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  1. #41
    Alan, you can see from the tone of Singer's reply that he has nothing. It's like everything else with this guy. I ask him for the address of his supposedly big house ... he can't provide it. Several of us ask for the papers that support his system he promised last October ... nowhere to be seen. He even repeats several of his lies about me ... that's a dead giveaway he's in full panic mode. Recently he made claims about machines he supposedly got from some casino exec ... yet, he can't provide you the guys name when you ask. And for a good reason.

    All winter he's been claiming he's been in Reno/Tahoe area when he actually rented an apartment in Scottsdale in November. There is absolutely nothing he says that can be trusted. Now, do you still believe he won a million dollars? Why would anyone? All he does is lie.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by arcimede$ View Post
    Now, do you still believe he won a million dollars?
    Yes. Because one thing has nothing to do with another.

    I've said this before: winning nearly a hundred thousand a year over a ten year period playing for the most part at the $10 level and playing with a win goal system is perfectly believable and doable. That doesn't mean other things haven't been embellished along the way, but I don't care where the guy lives and it's really none of our business. As far as the claims about rigged machines go -- I'm still waiting to see the "proof" just as you are but even that does not nullify the ability to use win goals -- or even his special plays -- to win at video poker. And let me just add, while for the most part I reject the special plays, a few of them make sense to me -- and to other players as well -- especially when dealt trip aces in certain games.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Yes. Because one thing has nothing to do with another.
    Oh but they do. every one of them is an ego trip. Big house, expensive cars, trips to exotic places, and finally big wins ... They are all based on a person trying to promote an image of themselves. If several of them turn out to be false you can be almost guaranteed they all are.

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I've said this before: winning nearly a hundred thousand a year over a ten year period playing for the most part at the $10 level and playing with a win goal system is perfectly believable and doable.
    The average bet of his system is far below $10. Simple math. The odds of him accomplishing this feat on negative machines, whose return is even more than the ones he has mentioned playing on, is around .03%. That is not "perfectly believable and doable". It is extremely unlikely. So, when you have someone who has proved beyond any doubt that he will lie about his life and accomplishments why would anyone believe something this unlikely?

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    That doesn't mean other things haven't been embellished along the way, but I don't care where the guy lives and it's really none of our business. As far as the claims about rigged machines go -- I'm still waiting to see the "proof" just as you are but even that does not nullify the ability to use win goals -- or even his special plays -- to win at video poker. And let me just add, while for the most part I reject the special plays, a few of them make sense to me -- and to other players as well -- especially when dealt trip aces in certain games.
    Alan, they only "make sense" to you because that is the way you WANT to play. If you were a logical person you would realize your wants aren't always going to be right. It's fine to play in whatever manner you WANT, however don't confuse that with making sense.

  4. #44
    Alan, please keep pushing arci over the edge--see how much fun it is when it happens!

    Oh, remember the picture of our RV I sent you from S. Dakota with the SD plates? Why don't you post it so arci can feel bad. And there's a member here with the handle of damule I believe. That's Jim Sepe from Phoenix. He's a critic of my vp play but he sent me a comment or two after watching the video of my house and some of my cars. He & arci are buddies on videopoker.com when it comes to lots of vp things, but he's honest and he'll make arci's lies look stupid and envious. Oh, and Cindy & I are STILL waiting for a call to our RV park here in Minden. Care to see your world fall apart some more arci!

    One small note if you please Alan. You see, this is the way to handle arci and all his lies. One quick post that makes a direct hit - then pull out for a bit and watch him bury himself some more. He has oodles of time, as we all know and enjoy, as he sits there suffering the consequences of his past, so as a forum addict he actually has no choice but to serve up another batch of insults about you and lies about me and himself. Soon you'll come to have a good time with all this. Why not use him and his neurotic and anal tendencies in a way to mock him no end? Oh what FUN!!
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 02-02-2013 at 12:04 PM.

  5. #45
    So Rob, where did you get the info about how Dancer and the Wizard did on that Riviera promotion?

