All or Nothing

[Rob.Singer]

Rob their switchboard closed at 10-PM so I'll call in the morning. But I don't understand the point? I accept that you are there and that you are driving this giant depreciating asset and that you are retired and traveling around as RVers do. Can you give us an update on gas prices there? That would be useful.

They re-open at 6 or 6:30am and thank you in advance. I know you believe me. I ask that after verifying you please post it and then maybe arci will stop lying about this mythical Scottsdale apartment we're supposedly living in, and he might even accept that we used to live in the house in my videos while keeping a nearby side apartment for my son and his family while he was in Iraq & Afghanistan. He claims to be "all facts" yet he never wants to check anything or admit when he's wrong. And I think the credibility factor on these issues says a lot about what he says about video poker vs. what I've been saying.

I like the "giant depreciating asset" angle. The way I look at it, you're absolutely right, but there's no way this thing depreciates as fast as the house we bought for $550k did when it tumbled to a $260k value when we left it. So this is an improvement!

Fuel is another story. It doesn't matter what I tell you about the prices today--yours in Calif. are a lot higher. But when I walked the dog a few moments ago up near the front, Regular was $3.55 and Diesel is $4.20. That's right now. They've been changing faster than the weather, and they only go up. One thing we did that "makes sense" before we left to be RVers: I sold two gas hogs and we purchased two new Hyundais--Sonata & Elantra, and they both get great mileage.

What's the price of gasoline down there today?

[Rob.Singer]

This is an interesting comment. If it is a "scam" as you say, who was behind it and what was the purpose of it? To sell books and tapes and seminars like those who push the idea of "dice control" or are the casinos behind it?

I read the books and practiced on the available software, and it all pointed to being able to win (as the authors had basically promised) if you had the proper aptitude for and understanding of video poker. I of course did, I had the educational background in math, and I had been successful in just about anything I pursued up to that point. So I gave these guys my money and in return I got nothing but an inability to actually do what all these clowns purported to have done.

So yes, it is a scam of the first order when people sell you things and say "you too can be like Mike!" What they don't tell anyone is that it is impossible to beat the casinos--the true holders of the math--without a run of unusually good luck.Standard perfect play and standard luck won't cut it. I never thought the casinos were behind it but after all these years and seeing how Dancer works both sides of the street, one has to wonder.

[Rob.Singer]

Another example of Singer's lies. I provided the emails that were exchanged between me and the administrator. So Singer knows I quit vpfree rather than getting banned. More proof that Singer will lie about anything.

So where are these e-mails and where were they provided? More lies Tabby?

[Alan Mendelson]

Come on guys, let's stop calling each other a liar... at least for one day. Yes Rob, I called and they said your RV is there. I asked to be connected to you and they said don't have phone service, which makes perfect sense. I don't know what that proves but I made the call.

Now, Rob, have you figured out why you didn't get any quads for so long?

[Rob.Singer]

I don't care where Singer lives.

How rich. This, from someone who for years has followed me around Internet forums, and even PAYS to look up information about me!

This is hilarious! Notice how arci postures for the bad news once Alan makes the call he's terrified of making!! Now as part of his on-line face-saving (which he knows took a SERIOUS SERIOUS hit when he got thrown off of vpFree the first time ) he's claiming I've set up some advance spoofing mechanism with an RV park office staff And he still wants to believe jatki is me!

BTW arci, state, county and or federal records--I know you need to believe in them because "you found them on the Internet" but in the past few days I was sent a few posts by some of your videopoker.com pals, and even they are starting to succumb to the understanding that not all regs on vp are available to see, after the thread where rovier? put up some facts about what's REALLY going on inside the machines.

Is it senility....or just plain boredom that's taking hold?

[Rob.Singer]

Come on guys, let's stop calling each other a liar... at least for one day. Yes Rob, I called and they said your RV is there. I asked to be connected to you and they said don't have phone service, which makes perfect sense. I don't know what that proves but I made the call.

Now, Rob, have you figured out why you didn't get any quads for so long?

I have not. I will go back to a casino, probably Fandango early next week where I hit that big royal fairly recently, and play another 2000 credits on quarters on the same machine I lost my first 3400 credits on ($1100) and report back. But I do not put it past casinos to selectively change some machines, just as they can do for tournaments. Even if the casino was "caught" by gaming for doing something unsavory (if in fact it even IS unsavory, because who really knows....) which is probably so far out of the question that you can't even hear it, there's no way anything crippling would ever happen to them. Tax revenue from casinos is king here, especially since there is no state income tax.

