Just came back from dinner. I met friends at a restaurant at one of the local casinos where I have played from time to time, and when I walked in I noticed there was a drawing for free play. So I swiped my card. After dinner, on the way out, I walked by the players club desk and saw my name on the screen of winners. $1,000 of free play. Nice dessert.
Congratulations, Alan. Maybe your pER is higher than you think.
More important is how did you treat that free play? If you weren't expecting it, then running it thru once and taking whatever the machine gave you, is the smart approach. But I'm guessing you got about $900 from it, then negotiated with your compulsive side that hates action-ending decisions, and talked yourself into going home with $5000 or $250--whichever came first. Then you justified losing the difference by calling that a "victory" because it was more than you were expecting to walk out of there with.
How close--or far off--am I?
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Actually Rob, I was headed to the car with the group, so I took the $1,000 free play coupon and put it in my wallet. The coupon is valid for about 9 months.
Since it isn't one of my regular haunts, I was wondering what it would bring on eBay??
Good thing that group was there.
E-bay? You won't get 80% there. Your best bet is to go back and play it thru once. Every dollar is profit.
Well, I went into Reno overnight for my monthly play at the mostly +EV machines I've not yet lost to in the Eldorado. I won $1230 thanks to four 3's on $5 ACE$ BP, but here's something that would cause great angst among AP's. When I put my card into the reader it said the usual "accepted", but when I looked at it ten minutes later, it said "see player's rewards". I removed it then reinserted, and it did the same thing. No matter though, as I played on until my $500 minimum win goal was realized playing 25c thru $5 ARTT.
When I was leaving the club was opening, so I stopped by. A suit came out to tell me that my play was restricted in that offers, free play, comps, mailers, or points would no longer be applied to my vp play--which they said I was always welcomed to play. I asked if this was because of the high EV games I've been playing, and the answer was no. I left without concern because I've never cared about or played for the comps or the points; I always play just for the money directly from the machines. And, of course, I'll be going back there for more play soon.
Anyway I forgot (for all you muscle car lovers). Today we're going to Reno with our visitor friends, for the annual Hot August Night's event. I'm not getting much sleep, but "live for today when you still have & respect your health". What's interesting about this event is that all week, there's been a small fleet of custom $1.5million RV's something like ours pulling into our RV park towing classic '60s cars for the show....only these RV's cost nearly a million dollars MORE than ours. I was told four of them are owned by Reggie Jackson, and we were allowed to look inside. It's only special if you're into RVing, but it was a sight to see. Same with the muscle cars, which I've always loved. You won't see any rice burners at Hot August Nights.
Last edited by Rob.Singer; 08-04-2013 at 11:30 AM.
Now THIS is the way to get back to having fun in Nevada after a fabulous trip to SF & Mendocino wine country with my wife! Yes I took a quick look at several other threads where arci continues to post his jealousy over me and where I'm obviously inside his head more than his problems are. But his weaseling out of his own challenge to me recently where he looked as weak and confused as ever, could have a LOT to do with his irritability. Oh well....
It was an exhausting trip, but I felt like going up to Harvey's in Tahoe to play my famous 25c thru $5 ARTT strategy on their new (which is the reason I chose Harvey's for my play this month) 8/5 BP & 9/6 DDBP machines. (They don't have SDBP or TBP+). I set a win-and-leave goal of $500. After losing $2000 with a cashout of only $45 in the first session and with just 2 Flushes, no straight and no FH's, the 2nd session had only a $10 cashout with 25 credits remaining again after just 2 Flushes/no straights/no FH's, when I hit yet another big winner this year. Negative game again? Yup! And did having a goal and a bankroll make any difference? Yup--I took $6000, which is enough to safely play 3 full losing sessions--and which has never happened.
Profit? Exactly $16,180, and no tip went to any of the floor people who hung around with small tip-talk chatting for 3 minutes after I was paid in cash. So while arci continues his boring and monotonous existence and while others debate whether or not I'm the best video poker player ever, the simple fact that I CONTINUE to make gobs of money in my post-professional playing days really says it all. I am the best ever. Period.
Oh, in case the envious choose to declare the photo is not mine AGAIN, I've included a picture of my left hand trying to give the thumbs-up. Anyone who's met me may recognize the dollar sign tattoo on the back of my hand just between my thumb and index finger. It has nothing to do with my having been a professional gambler. I got it after a "lucky" crash landing of an old Soviet cargo plane that I was analyzing its comms system on, in the blizzardy hills of Kazakhstan. Myself and the 3 Russians on the flight all got the same tattoo after we were rescued the following day.
