Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[MisterV]

Sure, it's a profit for the moment.

But if she's like the rest of us, those winnings will make their way back into the maw of the casino sooner or later: more likely sooner than later.

Still, nice hit.

[redietz]

Quick props to my girlfriend, who wrapped up her college football record in the Linemasters Contest at 50-23 against-the-spread. Tomorrow, the final day of the contest, she has five NFL games. The worst she can finish is second overall.

[redietz]

With two games yet to be played, she won the LineMasters Contest. She won all three NFL games this afternoon, boosting her overall ATS record to 53-23. She finished on a 24-4 ATS run the final five weeks, with two games still on the docket. It was like watching Usain Bolt sub in for somebody the final 220 of a two-mile run. It was the best close I've seen in 40 years of handicapping.

[FABismonte]

With two games yet to be played, she won the LineMasters Contest. She won all three NFL games this afternoon, boosting her overall ATS record to 53-23. She finished on a 24-4 ATS run the final five weeks, with two games still on the docket. It was like watching Usain Bolt sub in for somebody the final 220 of a two-mile run. It was the best close I've seen in 40 years of handicapping.

Congrats to your girl, Red. What prize did she win?

[regnis]

With two games yet to be played, she won the LineMasters Contest. She won all three NFL games this afternoon, boosting her overall ATS record to 53-23. She finished on a 24-4 ATS run the final five weeks, with two games still on the docket. It was like watching Usain Bolt sub in for somebody the final 220 of a two-mile run. It was the best close I've seen in 40 years of handicapping.

Congrats to your girl, Red. What prize did she win?

Redietz

[redietz]

With two games yet to be played, she won the LineMasters Contest. She won all three NFL games this afternoon, boosting her overall ATS record to 53-23. She finished on a 24-4 ATS run the final five weeks, with two games still on the docket. It was like watching Usain Bolt sub in for somebody the final 220 of a two-mile run. It was the best close I've seen in 40 years of handicapping.

Congrats to your girl, Red. What prize did she win?

Redietz

LOL -- yeah, here's a typical conversation. She ranks the games (required for the contest) from six to one. She puts San Diego State -20 versus New Mexico as a six. I say (yes, verbatim), "I don't really like San Diego State as a play. And I sure don't like them as a six. The worst this can be is 34-10." Well, San Diego State's backup tailback breaks a 60-yard run on third-and-eight with four minutes left, and San Diego State wins 35-10. She looks at me, laughs and says, "I was right," meaning her, not me.

[dannyj]

Got my 5th royal of the year last night. It was kinda bittersweet in that, I was playing dollars the entire session but was losing. Switched to quarters and hit royal within about 5 minutes. Oh well, such is gambling. Cashed out and went to bed a winner.

[FABismonte]

Congrats Dannyj!

Never apologize for hitting a Royal. At least you were playing all five coins.

FAB

[AxelWolf]

Got my 5th royal of the year last night. It was kinda bittersweet in that, I was playing dollars the entire session but was losing. Switched to quarters and hit royal within about 5 minutes. Oh well, such is gambling. Cashed out and went to bed a winner.

Put that shit on the fasted speed

[dannyj]

Thanks FAB.

Axel, I generally prefer to play at the medium speed.

[monet]

Let me explain my use of the phrase "if you really are players."

It is very easy for anyone -- even me -- to quote scripture and verse. But do you actually follow what you preach?

It is very easy for anyone to say they play +EV games and only stop when they are tired or hungry or it's time to go to a show. But is that what you really do? Are you really playing the +EV games you claim to exist? Do you really have the bankroll needed to get through the slumps even on +EV games?

But putting all your "AP talk" and "AP claims" aside there is only one reality in casino gambling: how much money did you start with and how much money did you finish with. Make all the claims you want about the return on certain games, and how dealers flash cards, but the only thing that counts is the bottom line. And the bottom line is determined by only one thing: what money do you have at the moment you stop playing.

Everything else is... just talk.

