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    No but I've read that they reserve the right to...

    No but I've read that they reserve the right to reset progressives and MHBs each time the ship docks.
  2. Las Vegas is by far the worst city for this I...

    Las Vegas is by far the worst city for this I have ever seen. A red light here means there's time for two more vehicles to proceed.

    I think I'm going to get rear ended some day for stopping on a...
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    According to WoO they occur once in 15 hands so 5...

    if you're talking about a normal super times pay then I absolutely do not believe you. Thats starting to get into some Alan Mendelson bulshit territory right there.[/QUOTE]

    Are you saying that a...
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    So?

    So?
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    It's less likely than getting three dealt royals...

    It's less likely than getting three dealt royals in a row.
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    I love these stories that start along the lines...

    I love these stories that start along the lines of "some guy said something like...".
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    I guess redietz thinks I was alleging that all...

    I guess redietz thinks I was alleging that all line movements are rational, i.e. the strong EMH from finance theory.

    I was in fact referring to handicappers "doing all the hard work" of making...
  8. Acescracked_1210, are the pays worse as the...

    Acescracked_1210, are the pays worse as the denomination increases in the 2x/3x/4x rounds as well?
  9. He's saying the paytable is worse the higher the...

    He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Prozema was implying that he thought the reel strips themselves in the main game were different at the higher bet levels. I don't believe that's the case....
  10. I think he did think that. I thought the same...

    He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Prozema was implying that he thought the reel strips themselves in the main game were different at the higher bet levels. I don't believe that's the case....
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    Probably some mixture of common sense and the...

    Duh.

    I cannot believe anyone would believe this as a blanket statement. First of all, whether it is or isn't is sport-dependent, which has multiple components I won't get into here. Second,...
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    You doubt that closing lines for any major...

    You doubt that closing lines for any major betting market are more accurate on average than opening lines?
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    Dependence on market efficiency is true of many...

    Dependence on market efficiency is true of many kinds of sports bets, and come to think of it +EV bets in all markets that don't have terminal events (e.g. equities). You seem to be suggesting that...
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    This seems to me to be of the same order as...

    This seems to me to be of the same order as "money from free play is not AP money".
  15. Wow. Of all the people I've heard wonder about...

    Wow. Of all the people I've heard wonder about this (including me), nobody else bothered to just compare the listed pays at the different denominations.
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    I've never seen any numbers on this but I think...

    I've never seen any numbers on this but I think the 6:5 vs 3:2 distinction doesn't affect the overall house hold as much as one might think because so much of the hold comes from the side bets anyway.
  17. The meters add up to 1.87% in case anyone's...

    The meters add up to 1.87% in case anyone's curious.
  18. I actually edited my 83% to 85% before you sent...

    I actually edited my 83% to 85% before you sent your response to give a more likely figure.

    What I meant is that if a casino wants a slot to have around an 88% return and is deciding between the...
  19. I think what we've been referring to as the quasi...

    I think what we've been referring to as the quasi par sheet gives the figures for the non-progressive game, despite the fact that it uses the word "progressive" one time.

    That's why it says things...
  20. For some reason your annotated pictures are not...

    For some reason your annotated pictures are not showing up for me but let me ask you a question that may help settle this.

    Do you know how much total money is added to the several meters per...
  21. I went back and looked at the original WoV...

    I went back and looked at the original WoV thread. They are doing it wrong.
  22. In your spreadsheet you have the 5QH and 6QH at...

    In your spreadsheet you have the 5QH and 6QH at reset yielding a return of .88.

    I believe this is incorrect. If we take 88% to be the RTP (using the lowest value listed on the quasi par sheet),...
  23. Tableplay- I dug up the old WoV thread about...

    Tableplay-

    I dug up the old WoV thread about this game and noticed that Mission46 was making a mistake in his analysis, if I did not misunderstand him.

    He seemed to be taking the RTP (88% or so...
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    Expected value is a term from statistics that...

    Expected value is a term from statistics that seems so self-explanatory and ubiquitous in advantage gambling that I'm not sure it should qualify as jargon.

    Regardless the general problem of jargon...
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    It seems strange to me that you find the term...

    No just chops, as in the sports bettor pays 80% of the bet and gets 80% of the win. It's a way of circumventing anti-beard rules.[/QUOTE]

    I'm not sure what the term "+EV sports bettor" is supposed...
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