2 number method

[mr jjj]

(I have no idea if this is in the correct section?) This is a SOLID "B" method. I have made a TON off of this. Its a bit boring/slow but if your unit size is large enough, well worth it (imo).

Anyways, most of the time we will be betting on 2 numbers with this method (not a system). Sometimes, 0-1 numbers. All flat betting, no progressions please.

Your history board MUST be working and working correctly, you'll need it. Most boards hold the last 10-15 numbers, I PREFER the last 12 hit. We will be betting to COMPLETE a street within the last 12. (I'll use the last 12 as my example because thats what our boards here post). A street example for you non-roulette people is... 16, 17, 18.

VERY, VERY often, a complete street hits in a short period of time (like 12 spins). I did not say it always hits, try not to attack me.

Lets say we have the 17 & 18 hit within the last 12. We bet on the 16 UNTIL either a win or the 17 or 18 DROPS from the board, then stop betting on the 16. We do this style of betting for a max of TWO incomplete streets PER the last 12.

Sometimes there will only be one number to bet on and sometimes, NO numbers to bet. What if there are 3 or more, what is the tie breaker? I choose the two that will be on the history board the longest BEFORE DROPPING. Always choose the two that last the longest on the board !!

Lets say you got a hit on that 16....a couple spins later, the 18 drops off. Yep, bet on that 18 now. The 34 & 36 might be on the board, bet on the 35 UNTIL either a win or the 34 or 36 drops off. I'll give an example >>

6
31
2
21
20
27
11
33
35
21
22
00......What do we bet? The 32 (until the 33 drops off) and the 19 (until the 20 drops off). Next spin >>

3
6
31
2
21
20
27
11
33
35
21
22.....What do we bet? The 1 because the 2 will remain on the board longer than the 33 AND still bet the 19. A bit tricky but here is our next number (33) >>

33
3
6
31
2
21
20
27
11
33
35
21......What do we bet? Its now BACK TO the 32 and the 1. Sometimes that 19 will then hit and it aint so funny but thats roulette for ya.

Pay attention to what just hit and what number just dropped off, easy as pie.


Questions?

Ken

[Alan Mendelson]

Whoa. Could you start from the beginning. When I walk up to the roulette game, what am I looking for? What is my first bet? And then how do I proceed after that first bet?

[mr jjj]

Hmmm, I thought I was clear but thats what I'm here for sir.

You choose whatever unit size best fits you. Maybe $10 per number, so a max of $20 per spin. You are looking (on the history board) for TWO numbers in a street...... 10 & 12 or 25 & 26 or 14 & 15 etc.

As per my rules, bet the two MISSING numbers in that street, like the.....11 and the 27. You will be betting between 0-2 numbers PER spin. If you know what a 'street' is, you're halfway home (pardon the punn).

Ken

[Alan Mendelson]

Okay, I'm lost because I dont know what a street is???

[arcimede$]

So, roulette wheels have a memory ...

[regnis]

Arci--gloves off. Go for it.

Alan--a street is a row. You probably are aware that there are 3 columns of 12 numbers and 12 rows of 3 numbers on the table. This is actually a very much used and recognized system, with no mathematical basis whatsoever.

So Alan you are looking for 2 numbers in any 1 row in the last 12 spins showing. You then bet the 3rd number (the missing number) in that street.

My best results using this system are when there are no numbers to bet--lol.

[regnis]

True story--I have 1 green chip left from a horrible crap game. I walk by the roulette table and ask the dealer if i can bet regular casino chips. She says yes--i put it on 36. 36 hits--she says no bet cause someone else had also bet regular chips on 36 and since she doesn't know who had what amount it's a no bet. There actually is a brig on our casino boats here in chicago as i found out when i went postal on her. I did get paid and an apology from the GM and dinner in the steak house.

[Alan Mendelson]

Okay, so the strategy/theory is that holes in the street get filled?

gee, potholes here in LA don't get filled, so why should holes on a roulette street get filled?

[regnis]

Yep--I can't believe Arci can contain himself here. If it was Singer that used this system arci would let loose the heavy artillery.

[mr jjj]

Well, I've made more (net) off this method in two years than most will make (net) in five years at the casino. Stuff that in your stockin. (I use blacks so each hit is $3,500).

Ken

[regnis]

Let's see--you get 35 for 1. And the exact odds are?? More than that depending on single or double zero. Still a negative Er game with no mathematical basis. Don't get me wrong Triple J--I play craps which is also a negative game, albeit not as negative, and I believe you if you say you have won. But the math--the math!!!