I just joined this forum and haven't read too many posts. I have been skimming through some threads and backtracked this one a bit. This forum is good for the AP in general from all of the misinformation. I actually think this quote and many others are good for APs or Pros or Hustlers or whatever you want to call them. I remember reading an article years ago that Alan wrote about telling players that you should not fall for the 100% BS machines in Vegas because you do not have the time to put in the required hand count to make every hand to get that 100% or better. I was with a fellow friend at Sams Town actually when I was reading it. I have known this person and we have lived in Vegas for 26 years now. We both had a good chuckle at the article and both agreed that it does not matter about hand count when playing VP it only matters what the payouts are. I agree that hand count and getting large amounts of coin in will eventually bring you ahead of the game but it does not matter if you are playing 1 hand or 10 million hands. If you are playing the game at 100.76 return with perfect strategy or even basic strategy you are playing a Full Pay game.

I suppose it is different for me since I play long hours almost every day and recently in the last 15 months or so I haven't been on anything that has been over the moon. I can break down the last 3 big plays I have found and the members on here that know me from WoV have most likely read the story already so I will keep it short. A little over a year ago a Casino in Vegas was bought out and they were running some really good promotions 3 to 5 days a month. I was actually playing reels during the promotion period and you could earn 9000 points to max out for the day but it took me a couple days to realize they let you go over and use the points each day. This means you could bank all the points till the next point day. So on the promotion day you could earn 11x to 16x points with no max. At that time the card was worth .25% so on an 11x day you were getting 2.75% added to the game and the game was 97.5% return. The promotion added another 3% and you kept the points. So without counting mail, comps and other extras you were playing at 103% to 105% just to push the button and spin the reels with only the top jackpot to slow you down. Needless to say I was playing constantly on those point days. I also had another player helping me. After it was all said and done I earned apprx. 125 per hour per machine just spinning the reels. This went on for months and I only seen one other pro playing during the daytime. I only played at night from around 8pm to 8am. I tried to tell others about it but they didn't have much interest. One known player did get on it for the last two months and was telling me how good it was. I was telling him I have been telling you about this for 4 months and now your telling me how good it is?

Before that I spent a couple months at another Casino that gave FP DB 100.17 from the jump and added a 3k bonus to quarter royals if you hit two in 24 hours. I played an average of 15 hours a day for over a month at that place and ended up over 20k for the month. I was close to up 30k when I gave up on the play when they changed the promotion.

Right before that DT had a promotion on double royals and other goodies that netted me close to 100k playing hours upon hours daily. This took playing almost every day for a year or so.

This doesn't even factor in the plays years ago when FP machines were everywhere and the club was just giving away the money.

I guess my point is that players who tell you the only way to win is to leave with the money when your up have never been in on an ongoing promotion just basically picking up free money every day or have never played on machines that are giving you a point glitch or running crazy bonus coin promotions. Of course you do need to have time and the more hands the better with proper play. However on some plays it gets really silly how good they are that even the ploppies can crush the game playing poor strategy. I will agree that you need hand count and time. I have always said things start to break right at 100k coin and IME I have never seen the numbers go wrong after a million coin in. OTOH hand they might know all about this but don't want to share the information and instead post false information to dissuade players. I can see that. I mean just Robs post about Cash Back and Mail and Promotions have nothing to do with winning is an interesting example. That is crazy talk in my mind.

I suppose things are different with me as well in that I have no "agenda" in my posting. I am not trying to get anyone to sign up to my website or read my book or anything like that. I am not trying to get street cred to get on a team or find partners. I am just sharing personal experiences of my last 20+ years in Vegas and I suppose some of it is gratifying my Ego.

Interesting Side Note... I seen Alan hit the Jackpot at Sams Town for 21k and some change and took the big photo op. I was the player who hit the one prior on that same bank for 24,985 but I didn't take the photo op. I did post the pic on WoV for a short period. The difference is that I was playing on point days and only certain amount of coin in. I wasn't just falling into the game after some fun playing Dice.

[mickeycrimm]

Monet, Alan posts false information alright but not to mislead anyone about strong plays. He actually believes the stuff he writes about winning and losing.

