Of 25-Cent Sock Puppets and Men

[quahaug]

' since some would consider me a gambling expert, exceedingly disrespectful, especially since I'm not an anonymous poster."
Huh? Who are you and what makes you a gambling expert? I must have missed your posting on that.

[quahaug]

Alan keep up the good work. This forum is great just the way it is. What the problem is with those little old ladies constantly posting about the forum itself rather than about the subject at hand is silly. If they don,t like it they can take their ball and go home. Problem solved.

[Rob.Singer]

' since some would consider me a gambling expert, exceedingly disrespectful, especially since I'm not an anonymous poster."
Huh? Who are you and what makes you a gambling expert? I must have missed your posting on that.

Good question of him. If such things weren't asked, this forum would turn into the grossly mismanaged WoV forum, where anyone can post anything and expect to be believed because they claim they're some anonymous AP of some sort.

Case in point: Much of the hatred about the Revel promotion is being directed from that forum, where not one person who's a publicly known player is saying anything about it, while there's an endless stream of criticisms, claims, and assertions being made by people without names or faces....or accountability. I broke that spell on vpFree recently, where I explained (and identified the name of the player to several who sent me a PM there) that I'm in contact with a LV high limit vp playing "AP" who's become a friend of mine over the years, and how he is not being bothered by the suits or after inquiring yesterday, he discovers there is no list of his type being banned from playing. It's only those who are getting caught trying to cheat the system somehow or are identified as playing on teams for the promotion that are being dismissed in one way or another.

And isn't that just like a bunch of jealous AP's, to be moaning and groaning about the most lucrative AP-type promo to come along probably ever, then start making stories up about it and saying nasty things that are as untrue as Bigfoot. Even Dancer is said to have joined in on the nonsense, saying he "knows" several players who've been blocked from it. It's all just baloney and intelligent gamblers should see right thru it. There whiners are always complaining how few "great plays" remain, yet when one comes along they make up lie after lie after lie about it. Why? Obviously, because the group as a whole cannot and does not win against the casinos, so they take every opportunity to denigrate them.

[redietz]

Oh, Rob and quahaug, I love you both.

So let me get this straight. I have had plenty of gambling articles published, possibly more than Rob. My articles were in what would be considered more serious publications than Rob's. I know more about more forms of gambling than Rob. I put more money into play gambling each year than Rob. But Rob is an "expert," and I'm a wannabe.

Only on Alan Mendelson's forum.

[Alan Mendelson]

redietz, I don't doubt that you're a gambling expert or that you have clients or customers. Why don't you list your articles, books, etc. here. As I mentioned once before when I do a Google search for "REDietz" (which I think is your name) I see listings for a lighting company.

When I search Frank Scoblete I get this: https://www.google.com/#sugexp=epsug...w=1366&bih=576

When I search Rob Singer I get this: https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-...w=1366&bih=576

When I search Bob Dancer I get this: https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-...w=1366&bih=576

What am I doing wrong? What is your area of expertise? I think you should be properly recognized for your accomplishments.

[Rob.Singer]

I'm kind of in the same conundrum as Alan and most likely, quahog about this. Redietz certainly does appear to know a good deal about gaming, but we'd all like to see at least a piece of his writings or whatever, verified. Sorry Red, saying that you play 25c fpdw like a ferocious brute doesn't do it. I would also like to know what this publication is that could lay claim to being more pertinent to gaming than a 40-year and counting publication out of LV....although I do agree it has seriously deteriorated since I left after almost 8 years of having written their most popular column ever.

Please, let's have at least SOME verification, or else we'll have to file the claim alongside arci's dozen years of cleaning out the Indians while they just looked the other way whenever he walked in the front doors. Oh, and don't forget his excuses for never posting pics of his supposed wins until I humiliated him into posting SOMETHING....and I'm not talking about the one of Olive Oil chowing down on KFC smashed potatoes on Thanksgiving!

[Alan Mendelson]

Actually, Rob, I was very impressed with the video of Arc bowling a perfect game. I wish I had even one perfect game in my life and he has had several.

[Rob.Singer]

Actually, Rob, I was very impressed with the video of Arc bowling a perfect game. I wish I had even one perfect game in my life and he has had several.

Bowling is bowling, and video poker is video poker. I see the impressive part of his 300 game is that an old man can do it, even though he says he used to bowl as a pro somewhere. But overall, perfect games among regular bowlers aren't really that big a deal. There was another bowling tournament going on in Reno when we were in town, and many of these people stayed at the Eldorado. Each day they put up pics of thousands of string results by all these bowlers, and 300 games are all over it.

