View Poll Results: Who is the biggest bulls-shitter?

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    1 12.50%
  • the kewl-J

    7 87.50%
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  1. #1
    I gotta know so I post the survey question, who is the biggest bulls-shitter in the joint, hey hey?

  2. #2
    When he was active here, and depending on how you define "bullshitting," Even Bob put the meter on tilt.

    Such mindless, inane, mundane effluvia.

    But if by "bullshitting" you mean "lying..."
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #3
    UNKewLyingJ has an unfair advantage in this poll because just yesterday he laid down another whopper about how his fictional Brittle Bones story actually had already run on the news (twice, with video even). How ya gonna compete with that? it’s like he knew the poll was coming and put the fix in.
    Last edited by MDawg; 01-15-2024 at 10:27 PM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  4. #4
    All this is poll, like the entire forum is, is a group of members, like a high school clique that don't like someone and take every opportunity to troll that person. You guys have called me everything from a male prostitute to homeless, living in the tunnels. How freaking mature!

    I have shared my experiences as a mid-level card counter for 15 years. Nothing I have shared defies anything. Not the math involved. Not the way things actually work.

    -- No magical million+ jackpots on a machine that the casino rolled in just for me and placed in the storage area.
    -- No double-up bug story stolen from the news.
    -- No pictures in a million dollar RV at the dealership claiming it was mine.
    -- No $100-$5000 spreads playing double deck blackjack for 10 straight hours on the strip.
    -- No thousands of nights comped in high end suites, while claiming wins of millions of dollars.
    -- No 60 straight winning blackjack hands (although I did have a pretty amazing shoe 13 years ago in which won most of the hands when the count was positive and my max bet was out).

    I have shared winning and losing (long periods). Years that were far below expectation. I have shared backoffs, and my one (to date) trespass. And explained what I do to minimize these situations.

    And yes, I lied about the lawsuit part of a trespass/backroom incident last year to try to protect myself and personal info from getting out. That is ALL, you 3rd graders have on me. Sometimes AP's that share some of their experiences have to change details. And sometimes, if we have revealed to much, we might have to lie.

    But that isn't even what this is about, or has been about for a couple years now. It is about a clique of mostly older dudes, bashing and attacking someone they don't like. You guys have found a forum and a forum owner/administrator that allows that. Big deal.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-15-2024 at 11:28 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    All this is poll, like the entire forum is, is a group of members, like a high school clique that don't like someone and take every opportunity to troll that person. You guys have called me everything from a male prostitute to homeless, living in the tunnels. How freaking mature!

    I have shared my experiences as a mid-level card counter for 15 years. Nothing I have shared defies anything. Not the math involved. Not the way things actually work.

    -- No magical million+ jackpots on a machine that the casino rolled in just for me and placed in the storage area.
    -- No double-up bug story stolen from the news.
    -- No pictures in a million dollar RV at the dealership claiming it was mine.
    -- No $100-$5000 spreads playing double deck blackjack for 10 straight hours on the strip.
    -- No thousands of nights comped in high end suites, while claiming wins of millions of dollars.
    -- No 60 straight winning blackjack hands (although I did have a pretty amazing shoe 13 years ago in which won most of the hands when the count was positive and my max bet was out).

    I have shared winning and losing (long periods). Years that were far below expectation. I have shared backoffs, and my one (to date) trespass. And explained what I do to minimize these situations.

    And yes, I lied about the lawsuit part of a trespass/backroom incident last year to try to protect myself and personal info from getting out. That is ALL, you 3rd graders have on me. Sometimes AP's that share some of their experiences have to change details. And sometimes, if we have revealed to much, we might have to lie.

    But that isn't even what this is about, or has been about for a couple years now. It is about a clique of mostly older dudes, bashing and attacking someone they don't like. You guys have found a forum and a forum owner/administrator that allows that. Big deal.
    You lie about so goddam much no one wants to bother to list it out anymore. You need serious help.

    People don't like you because you lie about everything. Just recently you went down the whole sports bettor grinding thing with made up numbers. You've recently talked about the press figuring out who you were when it makes absolutely 0 sense.

    Serious question - Do you believe there are lurkers out there who still believe you?