[tableplay]

Monet, it was nice of Sam's Town to award you an extra 7 cents.

[monet]

Monet, it was nice of Sam's Town to award you an extra 7 cents.

I suppose it depends on how you look at it. I don't like the fact they rob you of 55 dollars every time you make a straight flush. I hit 3 of them so that is 165 dollars they keep. I started on that bank playing on point days and everyone knows that you max out of 10k coin in but you can spread that play out wide. So I started on that bank around 24,300 or so. I ended up playing over a 2 week period and put in just over 14 hours. I was down 9200 or so when I hit it with an 80 dollar tip I came out ahead in cash around 15,200. The win was more so in the card with points, mail, comp and what not. However anyone in this town knows that Sams Town is not a very good place to play anymore. They got pretty upset about getting crushed on the Young At Heart Promo and they basically took almost all the 100% + plays out. Not that they still don't have some playable machines... they just have really cut up the value. I live close by so it was nice to play there 10 to 20 years ago but you really don't have good reason to play with them since they converted all the mail together now with Boyd in Vegas. I prefer Fremont or Cal by far over them.

Although, the Fremont pays to the penny... no rounding up 7 cents on those jackpots over there!! One thing you should remember when you play with Boyd if you do not know... you should always go ask the host or slot manager for a Comp within 24 hours of your play. This is a bit stronger when you show a loss since you can get a larger comp. It doesn't hurt your comp in my experience to ask for a pack or two of cigarettes either when you play each session. You can get up to two packs max per day when you play over 2000 coin in for the first and usually 10k of coin in is strong enough to get 2 packs depending on what property and who is working. I don't smoke but I know people who do. Personally Boyd is a little different in each property but it doesn't hurt to ask for things and it is always better if you can show a loss. They don't give me any problems these days but when I would just play smaller coin in they would give me a hard time when I hit jackpots. They were always willing to give me anything if I was showing a loss.

Anyone who knows knows that this is called a courtesy comp. I also find that if your Hawaiian or Asian they treat you a little nicer at these DT properties as well. My wife is Asian and they are always nicer to her compared to me being a Gweilo.

[tableplay]

Monet, it was nice of Sam's Town to award you an extra 7 cents.

They got pretty upset about getting crushed on the Young At Heart Promo and they basically took almost all the 100% + plays out. Not that they still don't have some playable machines... they just have really cut up the value. I live close by so it was nice to play there 10 to 20 years ago but you really don't have good reason to play with them since they converted all the mail together now with Boyd in Vegas. I prefer Fremont or Cal by far over them.

Cool, thanks for the tips. You must have been in heaven back when they (Sam's Town) had ace line OEJ. I heard it got burnt out pretty quick though.

[monet]

Cool, thanks for the tips. You must have been in heaven back when they (Sam's Town) had ace line OEJ. I heard it got burnt out pretty quick though.

I missed that one. I think your talking about Ace Invaders One Eyed Jacks or some game similar to that. A friend of mine was hooked on Multi Strike when it first came out all over town and other cities as well. I seen him hit 3 and 4 thousand dollar jackpots and run right over to MS and dump it all back. He loved that game... he was really hooked on that Multi Strike Super Times Pay and played it a lot at the El Cortez on point days. It took them years before they decided to change the pay tables. I tend to play more straight forward boring games that don't have as much variance. I never play Ultimate X or games like that... I don't even take the time to vulch them.

I just meant in general that Sams Town for a very long time was a very good place to play FP VP or a bunch of Progressive VP and the card was good and mail and all that. It is safe to say that all over Vegas it was like this and they just got smarter and had enough of players having the edge on them. However, just in Vegas alone in the last 3 years players have had enough good things and continue to find plays but I just think it is more difficult and just for instance think about the Stations Casino... they put an individual camera on every kiosk and we all know why they are tracking that don't we?

As I noted before in the last 3 years we have had things like:

Double Royal Promo
6 Swipes for 3 Glitch
3k Chase The Royal Bonus
Young At Heart (Free Money Run 80 Card Promo)

These weren't that long ago and I it always seems something always comes down the pipeline next. I think the most important thing is to not get 86'd or No Mailed.