[mr jjj]

This type of betting is also called EVENT betting. Meaning, we are betting on an event to happen. We'll take the 10 and 12 as an example. So we bet on the 11. There is nothing magical about
the 11. We are not concerned with hot or cold or warm or due numbers, its the COMPLETING of the EVENT that is the key, not the 11 itself.

Event betting is noticing something (in terms of roulette) that MOST will never see. A pattern as an example. A complete street hitting in a short period of time as an example. Like this......if I showed you these numbers (before I started this thread) and asked if you SEE ANYTHING, you most likely would be lost or simply would not care >>>

24
36
00
22
07
04
31
27
23
12......You would see nothing BUT I would see, the 22,23,24, a complete street hit in a short period of time. Betting on two numbers, we need one hit in 18 spins (break even), anything under 18 is profit. All numbers are the same, really? I had a GREAT thread at WoV (attacked of course), I posted it KNOWING that I would get mud thrown at me and guess what? Posted it anyways, I could careless.

I cant quote it perfectly but I'll try. I have recorded the last 200 spins (00 wheel). I'll pick 3 numbers for you and 3 numbers for myself. The 3 I choose for you are the 3 furthest back hit. The 3 I choose for myself are the MOST hit (hot) in the last 70 spins of that 200.

We bet these 6 numbers for the next 20 spins. We repeat this (with a fresh 200 numbers) over 100 trials and check the results. I have done this ALL MANUALLY, even during Christmas and the TEMPORARILY hot numbers come out ahead BUT thats impossible Ken. All numbers are the same, none are "better" than others (lol) I have a couple HOT number methods that work GREAT, especially on R.E.

Keep in mind, 'completing a street' has nothing to do with hot/cold numbers.

Ken

[regnis]

Just to be clear triple j, I am not a math guy and I believe any system that works is good, regardless of the math. I am pretty much cynical in my comments and wasn't trying to attack you. But if you read the past threads here, you will see the common theme is Singer, who we could say defies the math, vs. Arci, who lives for the math. That is why I am surprised that Arci hasn't lambasted you. If you were Singer, he would have, but he doesn't hate you yet.

Arci will tell you that over time you can't win doing what you're doing. I leave it to you to argue that point.

[Alan Mendelson]

Craps is similar to this "event betting." We look at the numbers that a shooter is throwing and anticipate he will throw those numbers again. Or perhaps he throws inside numbers or outside numbers or hardways. It has nothing to do with math, but more about how things are coming along.

[mr jjj]

Why would I care what Arci thinks? I do quite well with CERTAIN methods and won't apologize for it. Remember, this is my "B" method, I have a couple "A" methods that would knock your socks off, literally.


Not that it matters but this is my signature at the other boards and I LOVE IT !!! >>

(Advantage-play is for suckers) Gambler's Fallacy is a term coined by unsuccessful gamblers to validate their reasons for losing. Why would I take advice from a person who has dedicated no more than 9 hours to roulette?
He/she is a quitter in my book and I have no use for quitters!! No person has yet convinced me that their way of playing roulette is better than my way.....STILL WAITING

[Alan Mendelson]

Can we get an A system?

[mr jjj]

Been studying roulette (yes, study) for around 15 years, been playing maybe 12 years. We do not have a 0 wheel here, sucks but oh well. In the beginning, I lost THOUSANDS, played lots of DUE methods. Did ok with a couple of them but lost it all back. I study (at home) around 25 hours per week and I play (at the casino) 4-6 days per week. I'm on 6 different roulette boards and a mod at two of them. Roulette is about one thing and one thing only >> TRIAL & ERROR.


I know too many ex-players that have quit because (drum roll) they could not find a decent method after investing a couple weeks to it (lol). I study/play on Christmas and all the holidays. Roulette is not about finding what works, its about finding what does NOT work and go from there. Like reverse engineering. Too many people look at it like this.....2+2 will never equal 5.....so roulette must not work. Thats pure comedy. I ask the non-roulette players all the time......how much TIME have you put into it? Same ole' answers, 4 hours - over the weekend. The weekend? (lol) It takes me the weekend to get all my notebooks ready to play at the casino.

Ken

[mr jjj]

"Can we get an A system?" >> No and they are methods not systems.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

"Can we get an A system?" >> No and they are methods not systems.

Ken

So, are you retired or do you play roulette for a living?

[Alan Mendelson]

If you have a way to win at roulette I'd like to know if it can be adapted to craps?