So... in my last six trips I'm up $9000+ and left. That's the math I like.
And it even worked playing craps two weeks ago because I knew when to walk out. That was good math and money management too.
Criticize this way of playing all you want.
So... in my last six trips I'm up $9000+ and left. That's the math I like.
And it even worked playing craps two weeks ago because I knew when to walk out. That was good math and money management too.
Criticize this way of playing all you want.
Let's see if I have Alan's logic correct. He got lucky which he translates into proof that all the world's mathematicians are idiots. OK, got it.
No. I got lucky and was smart enough not to put it back. And you can get lucky often.
A benefit of cashing out while you're ahead...
http://news.msn.com/offbeat/slot-mac...-police-arrive
Oops....link isn't working right. I'll try again.
Can't seem to get this to work easily, but if you click on the link and within that page do a search (in the news) for "slot machine" and then click on the second article about a German man.
Oh, nevermind! Lol
Now that's REALLY pressing the button at the right millisecond!
Once again you seem to be claiming that you can get better cards simply by planning on cashing out at a later time. Meanwhile, the rest of humanity is faced with getting cards at the normal distribution from the RNG. Not Alan the magnificent ... he is special.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Once again, are you insane? My decision to cash out a profit or stop playing after I hit a loss limit is nothing more than a decision to leave with a profit or to leave with an affordable loss. What is all of this other gibberish?Originally Posted by arcimede$
Those of us who play video poker know that there are times when we can be ahead. I choose to stop playing when ahead. It does not challenge or control the math of the game. If anything it follows the ideas of:
1. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
2. Lose no more than you are comfortable losing.
As far as your rant about math and RNGs and whatever I have to ask: WTF are you smoking?
I certainly won't criticize this and I am looking forward to you and Rob eventually gracing the pages of the Forbes 400 list as you guys keep climbing skywards with VP cashouts & winnings. Good luck!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Last edited by Count Room; 10-01-2014 at 11:15 AM.
I was back at Rincon this morning to use $425 of free play which included my October bounce back money. I cashed out $500 after being as high as $640. Did I alter the pay tables? No. Did I alter probability? No. All I did was hit the cash out button because I had a profit that made the trip worthwhile.
You math guys have a real problem.
You really didn't win Alan. Are you insane??? Trust the math. Respect the math. Understand the math. Then you will realize that the cash in your pocket is only a mirage.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Alan, Because you play correct strategy you are by definition a math guy.
Did you fail reading comprehension 101?Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I am smoking reality. One can only wonder why you continue to denial reality. Why do you continue to state all the mathematicians in the world are wrong?Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Arc let me ask you to explain this slowly: if I cash out profits and by cashing out profits I increase my gaming bankroll how does this violate the math of the game or make mathematics and mathematicians wrong? Please explain simply and in detail.
Why do you continue to obfuscate this issue. I've already told you at least a dozen times that I don't care when you cash out. That is not the question. The question is does the timing of when you stop playing (cash out) affect your gambling return over time. Every mathematician in the world will tell you the answer is NO. However,you keep claiming it will make a difference to your long term results. Why you insist on claiming to be smarter than every mathematician in the world is beyond me. You are making a complete fool of yourself.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I truly doubt you speak for the mathematicians of the world because you can't separate "expected return" from "actual return."Originally Posted by arcimede$
The reality is that when you hit the cash out button is ALL that matters.
Playing a positive expectation machine does not guarantee a win while playing a negative expectation win does not guarantee a loss.
If I sit down at a negative expectation game such as 9/6 Jacks or Better, and hit two pair on the first play and cash out I will have an actual return of 200% on a game with an expected return of 99.6%.
If video poker machines are truly random there is no reason not to think that you can have a winning session each and every time you play even if the pay table is negative.
The mathematicians will agree with me. You are a pompous ass and can't see the reality of what I am saying and what I think everyone else can see as well.
The theoretical math while correct is not a self fulfilling prophecy. You can win and walk away with a profit if you let yourself walk away with that profit.
The day you can guarantee that I will have a profit playing a positive expectation game is the day when I will abandon this idea.
Doesn't matter how many different ways you say it Alan. Arci is still going to be like Tatoo on Fantasy Island.
BOSS...DE MATH...DE MATH...
No--he got lucky and took the $$$ before the math police caught up with him.Originally Posted by arcimede$
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