Someone on this forum whom I talk with every now & then just called to ask why, if the machine was in such a seemingly "cold cycle" did I not change machines. Good question, and here's the answer for any of you looking for another Singer teachable moment: this machine exhibited all the signs of being in a cold cycle but one, and in order to actually be in a cold cycle, every parameter must be met. The one that was not met was the outcomes of the five card redraws....or "sweeps" as I like to call them. The machine must not draw any winning hand in 6 straight sweeps--or in 9 of 10 sweeps--and my machine was serving up five card draw winners at the rate of at least 50%.
This was a classic case of understanding how and why the machines are programmed as they are, and utilizing that knowledge to a huge advantage. This was a very frustrating machine to be playing, but I knew a big winner of some type was forthcoming, simply because it was never in a cold cycle.
Thanks for that info. I have been winning a lot of sessions on sweeps but I did not know that info. If anything else, please post. BTW, my friends who have been receiving 10 times the amount of comps as I, and not playing there any at all (trying to get them as players,I guess) found out that these comps could NOT be used in vp machines.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Gotta tell ya', Rob. After sleeping over this post, I would NEVER have continued to play on that machine. The only way would have been my usual play, dropping that machine like a hot potato and maybe trying it again an hour later if I had not won anywhere else.
congratulations on the royal, Rob. I've hit royals on machines that were hot and were seemingly turning out winner after winner, and then I've also hit royals on machines that were "cold" according to your definition. All it takes is one royal to make a cold machine become nuclear.
Thank you Alan. Gotta love the long-term consistent winning on those "negative EV machines"! I haven't played at a Harrahs property in quite some time...and at Harvey's in even a longer amount of time. I'm interested if this will generate any offers because I did play mostly at the $5 level for about 2-1/2 hours.
did you play with a card? how many tier points? did the machine give you 1 tier point for $10 coin in?Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I did play with a card as I always do, with the sole exception being when I played SPS as a pro after being barred from Bellagio & Harrahs on the Strip around 8 years ago. I don't know how many points I accumulated, nor at what rate, because I did not look or even think about looking after being handed a pile of cash. I'll see if it's updated online.
The real question is if you were getting 1 tier credit for $10 of coin in, or was it 1 tier credit for $25 coin in???
I remember looking at the meter on my very first $5 hand. It definitely moved up 2 points, so it has to be 1 per every $10 played, right?
In Las Vegas, the Caesars casinos have changed the tier point structure for full pay games. For example, when you play 8/5 bonus it is 1 tier point for each $25 of coin-in. See the thread about this: http://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showth...CET-propertiesOriginally Posted by Rob.Singer
Ha ha!! Another winner by Singer! Congrats, sir!
Hit quads TEN times tonight, FIVE of them were dealt including QUAD ACES. I went to Rincon for my free play -- and it will probably be the only time this month (September) when I will go there because the various free play offers are so small. What made it worthwhile tonight was the $295 of bounce back money from July that was in addition to $275 of free play.
My first stop was a $2 Aces and Faces machine that gave me quad 10s for $250 and I cashed out $400. I went to a $5 craps table and bought in for $100 and cashed out $153.
I went to $5 Aces and Faces and the quads were coming fast and furious. Got quads nine times including quad aces and the aces were dealt to me (see photo below). I also had quad 8s dealt to me twice, quad nines were dealt to me twice.
Pocketed a $2500 win on the night. Unfortunately, all of the quads on the $5 machine with the exception of the quad aces ($2,000) were worth $625 and allowed me plenty of play time (more than 6500 tier points before the 5,000 bonus) and that means some bounce back money later, and more points towards the Great Gift Wrap Up and I also added on about 70 comp dollars.
Thanks max! Now let's see arci say the same....he's certainly been looking at the pictures
Alan, doesn't the fact that you got a bunch of quads--half of them dealt--and you probably got a good amount of straights and FH's too, while my machine GAVE ME NOTHING BUT A ROYAL IN 2-1/2 HOURS! give you any doubt at all that not all is random with these things?
Also, go back and look at my royal again. Notice anything "odd" about it? Something I've never seen: cards #3, 4, & 5, then #6 & 7 are actually a ROYAL IN SEQUENCE. I know if you line them up on the screen in sequential order then some machines pay a big bonus for that. But what I got means the cards in the deck actually WERE in sequence. Where's my bonus??
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