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    So Rob, where did you get the info about how Dancer and the Wizard did on that Riviera promotion?
    From Dancer's column as did redietz. Then like I said, from reading some threads after the thread about what Wizard said about his income coming mostly from ads, was sent to me. I have no idea where to find anything so specific on that forum. And also like I said, just the fact that arci questions it tells you he read it, just like he found my N.Phoenix address in his endless searching. Does he strike you as the type of person who'll ever admit to being wrong or stupid? Just look at what he's forced to live thru these days and for the rest of his days, really. Would that not make you a conflicted, angry, unhappy old man?

    Wait Alan! How about doing this? Arci is a member there and when I tried to locate the Wizard's input about that promo I saw your name as a member somewhere. So since arci is afraid to do any of his exhausted searches--or so he says--why don't you send Wizard a pm and ask!
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 02-02-2013 at 12:17 PM.

  7. #47
    I am a member there and I don't recall seeing anything that said he lost money. And, it's none of my business. A good gambler or bettor or businessman can lose money on a particular event or deal. And that's happened to you too, Rob.

    I read Dancer's column... several times... and he too might have lost money. So what.

    Of more importance, Rob, is the "evidence" that you say you are sitting on that video poker machines are rigged (not really random). Now that is is something I want to see.

  8. #48
    I don't believe it would be asking him something personal when he's talked about the promo's results in his own forum. But it also looks like he was angry enuf to abruptly quit the show from Dancer writing about it and making him look so stupid for being roped into it as a financial partner. BTW it was a 50-50 deal so what one did so did the other. So who knows? Yet a pm to Wizard could simply ask and say if he deemed it too personal you would understand. All bases covered. I'd ask if I were a member. The alternative to not asking? Watching arci continue spinning the content of Dancer's scathing column about the promo into them "winning" and giving credence to Dancer lying about it on vpFree after I got under his skin about it.

    Come to think about it--I like it! Watching arci's pathological lies being repeated are all part of the F-U-N factor here!

    Yes Alan, "not really random"--not "rigged".
    Again, the simulations show a disparity in fifth card flipover rate as nearly double what the math says it should be. I have a summary sheet as well as a thich stack of test papers with all the individual details. Would seeing that PROVE the non-randomness to you enough to endorse the finding? Yes...or no? Nv. Gaming would not look at it. Wizard and his batch of braniacs would not look at it. Arci would, but then he'd claim I produced it all to my liking somehow with photoshop or whatever people use to create false documentation. So again, would you publish it as fact after seeing it for yourself? Then, just as with the problem with the SPS background, we still have to wait until I get a chance to go to Casa Grande south of Phx., which I WILL get since we're going to Pioneer RV park outside of Phx. on Nov. 1st for 5 months to be nearby family for the holidays, grandchildren's birthdays, and the winter of course.

  9. #49
    Rob, I would publish anything you have because I want everyone to be able to see it and make up their own minds about it. I also want to give you an opportunity to express your ideas and I don't think anyone should censor you.

    But I said this before: when you gave back the machine you gave away the evidence that would hold up in court. Your records, your print outs, your experience won't hold up as true evidence. Still. I would publish them just as I would publish all comments critical of your data.

  10. #50
    OK, and I've never had any interest in involving courts anyway. The "gambling system" would crush anything they didn't want out there, which is why the NGC didn't even want to see or discuss it. Right now, you want to believe what you read which is what the state allows you to see, and you've never once asked for proof of any kind because that's the easy way for gamblers, even though you know it's impossible to verify anything on your own without a machine to test. Plus this is the casino business--not a children's hospital or a Catholic confessional. What on earth makes you want to believe whatever they tell you, when Wall Street, banks, energy companies, the US Gov't. etc. etc. etc. thrive on lies, corruption, dishonesty, and immorality?