    "is all you 3rd graders got on me" - this speaks volumes btw.

    Anyone could start up a forum. Go start your own where you can mod it to your hearts content. No one will interact with you. You force yourself upon this forum. I guess there is only so much you can talk about in blackjack while your need to prove yourself still beats.

    Have you considered psych help? Some sort of therapist?

    Does this decade long bullshitting make your life better? Why?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  6. #6
    Ok kewl, your lies are the most believable because they don't defy the math... happy now??

  7. #7
    Speaking of these 3, I see similarities. My belief is each one is telling many truths, while at the same time, selling a big lie. However I do think they all may have made some money gambling, but to a lesser degree than claimed. Their big selling points are:

    • Singer very much wants us to believe he’s made millions with VP.
    • kewl very much wants us to believe he makes a living primarily counting cards.
    • MDawg very much wants us to believe he’s extremely wealthy.

    My bet is all 3 are not true.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Speaking of these 3, I see similarities. My belief is each one is telling many truths, while at the same time, selling a big lie. However I do think they’ve all made some money gambling, but to a lesser degree than claimed. Their big selling points are:

    • Singer very much wants us to believe he’s made millions with VP.
    • kewl very much wants us to believe he makes a living primarily counting cards.
    • MDawg very much wants us to believe he’s extremely wealthy.

    My bet is all 3 are not true.
    My best guess is that (depending on one's definition of "extremely") the third is actually true. A hefty correlation between Shackleford's bending over (backwards or not) and MDawg's material resources seems likely.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Ok kewl, your lies are the most believable because they don't defy the math... happy now??
    No, not really happy, nor unhappy. But you did just prove my point. There is nothing about my claims that anyone can point to as proof of anything. And there is good reason for that. because what I claim is true.

    So what you have is a group of people that have decided they don't want to believe me (and that is fine), but it is not based on anything except they have decided they don't like me for whatever reason.

    What has become clear is that people here have no idea what proof is.

    Proof is when a guy climbs into an RV that isn't his and posts pictures claiming it is and you can prove that by finding that exact RV at the dealership and speaking with the dealership manager.

    Proof is when a guy posts a picture of a million dollar jackpot and it is on a computer screen, not a video poker machine and in the reflection of that screen you can see people that aren't him and exercise equipment, as well as the curser on the computer screen.

    Proof is a guy who has made multiple claims of million dollar wins over the years and when you look into him using his real name (which is known) you find nothing but bankruptcies and evictions.

    Proof is a guy who for 7 straight months posts daily reports of casino winnings that total over half a million dollars and then in one sentence says "additionally Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even".

    Proof is a guy that claims he spread $100-$5000 playing blackjack for 10 straight hours winning 60k, when no casino on the strip would allow that for more than about 15 minute and Wizard himself said as much.

    Proof is a guy that claims he has won hundreds of thousands over the year and when you are able to get ahold of his actual records (even if you shouldn't be able to) the records show him over 100k in the red for the year.

    These things are proof. But when you say to someone, yeah, everything you have claimed makes sense and nothing defies anything, but I don't believe you because I don't like you. That is NOT proof. And this hasn't just happened with me. The same AccountinQuestion that demands that I leave this forum because no one likes me did the same thing with redietz. He said he found him arrogant as justification for his attacks. MaxPen did the same with mickeycrimm for a number of years. Calling mickey a drunk, hobo and gay slurs because he didn't like an opinion mickey had.

    I am not here to make friends. That never was important to me. It is a gambling forum or supposed to be and I have shared some of my experiences as a mid-level card counter living and playing Vegas for over a decade. I don't give a flying fuck who like me or not for reasons that have nothing to do with my gambling experiences.

    But this really isn't a gambling forum is it despite than most members are involved with gambling, many as AP's. This is a "good old boys" club and anyone not one of the good old boys is not welcome and attacked about things not even involving gambling.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But this really isn't a gambling forum is it despite than most members are involved with gambling, many as AP's. This is a "good old boys" club and anyone not one of the good old boys is not welcome and attacked about things not even involving gambling.
    I disagree that Singer and the dawg can be considered "good old boys."

    Both carry a shit-ton of baggage, esp. Singer: we all know he's full of shit and tolerate him, like he's the loony uncle living in the attic.

