How to choose a VP machine-Question for Mr. Singer

[odinoka]

I read most of Rob Singer’s posts on this forum and I would like to try his strategy my next trip to a casino and I will really appreciate if Mr. Singer would be so kind to answer a few questions I have.

1. Is it correct that your strategy could be used ONLY on multi denominations machines?
Example ($0.25-0.5-1.00-2.00-5.00).
What if casino DOES NOT have those types of VP machines?
For example-they may have: I. $0.25-0.5-1.00 VP machine; II. $1.00-$2.00 ones III. bank of $5.00, IV. bank of $10.00 and so on…
Can you play on I-if you lost money-move to II-if you lost move to III and so on OR IT WILL NOT WORK FOR SPS?

2. Would you, please, give more details on you RTT strategy?
What I understood from your posts:
1st level-50:50
2nd level-50:100
3rd level-100:100
4th level-100:150
3rd level-100:300

Is it correct?
Thank you in advance!

[Alan Mendelson]

odinoka thank you for joining us and for posting. I can't respond to your questions about Rob's strategy because I don't know the strategies. But I think when it comes to moving up in denomination it doesn't have to be on the same machine. I think it's okay to move from machine to machine but if you find a multi denomination machine it becomes a matter of convenience.

If I recall when we were trying to negotiate the terms of a challenge, Rob was saying that he needed to play in Laughlin as well as in Vegas because only certain higher denominations of some games were available in Laughlin, so from that I am thinking that it is okay to change machines and sometimes you have to.

Rob talks about hitting a $25 royal at Bellagio which was on a machine in the high limit area and there were no lower denomination machines in the high limit room, so here is another example where he had to change machines.

Heck, he has to have "machine changes" as part of his strategy because he also believes in cold cycles so why would you stay at a machine in a cold cycle?

I look forward to Rob's responses and in the meantime I wanted to thank you again for joining and for posting.

[slingshot]

Sounds like RTT strategy is best for your situation...I'm sure Rob will have some creative alternatives. Changing machines isn't all that bad-it gives you a break and time to clear the mind. Best of luck.

[Rob.Singer]

Yes, RTT and/or SPS will work when all the denominations you want to play are not on the same machine. ARTT won't. And as Alan mentioned, if I believe the machine is entering or is in a cold cycle, I change machines as soon as I recognize it.

On RTT, it's good except for the 4th level, where it's 100/200. RTT has evolved into a better game over the years, and this is the latest update. You want to give yourself EVERY advantage to win or recover losses, and that's accomplished by going up in denomination, game volatility, and number of credits. By doing this, you win a high percentage of your sessions (assuming you go in with 3X one session's bankroll) , you will hit high-paying winners, and the losses will be so infrequent that arci will likely ignore his sick wife for four hours longer than usual, as he scrambles around trying to make it right in his own mind. The benefits are endless.

[Alan Mendelson]

For the benefit of us who don't know better, instead of saying RTT or ARTT could you use the actual name of the system/method.

I think we all know that DDB means double double bonus, and AP means advantage play and BMT is either the subway line in NYC or what the Subway fast food chain calls one of its sandwiches, but ARTT and SPS aren't familiar enough yet.

[Rob.Singer]

RTT is Romp Thru Town; ARTT is Advanced RTT.

[odinoka]

Thank you, ROB.

I played mainly JB for last 10 yeas-yes, for comps it is a best game- and was very lucky and made some $$$ paying JB- all, but last 2 years.

And it does not matter what APs or mathematicians would say-it got HARDER to win in last 3 years.You could put a few hundred $$ and play for a few hours easily-that is not a case anymore...
And I believe in COLD-I would not say cycle,but VP machine mode...What I understood from you posts, Mr. Singer-if within 100 hands (that is about 10 min of play with an average speed)you can not convert ST, FH, 3K or SH to paying hand- this machine IS in cold cycle...is it correct?
I am planning a couple of trips to casino in July, I will play as close to your strategy as my understanding of it will let me- and I will report back on this forum.
What I noticed-people who criticize you did not make EVEN ONE attempt to try to play your strategy... to me-it is like criticizing a book without reading it...
May be they are afraid that you may be right????

[slingshot]

Thank you, ROB.

I played mainly JB for last 10 yeas-yes, for comps it is a best game- and was very lucky and made some $$$ paying JB- all, but last 2 years.

And it does not matter what APs or mathematicians would say-it got HARDER to win in last 3 years.You could put a few hundred $$ and play for a few hours easily-that is not a case anymore...
And I believe in COLD-I would not say cycle,but VP machine mode...What I understood from you posts, Mr. Singer-if within 100 hands (that is about 10 min of play with an average speed)you can not convert ST, FH, 3K or SH to paying hand- this machine IS in cold cycle...is it correct?
I am planning a couple of trips to casino in July, I will play as close to your strategy as my understanding of it will let me- and I will report back on this forum.
What I noticed-people who criticize you did not make EVEN ONE attempt to try to play your strategy... to me-it is like criticizing a book without reading it...
May be they are afraid that you may be right????

Welcome to the forum. Last week was a good example for me of a hot cycle-and they're pretty rare so don't feel alone if you don't see one. I was playing my $15 free play and was doing as Rob suggested on nickels=ddbp and I was playing 10 cents at a time when full houses and straights started appearing almost every 3rd or 4th hand and I just went up to 25 cents and sure enough about 10 hands later, 4-3's appeared for $!00. Unfortunately, that's the only one of that magnitude I've seen in the last 4 visits. I agree-vp is NOT playing the same it once was. BTW, this was a nickel machine with 5-25 credits betting, so the program would remain the same as far as the hot cycle.

[Rob.Singer]

odinoka: that's just it--all these "AP's" use some form of my play strategies, but because they have big egos and small minds, they choose to criticize them rather than become educated on them. Thus, the constant flow of irrational arguments and illogical, confusing comments.

[arcimede$]

odinoka: that's just it--all these "AP's" use some form of my play strategies, but because they have big egos and small minds, they choose to criticize them rather than become educated on them.

Silly nonsense. Betting strategies can not change the return of a game. They can change the variance but that is it.

Thus, the constant flow of irrational arguments and illogical, confusing comments.

Nice projection.