    This is very similar to your idolizing of Obama by giving him pass after pass and happily looking the other way when you KNOW & SEE all the disingenuous things he and his people do and how he absolutely hates Isreal & Jewish people (and proves it time and again by all the slights and digs he takes at Isreal along with his veiled support of the Palestinian cause) after being mentored for 20 years by a white & Jew-hating preacher he swore by before getting caught. You have to look closer at suspicious "facts" in order to understand the truth. That's why I went after a machine to test. And that's exactly why the gambling world's foremost consultant, Mike Shackleford, suddenly refused to even look at my test results when his website always advertised how he'd review anything that might verify vp machine non-randomness. It would seriously hurt his livelihood if such a thing were made public. Same goes for my response from the NGC. And just how do you think a hack like arci would react? It would make his whole Internet-created house of AP cards come crashing down. AND THEN what do you think he would do with his life?
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 02-02-2013 at 03:45 PM.

  11. #51
    More lies to try and cover up for his previous lies. Alan, I'd think you'd get tired of them by now. It's beyond obvious. This is all making this forum look silly.

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    OK, and I've never had any interest in involving courts anyway.
    It's not a matter of involving the courts, it's just that when you have evidence that will stand up in court the evidence becomes more compelling.

    We all have "stories" that raise suspicions that slot machines and video poker machines are not truly random. Heck, sometimes I feel that the dealer at live poker pulled a card from the bottom of the deck when someone makes a remarkable draw against me. But the reality is, the games are not rigged and the dealer didn't deal from the bottom of the deck -- we just think that way as a defense mechanism.

    Ironically, though, I think if you surveyed most casino-goers they would not say that video poker machines are random. My guess is most casino goers think that video poker is "fixed" like slot machines. However, the "audience" is different here on this website and most other gaming websites in that we know more.

    Rob -- if you published articles again in some newspapers or magazines you might have many, many readers who agree with you about what you claim about fifth card flipovers or machines not being random, etc. You have a tougher audience here, however.

    I am asking you to provide the info for the "tougher audience." Maybe they swallowed it at Gaming Today -- I don't know. Were you ever challenged at Gaming Today? But here, I am going to ask you to give me your best case. And when I say evidence that would stand up and be acceptable in court, I am only saying give me the best evidence you can. You have a tough fight on your hands. Unlike your critics I am willing to give you a chance to prove your case. In fact, if you proved your case right here I will be very proud to say that I allowed you to prove your case and I wasn't afraid to give you the chance to show us the truth. Just show it if you've got it.

  13. #53
    When I said OK that meant that I'll get you the paperwork to review, but as I said, I'll get it when I can be in Phx. starting Nov. 1st, just as I will the SPS support. To be clear, that means you'll absolutely have it between when we get the rig down there and when we leave for Oregon & S. Dakota again on April 1st. I'm sorry our schedule didn't allow for me to get anything this past fall but you do know I'm sure, my family comes first. After all, you don't really want me to end up in a dead-end retirement like arci, do you.

    I'm understanding what you mean by evidence being most compelling if it can stand up in court. Maybe mine could, I don't know because I never thought of it that way. But short of a court stamp of approval, do you think a hack like arci will ever accept anything that'll prove he's been talking nothing but stupid smack since he became an AP vp addict? If you were to accept my findings as real or if you just looked at the papers and said anything positive about what I did, he'll go out of his way to slander you on forums that don't even care about the issue even more than he does here. He has no other choice to if he wants to keep his sanity, and it's because this video poker stuff is the driver behind every single moment in his life. Disturb it, coupled with how he's wrecked any meaningful retirement, and you'll have one angry, grumpy, terribly conflicted pathological liar on you hands. But if you can deal with it, I can!
    Gaming Today constantly checked everything I wrote, they challenged me a lot my first year, and the publisher even required to sit by me as I played a session -- which I said I'd never do because of the distraction factor -- early on. But as fate would have it, I hit a royal on dollars of all things in the first 400 credits I played. We were doing it at Terribles in LV. I picked the place because they had five level $1 thru $25 machines. But Chuck saw this, he knew I had to quit with better than a $3700 profit, he saw my session bankroll of $57,200 when I normally only carried $17,200 and went to the bank for the other $40k if I had to play the $100 machines on the Strip, and he saw I knew what I was doing. He couldn't have been happier and then HE took ME out for dinner at Prime in Bellagio.

