Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[Alan Mendelson]

Dante Jason was the big stack when they chopped. He got the title, the bracelet and the photo and credit in Card Player Magazine. I provided the link. Stuff it.

[Dan Druff]

Dante Jason was the big stack when they chopped. He got the title, the bracelet and the photo and credit in Card Player Magazine. I provided the link. Stuff it.

This is actually VERY common in smaller buyin tournaments. This is because the structure of the tournament isn't good enough to allow for much skill-based play in the late stages (due to the huge blinds), and it just becomes a card-catching luckfest at that point. For this reason, the players often tend to take the luck out of the equation, and agree to a chop when there's 3-7 people left.

If Jason was the big stack when they chopped, indeed he has the right to say he "won", even if the tournament didn't play to full completion.

Now... there was an incident in 2006 where Liz Lieu "bought" 1st place: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=16307

Notice she got paid $40k for first, and the guy in 2nd got $52k! How was that possible? She was looking to get poker sponsorships, but hadn't won any tournaments yet, as she was more a cash player. When it got down to the final 2, she offered the other guy to take 1st place money if she could be declared the winner, even though he had 60% of the chips on the table! He agreed, and the tournament was ended.

You will notice I finished 7th in that tournament, which is why I paid attention to the whole thing. I publicly called Liz out about this, and she was furious about it. I didn't care, though, as she had always treated me poorly at the Commerce cash games, so it didn't matter what she thought of me. It just bothered me that the "winner" at my final table bought her title instead of winning it.

[Rob.Singer]

For the record, I never doubed Alan's 10 royals. Alan has never lied out here to my knowledge. He's not like Rob "Mr. 100k" Singer in that respect.

Alan hasn't, but you have. You're bothered by the fact that he hit yet another royal with freeplay, on a "negative" pay table....you name it. In fact, you seem to be "bothered" by just about everything in your life. Lose much?

[ThomasClines]

Alan hasn't...

Meh.

A lot of gambler's fallacy, and, not telling us everything.

[Dan Druff]

Alan hasn't, but you have. You're bothered by the fact that he hit yet another royal with freeplay, on a "negative" pay table....you name it. In fact, you seem to be "bothered" by just about everything in your life. Lose much?

I'm not bothered at all that Alan won. I'd much rather see him get the money than the casino.

[Rob.Singer]

You have shown time and again that you get irritated by other people winning. Again, probably not how you want it to be but alas, it is. I'd love to play you like a fiddle in live poker. You're easier to read than the list of free ingredients that go into a sandwich at Subway.

[Dan Druff]

You have shown time and again that you get irritated by other people winning. Again, probably not how you want it to be but alas, it is. I'd love to play you like a fiddle in live poker. You're easier to read than the list of free ingredients that go into a sandwich at Subway.

Okay, where can we meet to play poker? Commerce? Bellagio? Let's get this set up.

Pretty sure we will get more excuses, just like we always get from Rob when he challenges people and they call his bluff.

[ThomasClines]

https://www.google.com/search?q=vide...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Why doesn't Alan put together a good VP quiz, reworked from links such as the above?

[coach belly]

How about Alan puts together a heads-up poker game between Rob Singer and Dan Druff?

After all...the gauntlet has been thrown down by both competitors.

[Alan Mendelson]

How about Alan puts together a heads-up poker game between Rob Singer and Dan Druff?

This would be a good idea. And it would give me a chance to collect the lunch/dinner that Rob owes me over the stock market bet.

Chances of it happening? Well, I would put those odds about the same as finding the magical video poker machine print outs in the storage unit in New Mexico (or wherever it was).

Besides that, Rob does not play live poker. I don't think he even knows how. I think he might think a "player in the blind" needs someone to whisper in his ear what the cards are.

Okay, where can we meet to play poker? Commerce? Bellagio? Let's get this set up.

How about in Rob's RV?? Jason could be the dealer. He is a licensed dealer and was a part time dealer at Hollywood Park Casino.

[Rob.Singer]

Okay, where can we meet to play poker? Commerce? Bellagio? Let's get this set up.

Pretty sure we will get more excuses, just like we always get from Rob when he challenges people and they call his bluff.

You already know I'm in Oregon right now and headed for Minn., so how about meeting me up there. And what in the world is "Commerce"?.

I don't expect much from you Todd, except that you're a shoe-in to drag along that one-parent son and some "girlfriend" of a forty-something along with you again. What do you guys call them when you're in your 80's anyway?