    And the dawg...he's in the unique position of posting a flood of flames that people pay lip service to while laughing and shaking their heads at him for his gambling posts; without his hate he's got nothing.

    I didn't vote in this poll as there is no point in doing so, at least not with this carbuncled crowd.

    Keep on keeping on KJ, "It don't mean nothin'."
    What, Me Worry?

  11. #11
    MrV, Rob is the loony grandfather/father living in the attic (off his daughter). But he is NOT my father or grandfather and I don't have to tolerate him. I can call him what he is, because there is actual proof of it.

    Both Rob and Mdawg (Mdawg stole this from Rob) have this idea that if they can attack anyone questioning their dis-proven claims that it somehow makes them and their claims more credible. It is a combination troll-psychopath mentality.

    There have been plenty of people that have questioned me or something I have said and I never jump in attacking them or their family. Eventually I may return attacks but only after they have continued to attack me like this. It is never my first response. Even with people that have already shown it is about something else, I will try to explain anything that I might not have explained well, knowing they don't want to hear anything except what they have already predetermined. Blackhole was the perfect example. I also did this with Alan many times.

    People have a right to question things. But when someone legitimately questions something, if all you can respond with is attacks about them and their families, then there is something else going on isn't there? Their response of attacking like that basically tells all.

    That Singer and Mdawg are so tolerated here and Mdawg at WoV is very perplexing to me. Any real player and real AP that works at winning, should be offended when some ying-yang comes along claiming to win with "special (less optimal) plays". and machines telepathing hot and cold cycles. Or that he wins millions by "betting into hot streaks", or because he is Rainman. These ridiculous claims aren't tolerated from EvenBob when he claims to win 80% of roulette spins, why are they tolerated and laughed off with these guys?

    I work hard at what I do. I accept the risks and experience extreme variance. I have long losing periods. I have backoffs and in the last couple years a trespass incident and several database entry issues. I work hard at it and am constantly exploring and implementing new ways to achieve longevity. And YES it does burn me when these guys come along talking about winning millions of dollars using magic potions, machines talking to them and $100-$5000 spreads, saying the casinos don't care. The casinos DO care and you have to work to win money from them.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  12. #12
    Carbuncle

    Exodus 28:17 ; 39:10 ; Ezekiel 28:13. Heb. barkath; LXX. smaragdos; Vulgate, smaragdus; Revised Version, marg., "emerald."

    The Hebrew word is from a root meaning "to glitter," "lighten," "flash." When held up to the sun, this gem shines like a burning coal, a dark-red glowing coal, and hence is called "carbunculus", i.e., a little coal. It was one of the jewels in the first row of the high priest's breastplate. It has been conjectured by some that the garnet is meant. In Isaiah 54:12 the Hebrew word is 'ekdah , used in the prophetic description of the glory and beauty of the mansions above. Next to the diamond it is the hardest and most costly of all precious stones.
    P.S. I, neither, voted. Best to focus on the truth, instead of on who's honest, or not. Ha.
    Last edited by 1Hit1der; 01-16-2024 at 01:33 PM.
    Upping my game. Ha.


    Gambling will addict some of the people, some of the time, but, deludes all of the people, all of the time.
    ---> O, tell me the, tell me the list of "doped up" people out of left field who claimed to be a gambling messiah.


    No matter where you go, there you are!
    ---> O! Gee, turn the other way. You are more.


    My final, final anagram with gematria, https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171878

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    "It don't mean nothin'."
    Oh but it does, given the number of 10x multiplier responses the Fraud(J) keeps on keepin' on wit'!

    Originally Posted by Gottlob1 View Post
    KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?
    As far as
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    [*]MDawg very much wants us to believe he’s extremely wealthy.
    I've just posted my session reports and whatever else along the way, never claimed one way or another. It's actually UNKewlJ who posts the word "wealthy" the most often with regards to MDawg, mostly as an explanation for how or why MDawg could be playing at the level he has been playing.

    I'd just as soon it be thought I'm dirt poor and have raised every nickel I pass across the circle through cunning and vigor directed against the casinos.

    But the fact remains, that MDawg wins!