Thanks for the info verifying that we're really here. And I do not have a rental property or anything else in Az. Just a rented storage area in Southern Az. Of course poor arci believes everything he looks up on the Internet because he can't get out to see things for himself. I'll bet he doesn't even have a cell phone.

[Alan Mendelson]

I like the "giant depreciating asset" angle. The way I look at it, you're absolutely right, but there's no way this thing depreciates as fast as the house we bought for $550k did when it tumbled to a $260k value when we left it. So this is an improvement!

No, it's not. Eventually your RV will be worth ZIP and you might have to pay someone to haul it away. Even if a house burns down, the land will always retain some value.

[Alan Mendelson]

Now we can get back to some meaningful discussion, like this hallucination:

But I do not put it past casinos to selectively change some machines, just as they can do for tournaments. Even if the casino was "caught" by gaming for doing something unsavory (if in fact it even IS unsavory, because who really knows....) which is probably so far out of the question that you can't even hear it, there's no way anything crippling would ever happen to them. Tax revenue from casinos is king here, especially since there is no state income tax.

[Rob.Singer]

No, it's not. Eventually your RV will be worth ZIP and you might have to pay someone to haul it away.

...Be kind.

[Rob.Singer]

Now we can get back to some meaningful discussion, like this hallucination:

That's my firm belief Alan. Nothing comes before casino tax revenue in this state. Nothing. And how does anyone know what is and is not done to the machines, if anything? All we can go by is our own experiences at them, what others say they have seen (like the poster over on videopoker.com, and like I was told about how the vp machines can be altered to hit more big winners in tournaments) and run it thru the common sense side of our brains. I, like others, have come up with my own logical conclusion, and no one can say it's wrong with any amount of certainty.

[Alan Mendelson]

But Rob, I was told that while slot machines have a "tournament function" the video poker machines do not. I've played in several video poker tournaments and Ive never seen a royal in a tournament. I rarely see quads in a tournament. Ive never gotten anything more than a full house in a VP tournament.

Yet, when I played in a slot tournament at MGM a few years back on Red-White-Blue 7s machines, I got the red-white-blue 7s twice in ten minutes. That's the jackpot sequence. And I was not the player with the most red-white-blue 7s. They were hitting on all of the machines. Because they were in "tournament function."

[arcimede$]

How rich. This, from someone who for years has followed me around Internet forums, and even PAYS to look up information about me!

It's a bad job but someone has to point out the truth. Still the best buck fifty I ever spent.

This is hilarious! Notice how arci postures for the bad news once Alan makes the call he's terrified of making!! Now as part of his on-line face-saving (which he knows took a SERIOUS SERIOUS hit when he got thrown off of vpFree the first time ) he's claiming I've set up some advance spoofing mechanism with an RV park office staff And he still wants to believe jatki is me!

Looks like the phone call came across exactly as I thought it would. Someone would answer and say you were there. Just like the real jatki copied your comments under his name. Yes, there are plenty of morons out there to do your dirty work. Isn't it interesting that I always predict what will happen.

BTW arci, state, county and or federal records--I know you need to believe in them because "you found them on the Internet" but in the past few days I was sent a few posts by some of your videopoker.com pals, and even they are starting to succumb to the understanding that not all regs on vp are available to see, after the thread where rovier? put up some facts about what's REALLY going on inside the machines.

Still can't keep away from vp.com can you. All that "following me around" when your supposedly enjoying your retirement.

The records are not accessible on the internet. So, tell us all about your apartment. Is it one or two bedrooms. I noted that Cindy isn't listed. Having problems?

Is it senility....or just plain boredom that's taking hold?

In your case it's still just malignant narcissism.

[Rob.Singer]

But Rob, I was told that while slot machines have a "tournament function" the video poker machines do not. I've played in several video poker tournaments and Ive never seen a royal in a tournament. I rarely see quads in a tournament. Ive never gotten anything more than a full house in a VP tournament.

Yet, when I played in a slot tournament at MGM a few years back on Red-White-Blue 7s machines, I got the red-white-blue 7s twice in ten minutes. That's the jackpot sequence. And I was not the player with the most red-white-blue 7s. They were hitting on all of the machines. Because they were in "tournament function."