[tableplay]

Cool, thanks for the tips. You must have been in heaven back when they (Sam's Town) had ace line OEJ. I heard it got burnt out pretty quick though.

I missed that one. I think your talking about Ace Invaders One Eyed Jacks or some game similar to that. A friend of mine was hooked on Multi Strike when it first came out all over town and other cities as well. I seen him hit 3 and 4 thousand dollar jackpots and run right over to MS and dump it all back. He loved that game... he was really hooked on that Multi Strike Super Times Pay and played it a lot at the El Cortez on point days. It took them years before they decided to change the pay tables. I tend to play more straight forward boring games that don't have as much variance. I never play Ultimate X or games like that... I don't even take the time to vulch them.

I just meant in general that Sams Town for a very long time was a very good place to play FP VP or a bunch of Progressive VP and the card was good and mail and all that. It is safe to say that all over Vegas it was like this and they just got smarter and had enough of players having the edge on them. However, just in Vegas alone in the last 3 years players have had enough good things and continue to find plays but I just think it is more difficult and just for instance think about the Stations Casino... they put an individual camera on every kiosk and we all know why they are tracking that don't we?

As I noted before in the last 3 years we have had things like:

Double Royal Promo
6 Swipes for 3 Glitch
3k Chase The Royal Bonus
Young At Heart (Free Money Run 80 Card Promo)

These weren't that long ago and I it always seems something always comes down the pipeline next. I think the most important thing is to not get 86'd or No Mailed.

Yes, there's always great stuff in the offing, especially as more and more casinos get built.
Wow, Ace Invaders OEJ, that's insane. Anyway here is the game I am talking about:

[dannyj]

First royal of the new year. Once again on quarters after getting off dollars.

[mickeycrimm]

Cool, thanks for the tips. You must have been in heaven back when they (Sam's Town) had ace line OEJ. I heard it got burnt out pretty quick though.

I missed that one. I think your talking about Ace Invaders One Eyed Jacks or some game similar to that. A friend of mine was hooked on Multi Strike when it first came out all over town and other cities as well. I seen him hit 3 and 4 thousand dollar jackpots and run right over to MS and dump it all back. He loved that game... he was really hooked on that Multi Strike Super Times Pay and played it a lot at the El Cortez on point days. It took them years before they decided to change the pay tables. I tend to play more straight forward boring games that don't have as much variance. I never play Ultimate X or games like that... I don't even take the time to vulch them.

I just meant in general that Sams Town for a very long time was a very good place to play FP VP or a bunch of Progressive VP and the card was good and mail and all that. It is safe to say that all over Vegas it was like this and they just got smarter and had enough of players having the edge on them. However, just in Vegas alone in the last 3 years players have had enough good things and continue to find plays but I just think it is more difficult and just for instance think about the Stations Casino... they put an individual camera on every kiosk and we all know why they are tracking that don't we?

As I noted before in the last 3 years we have had things like:

Double Royal Promo
6 Swipes for 3 Glitch
3k Chase The Royal Bonus
Young At Heart (Free Money Run 80 Card Promo)

These weren't that long ago and I it always seems something always comes down the pipeline next. I think the most important thing is to not get 86'd or No Mailed.

Yes, there's always great stuff in the offing, especially as more and more casinos get built.
Wow, Ace Invaders OEJ, that's insane. Anyway here is the game I am talking about:

Please don't show me the strategy to this game. It will give me a headache just thinking about having to master it.

[tableplay]

Please don't show me the strategy to this game. It will give me a headache just thinking about having to master it.

I've never found this one (ace line) in the wild Mickey. The 100.28% game (no ace line) is around though. IMHO the strategy for the 100.28 game was worth learning (I'm pretty sure the ace line version is even more complicated), so if you change your mind, let me know (if you have a running copy of Wolf Video Poker [not to be confused with Frugal VP] you can generate it also for the non-Ace-line game). I'm not sure a human being can play the strategy perfectly - I certainly can't anyway (but close enough to achieve my free play and comp objectives), maybe others here can.