    And this fact sticks in UNKewlJ's craw like nothing you might imagine. And leads to more and more 10x multiplier responses (and manually rephrased nervous essays).

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    Originally Posted by mcap
    Kew is simply incapable of letting anything, however minor, go.
    Last edited by MDawg; 01-16-2024 at 01:45 PM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    My best guess is that (depending on one's definition of "extremely") the third is actually true. A hefty correlation between Shackleford's bending over (backwards or not) and MDawg's material resources seems likely.
    At one time I might have agreed with you to an extent but I don't think so. I think he lives comfortably but my belief is the dawg is more 'peripheral' to very wealthy people. Either his family has money, or his business associates, friends, etc... hence the insecurity.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    My best guess is that (depending on one's definition of "extremely") the third is actually true. A hefty correlation between Shackleford's bending over (backwards or not) and MDawg's material resources seems likely.
    At one time I might have agreed with you to an extent but I don't think so. I think he lives comfortably but my belief is the dawg is more 'peripheral' to very wealthy people. Either his family has money, or his business associates, friends, etc... hence the insecurity.
    Well, I guess I don't have a US-centric view of familial wealth. If his family has cash, and he's a male in that family, then he has cash. I see no reason to make a distinction. If he has access to the cash to use as he wishes, then it's "his" cash.

    For most of the world, if a male's family has money, then that male has money. Kind of like Hunter Biden -- LOL.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Ok kewl, your lies are the most believable because they don't defy the math... happy now??
    No, not really happy, nor unhappy. But you did just prove my point. There is nothing about my claims that anyone can point to as proof of anything. And there is good reason for that. because what I claim is true.

    So what you have is a group of people that have decided they don't want to believe me (and that is fine), but it is not based on anything except they have decided they don't like me for whatever reason.

    What has become clear is that people here have no idea what proof is.

    Proof is when a guy climbs into an RV that isn't his and posts pictures claiming it is and you can prove that by finding that exact RV at the dealership and speaking with the dealership manager.

    Proof is when a guy posts a picture of a million dollar jackpot and it is on a computer screen, not a video poker machine and in the reflection of that screen you can see people that aren't him and exercise equipment, as well as the curser on the computer screen.

    Proof is a guy who has made multiple claims of million dollar wins over the years and when you look into him using his real name (which is known) you find nothing but bankruptcies and evictions.

    Proof is a guy who for 7 straight months posts daily reports of casino winnings that total over half a million dollars and then in one sentence says "additionally Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even".

    Proof is a guy that claims he spread $100-$5000 playing blackjack for 10 straight hours winning 60k, when no casino on the strip would allow that for more than about 15 minute and Wizard himself said as much.

    Proof is a guy that claims he has won hundreds of thousands over the year and when you are able to get ahold of his actual records (even if you shouldn't be able to) the records show him over 100k in the red for the year.

    These things are proof. But when you say to someone, yeah, everything you have claimed makes sense and nothing defies anything, but I don't believe you because I don't like you. That is NOT proof. And this hasn't just happened with me. The same AccountinQuestion that demands that I leave this forum because no one likes me did the same thing with redietz. He said he found him arrogant as justification for his attacks. MaxPen did the same with mickeycrimm for a number of years. Calling mickey a drunk, hobo and gay slurs because he didn't like an opinion mickey had.

    I am not here to make friends. That never was important to me. It is a gambling forum or supposed to be and I have shared some of my experiences as a mid-level card counter living and playing Vegas for over a decade. I don't give a flying fuck who like me or not for reasons that have nothing to do with my gambling experiences.

    But this really isn't a gambling forum is it despite than most members are involved with gambling, many as AP's. This is a "good old boys" club and anyone not one of the good old boys is not welcome and attacked about things not even involving gambling.
    You can say the sky is a fluorescent pink and little fairies are dancing around but that doesn't mean we need proof to know it is bullshit. We can't prove it isn't but everyone should be smart enough to know better. You are being attacked for all your lieing about everything involving gambling. What a dead fucking horse this is.

    Also I never demanded you leave this forum? That is just more bullshit. You can't help yourself. Get help.

    I could ask you to point out where I said this.. but like many many many times prior - you will not have an answer.

