Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[mickeycrimm]

In other words, I was making money on my way to making the royals and straight flushes. I literally averaged making 4 Aces everyday. My position in the game was so strong that if I were on my case $2000 today I would take it to a bank of unlinked Flush Attacks....and the chances of me going broke on the play would be somewhere between slim and none. In five years and somewhere around 6 million hands the worst losing streak I ever suffered was just $1100. It was a steady $40 an hour gig.

Besides Elko, there were banks of unlinked Flush Attacks in Verdi, Reno, Minden, and the Pioneer in Laughlin. I played all of those banks. And I also swept out the House A Rockin's which was a game that played like Flush Attack except it was based on Full Houses.

[Rob.Singer]

And there you have it--mickey making it up in his own inimitable babbling way as the beer bottles pile up on the side. More "blast from the past" nonsense about Nv. that can't be verified today....and more reasons why this internet slug continues to live a life laden with gov't handouts in his declining years. Not really surprising that his rambling piques the interest of no one....

Let's all have a six-pack, some smokes, and celebrate this wonderful moment with good 'ol Rosie Palmer!

[mickeycrimm]

And there you have it--mickey making it up in his own inimitable babbling way as the beer bottles pile up on the side. More "blast from the past" nonsense about Nv. that can't be verified today....and more reasons why this internet slug continues to live a life laden with gov't handouts in his declining years. Not really surprising that his rambling piques the interest of no one....Let's all have a six-pack, some smokes, and celebrate this wonderful moment with good 'ol Rosie Palmer!

Who didn't know you would show up trolling again. Your ignorant blather is not going to stop me from posting up what I know about video poker. Rob when are you ever going to put up even a simple little equation on video poker? Oh yeah, that's right, according to you math doesn't apply to video poker....but Rob's voodoo strategy does. Rob, is ignorance bliss?

[mickeycrimm]

Some people write about gaining fortune and fame in gambling. How to hit the bigtime. How to win untold riches. I don't know anything about that because I've never been anything like that. I was a down in the trenches working pro. My main gig, Flush Attacks, from the late nineties into the early 2000's was worth about $40 an hour. You don't get rich working for $40 an hour. And I had to put in the time to get the money.

I can write about the nuts and bolts of these kinds of plays all day long because they were my niche. Not get rich quick stuff. Low risk for a decent reward. That was my style and it still is. I'm still a down in the trenches working pro.

[mickeycrimm]

and more reasons why this internet slug continues to live a life laden with gov't handouts in his declining years

Rob, I'm not on the government dole in any kind of way. Your ex son-in-law should be able to tell you that. You are the one that draws government checks, not me.

[quahaug]

Did I miss something? How did you know where in the flush cycle you were when you sat down at a machine?

[coach belly]

I believe that's what your agenda is, yes. Why else would you be saying or insinuating things that are simply untrue?.

What have I said or insinuated that wasn't true?

[coach belly]

I would have no problem laying someone 100 to 1 that they won't be ahead on a 98% game after 1 million hands.

I'm willing to consider the wager, please explain the logistics of how this exercise would take place.

[coach belly]

In five years and somewhere around 6 million hands the worst losing streak I ever suffered was just $1100. It was a steady $40 an hour gig.

What was the total win after 6 million hands?

[coach belly]

I have yet to see any math whatsoever he has a winning system based on win goals or stop losses.

For a session of 2400 hands played, what is the probability of being ahead at one point during the session?

[coach belly]

My point was this -- it doesn't matter how frequently you win or lose, what matters is how you end up overall.

Your friend who won almost every session, was he playing at the 30/70 win/lose probability you showed earlier?

When he had his infrequent losing sessions, was he prevented from quitting before wiping out all of his previous winnings?

[bocce ball]

How did you know where in the flush cycle you were when you sat down at a machine?

That information was unknown, but the worst-case scenario returned 100.78%, so he was guaranteed a positive expected return.

I think the limited information probably worked to his overall benefit and longevity because it discouraged competition from other hustlers.

[coach belly]

To profit, the player would have to be up 19,853/4,555 standard deviations (4.3585 SDs) to break even. I don't know the likelihood of being up 4.35 or more SDs, but it's very low, given that being 3+ SDs is about 0.15% chance.

Are these figures equivalent for fewer hands?...is the likelihood of profit better or worse or the same if you play fewer hands?

[mickeycrimm]

What was the total win after 6 million hands?

Ask Rob's ex son-in-law.

[quahaug]

Ask Rob's ex son-in-law.

That's funny.

[quahaug]

Your friend who won almost every session, was he playing at the 30/70 win/lose probability you showed earlier?

When he had his infrequent losing sessions, was he prevented from quitting before wiping out all of his previous winnings?

This post reveals true ignorance with no humility, or you're just trolling.

[quahaug]

That information was unknown, but the worst-case scenario returned 100.78%, so he was guaranteed a positive expected return.

I think the limited information probably worked to his overall benefit and longevity because it discouraged competition from other hustlers.

I don't think 100.78 at quarters translates to forty buckaroos per hour. Maybe it does at dollars but that would mean never starting with even one flush in the bank. That's at one thousand hands per hour.

[redietz]

While I have confidence in the math as laid out by mickey, RS, and arci, if I really need to pin something down and understand it, I go and ask someone with a doctorate who teaches or has taught college level probability. Then I ask someone else with a doctorate who teaches or has taught college probability. If they agree, I then ask a couple of people who have done stats for professional papers if my understanding makes sense. If the original two math professors don't agree, I keep asking until I have a sense of consensus.

But that's just me.

[coach belly]

This post reveals true ignorance with no humility, or you're just trolling.

It speaks to the concept and strategy of loss limits.

Also, RS didn't reveal whether the people who win almost every session are playing a -EV game.

I originally asked about a friend, but looking back RS wrote that he knew some people who win frequently.

They apparently all lose infrequently...almost never...but when they do they lose back all their winnings plus some.

They all play this way?...none are able to stop after losing a fraction of their winnings?

I'm curious about that, that's why I ask.

[bocce ball]

I don't think 100.78 at quarters translates to forty buckaroos per hour.

No, 100.78% is the worst-case scenario, occurring only when a machine requires 4 flushes to complete the cycle and receive the flush attack payoff.

I averaged having to make 2.9 flushes per play. That put the payback at 104%.