But I give him credit for doing it because what else does he have? I'm here to help.

[Alan Mendelson]

Sure Rob, people bowl 300 games all the time. And people also get Royals all the time. Yet we are always impressed when someone gets a royal, and I am always impressed when someone rolls a 300.

[quahaug]

Oh, Rob and quahaug, I love you both.

So let me get this straight. I have had plenty of gambling articles published, possibly more than Rob. My articles were in what would be considered more serious publications than Rob's. I know more about more forms of gambling than Rob. I put more money into play gambling each year than Rob. But Rob is an "expert," and I'm a wannabe.

Only on Alan Mendelson's forum.

What the heck are you talking about? We don't know who you are. Who are you, Mr. Big Shot? Is there some kind of clue in your handle or what?

[redietz]

I think Alan should ask his friend, Mr. Grachowski, just how "pertinent to gaming" Gaming Today is. Have any of you even read it? Good Lord, people, it's a decent read while you're sitting at a buffet, but I read it for Monti Rock's show reviews and the GT pinup girl. And Rob, I fail to see how it's "gone downhill" since you were asked to leave. If anything, it's marginally better than 15 years ago. Keno Lil's still there, and the pinup girls have more tattoos, but the rest of it is as good or better.

Not my job to self-promote. I listed the locales of my publications in an earlier thread, including the National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking. Oh, oh wait, that would never, ever measure up to Gaming Today. My God, there's no pinup girl in the published proceedings!

You guys are a hoot. A guy who uses an alias as a columnist is criticizing me for not listing an index of my publications, none of which are under an alias. Why don't I take the time to list them? Why would I? To impress Alan and Rob and quahaug? Please, dudes, get real. If you're not impressed with a paper at the conference, then 200 short gambling articles aren't going to impress you. At least they shouldn't, if you have any brains.

The Mendelson forums -- where you prove your expertise by showing up on google.

[Alan Mendelson]

You're very good at posting cheap shots, redietz.

Do you have a link to your publication? Or is it not online? It is very possible that it is not online so I won't hold that against you.

Yes, I've read Gaming Today. But the photos of the pin up girls have nothing to do with Rob's articles. I remember reading Rob's articles though at the time I was more interested in craps than video poker.

[Rob.Singer]

Sure Rob, people bowl 300 games all the time. And people also get Royals all the time. Yet we are always impressed when someone gets a royal, and I am always impressed when someone rolls a 300.

I'm more impressed with a 300 game because royals are all luck....unless the result of a special play of course. But really, based on the number of strings posted at the hotel, perfect games are far more frequent than royals. And it all depends on the bowler, while royals almost always don't depend on who's playing.

[Rob.Singer]

Redietz, I assume you do know all you're doing is ducking the issue. Who cares where you spoke or where you say your articles might be? WE WANT TO READ THEM! Why not just come out and show us something? Are you ashamed of what you've written?

Gaming Today: The pin-up girl is a tradition from day 1. Keno Lil is a creation of the managing editor. Good papers mix humor with serious writing. And why do I say the paper has deteriorated so much since I left? Well, it was over 30 pages and true NY Daily News size back then. The last 5 or so years it's maybe 13 pages and its size has been cut in half. Bottom line, fewer people want to be published in it these days, because less people grab a copy out of compulsion since their star columnist has left.

[regnis]

No offense Rob, but the paper was deteriorating a few years before the old man died. And while I won't deny that I enjoyed your column, that also became a little repetitive. But no worse than Elliott Fromm.

Redietz, what everyone is saying is put up or shut up. I had a "sheet" for football predictions and I also had a phone deal for horseracing selections. Still, I would never claim to be an expert or authority, although my knowledge of racing is quite broad and beyond anyone else I know. I also have represented gamblers before the state gaming commission, and had laws written directly as a result of my beating them repeatedly. Yet again, I don't make claims of being an authority.

So again, let's see what ya got besides an ego.

[arcimede$]

No offense Rob, but the paper was deteriorating a few years before the old man died. And while I won't deny that I enjoyed your column, that also became a little repetitive. But no worse than Elliott Fromm.

Redietz, what everyone is saying is put up or shut up. I had a "sheet" for football predictions and I also had a phone deal for horseracing selections. Still, I would never claim to be an expert or authority, although my knowledge of racing is quite broad and beyond anyone else I know. I also have represented gamblers before the state gaming commission, and had laws written directly as a result of my beating them repeatedly. Yet again, I don't make claims of being an authority.

