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Thread: Old bet on craps layout. What would you do?

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    Here's the situation:

    A well known player at a certain casino who is known for making "hop bets" (one roll bets) bets $25 on the hard six hopping. For those of you that don't understand -- this bet means that on the very next roll the dice will show 3 - 3 or the bet loses. One roll only.

    The bet is made and on the roll the dice go off the table. There is some delay finding the dice because the shooter requested the same dice. After about a minute the dice are found under another table, checked by the floor person and given to the shooter.

    The shooter throws the dice and the result is an eleven. But the hop bet is left on the layout. This was clearly a dealer error. It was also a floor person error for not monitoring and catching this error.

    At this point a new stick person comes to the table and further complicating the matter, the new stick person (stick person "books" the hop bets) doesn't know that the "$25 hard six hopping bet" is an old bet that should have come down (been removed) by the previous stick person.

    On the very next throw the shooter throws a hard six. The floor person sees the $25 chip on the hard-six hopping part of the layout, the dealer who was just relieved as stick person literally gasps at the error of not removing the old bet and the floor person says "we have to pay it."

    The casino pays it. $750.

    The player says nothing. Later I said to him, softly and in a whisper, "you were lucky." Then we quickly discuss that indeed his bet should have been taken down.

    I am not going to identify the casino because I don't want to embarrass the crew. But what would you do? Would you have accepted the $750 payoff?

    Before you answer, I've refused to take payoffs on bets that were "left up" when they lost... but the amount was perhaps at most $11. Never have I been in a situation where an error resulted in a payoff of $750.

    Would you accept the money if you knew there was an error?

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    If the casino knows about their error and their policy is to pay it, yes, I would gladly accept the $750. If they said they couldn't pay it, which seems more reasonable, I'd accept that too. There is NEVER a good reason to cause undo trouble in any casino.

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    That type of casino error--I take the $$$.

    When the casinos first came here to Chicago, they had very inexperienced dealers. There was one woman dealer, Marlene, who, in craps, would take your come bets, put them up on the number rolled, and then pay them. So in other words, if you laid $10 in the Come area, and a 6 rolled, she would transfer the $10 to the six, and then pay them without the necessity of another 6 being rolled. So we learned to get our max odds on the layout quickly next to the $10 come bet---she would put the bet up with the odds and immediately pay it out.

    What I never was sure of, is if she was doing this on purpose because I did know her (she was also a teller at the race track and I had known her for years), or if she was just that bad. Iassume the latter as she was also a lousy teller and she never acknowledged the "gifts" or asked for anything.

    We did have no qualms taking this $$.

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