    We're leaving early in the AM for the railroad museum and to go to a Super Bowl party, where I made an uninteresting (to me) game interesting by the $2k bet on SF (SF -4). Then my wife's birthday is Monday so we're staying at the Marriott in Carson City (arci, call us anytime ) and then going to Virginia City and Truckee per her request for the day. So if there's any more questions I'll be back on Tues. In the meantime, please join arci in wishing me the best of luck in the game, and a very, very happy and healthy birthday for Cindy!
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 02-02-2013 at 10:16 PM.

  14. #54
    Alan, you know when you get a long drawn out essay filled with obvious projections that Singer is BSing you. You'll get those documents just like you got the last ones ... never.

    This was the most telling projection ... "you'll have one angry, grumpy, terribly conflicted pathological liar on you hands". That's Singer's life in a nutshell.

  15. #55
    I know this thread is old but its the REASON why I joined here.

    M.S. is a goof, at best. I will say this, the guy knows his gambling VERY well, I'll never take that away from him. As for the WoV forum? Thats another story. The most BIAS message board I have ever seen. If you post something there (politely) and MS and his CREW do not agree with you, watch out, you will get attacked from all sides. Either go along with the masses or you're gone, its that simple.

    A poor excuse on how to run a board. They have a roulette section there....but......dont post anything regarding it. Huh? Do me a favor MS, get rid of the roulette section (I believe its a systems section in general) if the only thing a thread author is gonna get is a pie in the face.

    Another thing......bannings. The RULES for who gets banned is NOT the same for everyone, different rules for different people. The board is a joke, all a bunch of robots. No individual thought allowed. (lol)

    Ken

  16. #56
    Hi mr jjj thanks for joining us and for your post and we all look forward to your participation here.

  17. #57
    I'm going to make a rather uninformed comment here, but it's a caveat, so bear with me.

    I have never met Shackleford, have never inhabited his board. He clearly knows his numbers. But occasionally, especially in the academic world, one encounters people you think are absolutely brilliant. Usually they look brilliant when they're talking about subjects with which they are expert and you are not. Then, occasionally, they happen to broach a subject at which YOU are expert, and suddenly your opinion of them is brought to a screeching halt as you realize, when they have entered your field, that they really lack all sophistication.

    I suspect when people who are good at one thing, say pure statistical analysis or blackjack, try to expand their expertise to other things, say sports betting or poker, they come off trying to sound like experts and they generally fail miserably. As Clint Eastwood said in that Dirty Harry film, "A man's got to know his limitations." I have no idea why people try to be jacks/geniuses-of-all-trades, but they do.

    Anyway, I would never match my grad school math GREs against Shackleford's. But he does people a disservice when he steps outside what he REALLY knows and tries to be a professional every-subject gambler without providing a disclaimer that he knows A, B, and C really well, and D and E not so well.

    I think when he has ventured into sports/race and Dancer's vp world, he has drunk his own Kool-Aid, so to speak. He's a mathematician. That has its limits.

  18. #58
    I had a "slight dispute" with Michael and his moderators over a legal issue -- not a math issue. They were wrong on the law.

  19. #59
    That sounds interesting. Anything you'd care to share?

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    That sounds interesting. Anything you'd care to share?
    It involved the legal obligations of a forum host to question or remove or challenge libelous comments made by a member of the forum. I reminded them of their obligation and they stood behind the "right of free speech" and allowed the libelous comments to stand, unchallenged. They are wrong -- there is no free speech in the case of libel but it is their website and they will have to deal with the consequences when and if the libeled party takes action. (It wasn't me, by the way, and I did not have a personal stake in the discussion or the libelous comments.)

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