6. There are only 6 sides to a die. That is not what we disagree on. We are disagreeing on the question initially asked...

Alan, you posted the original parameters with the Wizard that follow the original wording of the question exactly.



This will be twice now that you have warned coach belly against taking the...

You have 1 of 11 possible combinations under the cup. The specific combination of 2 2 is the one we're interested in.

Here you are advising coach belly AGAINST accepting a bet you originally...

Besides being against the rules of the game, allowing one die to remain on the table and then throwing a second die would open the house to the possibility of losing more, and at the same time is...

Thank you Rob.[/QUOTE]

Did you thank Rob for this post as well, or did you ban him?

THAT would be 1/6. But it's not even close to the original question.

Alan, I asked you this earlier but you either missed or ignored it.

Let's say during a crap game, you throw the dice, one...

THAT would be 1/6. But it's not even close to the original question.

Alan, I asked you this earlier but you either missed or ignored it.

Let's say during a crap game, you throw the dice, one...

Reminding everyone from post 178



These are the basic details of the bet, which are essentially the same as what Alan posted. Any takers? We can negotiate the minimum number of rolls, stakes,...