I notice you stayed away from the financial end. Why's that? Oh yes, since you'll never be able to make 7-Stars again or even diamond, it's not a good idea to talk smack along with money simultaneously.

So set it up properly this time.....or am I just another of those who seem to be "doing you wrong" again?

[Count Room]

Okay, where can we meet to play poker? Commerce? Bellagio? Let's get this set up.

Pretty sure we will get more excuses, just like we always get from Rob when he challenges people and they call his bluff.

Make sure it's an Allen Kessler approved blind structure so it isn't a simple luck of the draw, haha!

[Count Room]

You already know I'm in Oregon right now and headed for Minn., so how about meeting me up there. And what in the world is "Commerce"?.

Commerce is a popular California poker room, I believe..

[coach belly]

You already know I'm in Oregon right now and headed for Minn.

OK so it looks like Alan has his work cut out for him.

It won't be easy, but c'mon Alan, you can do it...we're all counting on you.

[Alan Mendelson]

Commerce is the biggest poker casino in the world, and has more seats and tables in action than any other casino -- anywhere -- including Vegas.

This challenge will never happen. Rob can't play poker.

[Count Room]

This challenge will never happen. Rob can't play poker.

Alan: What if Rob offered to wager against you that he would go forward with the challenge? Would you take the bet if the amount Rob wagered against you was equal to or greater than any possible amount he may wager against Dan?

[Alan Mendelson]

I know a lot about poker, and I'm a decent player. I will tell you this: in the short term anything can happen. Which means a no-nothing player can win.

When Jason won that tournament at Hollywood Park, the girl he was dating showed up and also played in the tournament. She had NEVER played poker before -- and never was in a tournament. She did, however, play video poker so she understood the value of hands, etc. She had no idea how to bet or how the game Texas Hold'em was played but she caught on quickly. She finished 33rd in the tournament. 137 players entered the tournament. That meant she outlasted 104 others who probably not only knew how to play, but played in many tournaments and may have played poker for years and years.

So Count Room if you are asking me to bet against Rob in one session of poker play I will tell you this: it would have to be for a small, token bet, such as double or nothing on that lunch/dinner he owes me. But if the bet covered years and dozens of sessions of play then yes, I would take any bet against me or Dan.

[Count Room]

So Count Room if you are asking me to bet against Rob in one session of poker play I will tell you this: it would have to be for a small, token bet, such as double or nothing on that lunch/dinner he owes me. But if the bet covered years and dozens of sessions of play then yes, I would take any bet against me or Dan.

Alan: Yes, I thoroughly understand the short-term luck vs. long-term skill argument you are trying to convey, but I didn't quite mean what you think.

I saw a possible scenario where Rob could create a freeroll for himself by wagering against you that he would participate in the challenge against Dan (since you said it would never happen).

If Rob privately bet $10,000 against you that he would participate and $8,000 against Dan that he would win the challenge....on the stipulation that the amounts were kept private from each other, it would be win-win for Rob there, wouldn't it? (at least 2 grand)

[Dan Druff]

You already know I'm in Oregon right now and headed for Minn., so how about meeting me up there. And what in the world is "Commerce"?.

I don't expect much from you Todd, except that you're a shoe-in to drag along that one-parent son and some "girlfriend" of a forty-something along with you again. What do you guys call them when you're in your 80's anyway?

I notice you stayed away from the financial end. Why's that? Oh yes, since you'll never be able to make 7-Stars again or even diamond, it's not a good idea to talk smack along with money simultaneously.

So set it up properly this time.....or am I just another of those who seem to be "doing you wrong" again?

This is actually hilarious how first you brag about your poker skill, and then you ask, "What in the world is Commerce?"

That's like straight out of a sitcom.

I'm also not understanding your attempts at insulting the situation with my girlfriend and son. The mother of my son is my girlfriend. We have been together for over 5 years. The only difference between us and a married couple is that we haven't gone through a formal marriage ceremony. Maybe a relationship is only valid to Rob if you are married and constantly drag your wife around the country on a casino tour in a trailer.

[Rob.Singer]

Yeah Dan, blah blah blah about your non-family situation. Middle-aged losers like you will say anything to feel good about this.

I don't regularly play live poker but I KNOW I can make you squirm in your chair, whining about some misjustice while you give away your hands without realizing any of it.

The casinos should be thrilled that I won't be back in Nevada until May or June. Can you imagine that?--actually having a life that isn't controlled by casino trips and visits while pretending the "girlfriend" likes everything you do for entertainment?