    The more interesting question is - is AIQ a total loser given the simple fact that he still interacts with KewlJ ?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    MrV, Rob is the loony grandfather/father living in the attic (off his daughter). But he is NOT my father or grandfather and I don't have to tolerate him. I can call him what he is, because there is actual proof of it.

    Both Rob and Mdawg (Mdawg stole this from Rob) have this idea that if they can attack anyone questioning their dis-proven claims that it somehow makes them and their claims more credible. It is a combination troll-psychopath mentality.

    There have been plenty of people that have questioned me or something I have said and I never jump in attacking them or their family. Eventually I may return attacks but only after they have continued to attack me like this. It is never my first response. Even with people that have already shown it is about something else, I will try to explain anything that I might not have explained well, knowing they don't want to hear anything except what they have already predetermined. Blackhole was the perfect example. I also did this with Alan many times.

    People have a right to question things. But when someone legitimately questions something, if all you can respond with is attacks about them and their families, then there is something else going on isn't there? Their response of attacking like that basically tells all.

    That Singer and Mdawg are so tolerated here and Mdawg at WoV is very perplexing to me. Any real player and real AP that works at winning, should be offended when some ying-yang comes along claiming to win with "special (less optimal) plays". and machines telepathing hot and cold cycles. Or that he wins millions by "betting into hot streaks", or because he is Rainman. These ridiculous claims aren't tolerated from EvenBob when he claims to win 80% of roulette spins, why are they tolerated and laughed off with these guys?

    I work hard at what I do. I accept the risks and experience extreme variance. I have long losing periods. I have backoffs and in the last couple years a trespass incident and several database entry issues. I work hard at it and am constantly exploring and implementing new ways to achieve longevity. And YES it does burn me when these guys come along talking about winning millions of dollars using magic potions, machines talking to them and $100-$5000 spreads, saying the casinos don't care. The casinos DO care and you have to work to win money from them.
    It is all about some jealousy of other bullshitters. You guys are the greatest.

    Kewl - people who make a lot of money in the world aren't sitting around on internet forums proving others don't make money. This is not rational thought. It is you - a person who doesn't make money gambling who is so stuck on proving something.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    But the fact remains, that MDawg wins!
    If a player starts with 2 million dollars of family money or whatever and ends with 1 million dollars.....They have NOT won a million dollars!

    That is essentially the Mdawg great adventure. Maybe he started with greater than 2 million, maybe far greater, maybe not. But his gambling has NOT resulted in a net win of money.

    Now I know of some wealthy gamblers that will lose 100k, and get comps including rooms or suites, meals, airfare, tickets to events that are over inflated by a value of 10, that may total more than 100k and call that winning. But it isn't really. If that is what Mdawg is doing...playing the comp game, maybe even playing it well, that is fine. But don't feed us this shit about winning.

    Now I used to communicate with a guy (he even came to this forum for a short period before he was driven away) that did turn all the comps and casino freebies into a living. he played blackjack high stakes spreading like 1-2 or 1-3 and sitting out some of the more negative hands (or forcing a shuffle). His blackjack play was basically breakeven and very tolerated. And he received a ton of comps, including shopping sprees, trips, tickets to events that he would then turn around and sell. THAT is where he made a living off of.

    This was a different time though, when things like tickets were transferable and casinos actually comped something for blackjack play. Now adays casinos comp very, very little for blackjack play, which is just a whole other aspect of the Mdawg "story" that doesn't work.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    It is all about some jealousy of other bullshitters. You guys are the greatest.

    Kewl - people who make a lot of money in the world aren't sitting around on internet forums proving others don't make money. This is not rational thought. It is you - a person who doesn't make money gambling who is so stuck on proving something.
    It isn't jealousy AinQ. I am so very anti-casino that I am legitimately happy for anyone that wins money at the casino. Even some lifetime loser that feeds a few bucks into a progressive machine and walks away with a big lottery-like win.

    But I do take offense at people on these forums that claim they win (long-term) by hocus pokus, voodoo shit. As a player who works at winning for 20 years and takes the risks, I am offended by that bullshit.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It is all about some jealousy of other bullshitters.
    I bet there is some truth to that. Clearly kewl has stake in being the most convincing liar.

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