So again, let's see what ya got besides an ego.

Quite hilarious. An anonymous poster asking someone else to "see what ya got besides an ego". I would say ... until you put your full name to one of your comments whatever you say doesn't mean squat. In other words, "put up or shut up."

[Rob.Singer]

No offense Rob, but the paper was deteriorating a few years before the old man died. And while I won't deny that I enjoyed your column, that also became a little repetitive. But no worse than Elliott Fromm.

Redietz, what everyone is saying is put up or shut up. I had a "sheet" for football predictions and I also had a phone deal for horseracing selections. Still, I would never claim to be an expert or authority, although my knowledge of racing is quite broad and beyond anyone else I know. I also have represented gamblers before the state gaming commission, and had laws written directly as a result of my beating them repeatedly. Yet again, I don't make claims of being an authority.

So again, let's see what ya got besides an ego.

You're right regnis. What gaming columnist hasn't said it all repeatedly after two or three years of weekly writing. It's one of the reasons it would have been a good idea for Dancer to show he cared for his wife instead of abandoning her. His columns are the same over and over again. He's already said what he believes in hundreds of times. And Fromm....he's so lost he wouldn't know how to say anything without his daddy's old articles to pull from, again, over and over.

[redietz]

Interesting. Some people (regnis, Rob, quahaug, Alan) seem more interested in evidence for my articles than, say, for Rob's million dollar (actually, half a mil if you deduct his "AP" days) win, his special (unpublished and therefore unverifiable) plays, his hot-and-cold evidence (in a locker), and so on. Is there a pattern here? Maybe a pattern that doesn't require proof of the most unlikely claims of certain people?

Some of you want evidence for the likely, but require no real evidence for the unlikely. And those who do so seem to be "friends of Rob." Very interesting.

Okay, quick poll, what's more likely, that I published articles or that Rob has special plays that beat the machines? What's more likely, that Rob has hot-and-cold evidence in a locker or that I had articles published?

Regnis -- do you think Rob's special plays exist, or are they all ego? Let's hear an answer. Quahaug, Alan, how about you -- that hot-and-cold evidence? You think it's more likely to be real than my articles?

I would, of course, if you folks are so interested, be willing to meet privately and tell you where the articles appeared. Just message me your name, address, and phone number, and we can set up an in-person meeting.

[regnis]

Quite hilarious. An anonymous poster asking someone else to "see what ya got besides an ego". I would say ... until you put your full name to one of your comments whatever you say doesn't mean squat. In other words, "put up or shut up."

Arci-as usual, since there are no numbers involved you completely miss the point. I don't claim to have written anything or claim to be an authority. I don't espouse any system. My name is meaningless. Whether it's Joe Blow or Paul Revere makes no difference because I don't claim to be anything. Hell--maybe I am actually Rob Singer.

So go calculate some square roots and get a clue.

[regnis]

Interesting. Some people (regnis, Rob, quahaug, Alan) seem more interested in evidence for my articles than, say, for Rob's million dollar (actually, half a mil if you deduct his "AP" days) win, his special (unpublished and therefore unverifiable) plays, his hot-and-cold evidence (in a locker), and so on. Is there a pattern here? Maybe a pattern that doesn't require proof of the most unlikely claims of certain people?

Some of you want evidence for the likely, but require no real evidence for the unlikely. And those who do so seem to be "friends of Rob." Very interesting.

Okay, quick poll, what's more likely, that I published articles or that Rob has special plays that beat the machines? What's more likely, that Rob has hot-and-cold evidence in a locker or that I had articles published?

Regnis -- do you think Rob's special plays exist, or are they all ego? Let's hear an answer. Quahaug, Alan, how about you -- that hot-and-cold evidence? You think it's more likely to be real than my articles?

I would, of course, if you folks are so interested, be willing to meet privately and tell you where the articles appeared. Just message me your name, address, and phone number, and we can set up an in-person meeting.

Red-I don't know if anything Rob or anyone else says is true. I found Rob's articles and system to be entertaining and thought provoking. I haven't run out and played his system other than a few short times where I went up in denom, 1 of which I got lucky on. What Rob did do was raise the kind of questions regarding randomness that all VP's question during the cold streaks. I wish he could prove any of it because I would handle the lawsuit--class action.

So again, you claim to be an authority (and I assume you are)--but show us something.