I've played in both, and your answer is what I experienced in regular slot tournaments. But we've also discussed how I've played in a Laughlin vp tournament where royals came to just about everybody--I was one of the many who even received more than one. That ties into what I was told at the Peppermill. I've also played in vp tourneys that seemed to have standard machines.

[Rob.Singer]

Arci, cut your losses like a man. No one believes your conspiracy theories, they believe Alan and me. All you do is lessen your credibility with every pained word. Poor guy. Don't you have enough of that in the little "retirement" world you've created for yourselves?

Jatki must have stuck a very sharp dagger into you when he proved you were lying about that vp.com poster and my home video. He's hard to forget, isn't he....But wait! You guys have something in common. Isn't he sufferring from an illness these days?

[redietz]

I just want to throw this into the mix. I have it on very good authority that when a vp check was conducted after a particular casino opened, the number of royals tallied by the various vp machines in the place varied -- wildly. By wildly I mean that some had two or three and some had 60-something. Now traffic and hands played will certainly result in severe variances, but I have a hard time understanding how vp machines in a brand new property could vary like that. Brand new properties are usually packed and should have less variance from location to location than an established property. There were not any high denomination machines in the survey. I'd like to hear some theories that don't call the sanity/honesty of the observer into question.

[Alan Mendelson]

I just want to throw this into the mix. I have it on very good authority that when a vp check was conducted after a particular casino opened, the number of royals tallied by the various vp machines in the place varied -- wildly. By wildly I mean that some had two or three and some had 60-something.

Interesting, redietz. We've all heard about "hot machines."

Up until about five years ago, I used to play at Casino Morongo almost on a weekly basis because it was close to LA (less than 90 minutes from where I lived) and they had $1 Super Aces Bonus -- and loaded with the game. Out of about 12 machines, three in particular were known to give quad aces many times. Sometimes I would play on one of those machines and get the quad aces two or even three times in an evening. Other machines rarely gave quad aces. Coincidence? A result of randomness? I don't know.

[regnis]

Interesting, redietz. We've all heard about "hot machines."

Up until about five years ago, I used to play at Casino Morongo almost on a weekly basis because it was close to LA (less than 90 minutes from where I lived) and they had $1 Super Aces Bonus -- and loaded with the game. Out of about 12 machines, three in particular were known to give quad aces many times. Sometimes I would play on one of those machines and get the quad aces two or even three times in an evening. Other machines rarely gave quad aces. Coincidence? A result of randomness? I don't know.

That's the thing Alan. The AP's assure us that everything is random and the math all evens out blah blah blah. But yet we all seem to experience what you have stated and no matter how much we play, it is always the same. I am still only 1 Royal in over 10 years. But lately, on 2 particular machines, I just keep getting aces. There are certain machines that all the regulars know not to play anymore as they just never hit.

Seems odd.

[arcimede$]

Arci, cut your losses like a man. No one believes your conspiracy theories, they believe Alan and me. All you do is lessen your credibility with every pained word. Poor guy. Don't you have enough of that in the little "retirement" world you've created for yourselves?

No one has to believe a word I say. It's all there in public records. OTOH, I've asked you to provide the address of your former residence so I can verify that you really did live in a $560K home as you claim. It's very simple for you to put that issue to sleep. Just type in the address. Since you no longer live there you have nothing to lose. I take the address and check the public records. If you've been honest this would be a big win for you.

Of course, you won't provide it because it never existed, like all the rest of the lies you spread. Trying to claim no one believes me is just another futile attempt on your part to brush off the embarrassment of getting caught in numerous lies.

[Alan Mendelson]

So, to settle this dispute... Rob responds this way:

Arci I used to live at 1234 Anytown Street, Scottsdale.

And the next thing we know is that fifty or a hundred of Rob's former students, and true believers of his system, are at the house ripping out sections of the lawn, hoping to take home a piece of ground that Rob Singer once walked on. Or maybe they show up with jackhammers and take out parts of the front steps.

So Rob, please don't put your former personal address here. But send it to Arc using the private message feature that the forum hosting company provides.

[arcimede$]

I hope that was a joke, Alan. Or are you saying former students of Rob's are likely to be felons?