Another one......

[mr jjj]

Just curious if anybody will be showing PROOF that they do "well" with casino games? Wait, wait I know....the H.E. applies only to me. (lol)

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

Why wouldn't the temporarily hot numbers come out ahead? In the parameters you describe, the numbers you are picking have already appeared more than the statistical norm. Then, you only allow 20 more spins. Over those 220 spins (before starting the next "trial") your 3 numbers were already ahead of any numbers you assigned to us.

Or are you saying that your "hot" numbers will appear more often in the next 20 spins (not collectively over the total 220 spins)? >>>>

"Why wouldn't the temporarily hot numbers come out ahead" >>> They would come out ahead (imo), thats my point. The reason for the question was.....the non-method people say that IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, everything is equal.....one number is not better than another number etc.

"Over those 220 spins (before starting the next "trial") your 3 numbers were already ahead of any numbers you assigned to us" >>> I'm not saying I am up on you 3-0, we start fresh 0-0. I'll try this a different way. If someone says, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, than it should NOT matter what my rules (parameters) are for the experiment, correct, because there can NOT BE ANY type of advantage (so I hear).

Ken

Okay, let me see if I under stand what you are trying to say. We start "fresh" at 0 - 0 and you are betting the "hot" numbers that came up frequently over the past 200 spins, and I am betting "cold" numbers based on the last 200 spins. We bet on the next 20 spins of the wheel. You are saying your numbers will appear more often over those 20 spins than my numbers?

[a2a3dseddie]

"Okay, I think I may be done here with you as well Ken. I think you may just be trolling this site. In post #20 you talked about betting #4 in response to what Alan said. And for all your thousands of hours of study in the field of 00 roulette, the odds of hitting any number are 37 to 1 against you. Not 38 to 1" >>> No, its 38 to 1. Ohhh, I love that word TROLLING. So if I get 70 posts directed to me and I answer ALL 70, thats trolling?

I love that definition man. As far as the #4, who cares about the 4? I THOUGHT you chose it for NO reason, thats what I was asking. The point stays the same, regardless if its the 4 or 34, whatever. I win and you dont....how does it feel to want?

Ken

You have a 1 in 38 chance to hit your number. 1 win and 37 losses. Doesn't that make it 37 to 1?

[mr jjj]

"Okay, let me see if I under stand what you are trying to say. We start "fresh" at 0 - 0 and you are betting the "hot" numbers that came up frequently over the past 200 spins, and I am betting "cold" numbers based on the last 200 spins. We bet on the next 20 spins of the wheel. You are saying your numbers will appear more often over those 20 spins than my numbers?" >>> Pretty much but you left a couple things out.

A) I pick your numbers FOR YOU, you have no say in the matter. I think I said we both get 3 numbers each (?).

B) Yes, over 20 spins PLUS doing this over many trials......that takes out the BS luck debate. Same question.....would you say we should finish around the same, same results after 100-200 trials?

C) I believe I said I'll choose my hot numbers from the last 70 (?) spins from the 200.

Ken

[mr jjj]

"You have a 1 in 38 chance to hit your number. 1 win and 37 losses. Doesn't that make it 37 to 1?" >>> No.

00 wheel..... 38 to 1 odds for my number to hit in ONE spin with a 35:1 payout. This isn't tough man.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

So what you believe is that "hot" numbers from the past 70 spins will appear more often in the next 20 spins. And why is that?

[a2a3dseddie]

"You have a 1 in 38 chance to hit your number. 1 win and 37 losses. Doesn't that make it 37 to 1?" >>> No.

00 wheel..... 38 to 1 odds for my number to hit in ONE spin with a 35:1 payout. This isn't tough man.

Ken

Perhaps your understanding of the game isn't what you claim it is. Or perhaps you have difficulty in expressing "odds" the proper way. Yes the payout for hitting a number is 35 to 1. There are 38 numbers on a 00 roulette wheel. 1 of these numbers is yours. The other 37 are not. Hence the odds are 37 to 1 against you. Your chances of hitting a number are 1 in 38.

[mr jjj]

"There are 38 numbers on a 00 roulette wheel. 1 of these numbers is yours. The other 37 are not. Hence the odds are 37 to 1 against you. Your chances of hitting a number are 1 in 38" >>> Do you know how you can tell you are wrong about this? Because nobody is attacking me and coming to your aid on THIS subject (lol).

Ken

[mr jjj]

I want to make sure I'm talking with the correct people here >>> Its 37 to 1 odds on a 00 wheel.

No such thing as TEMPORARILY hot numbers vs. VERY cold numbers....its all the same..... you can not take ADVANTAGE of unequal distribution in any form of betting etc. Hmmmm and wow again.

Ken

[mr jjj]

Yeah Alan, I have to hand it to you. Loads of "experts" here.
WTF have I gotten myself into? (lol)

Ken

[Vegas_lover]

Curious, why? What am I missing.

By the way: I did check mr jjj and his IP address and it is unique for all of the participants on the forum... just in case anyone is wondering.

Still wondering? New guy, posting like a maniac, extraordinary claims, heated discussions and insults within days. And you thought I was bad news (joke of course)

[a2a3dseddie]

"There are 38 numbers on a 00 roulette wheel. 1 of these numbers is yours. The other 37 are not. Hence the odds are 37 to 1 against you. Your chances of hitting a number are 1 in 38" >>> Do you know how you can tell you are wrong about this? Because nobody is attacking me and coming to your aid on THIS subject (lol).

Ken

I've tried to be as civil as possible in responding to your claims. You are the other hand have been condescending and totally disrespectful even though you are completely wrong. So if you want the gloves off and are trying to get a rise out of me, here you go.

Do you have any idea how foolish your claims sound when you proclaim to be a roulette pro? You don't even understand how to express odds correctly or even understand how they apply to the payouts on a roulette table. So let's take this SLOWLY.

You said in post#20 that you would bet on #4. Let's pretend for a moment in a perfect world you start with 38 units, and that after 38 spins each number has come up exactly once. You would have lost 37 times, and won once. Are you still with me?

Your one win would yield you 35 units. You now have 36 units left out of your starting 38 (you get to keep your original bet on your 1 win). What is 2 divided by 38? Why it just happens to be 0.05263 or, multiplying by 100, we get 5.263% or the house edge in roulette.

Let's say me, arci, regnis, Alan, and the Wizard of Odds meet you in a dark alley. There's 6 of us in that alley including you. We want to mug you and steal all your roulette winnings. Are the odds 5 to one against you or 6 to 1 against you?

Now imagine there are 37 men in that alley that you have trolled and pissed off and trolled plus you for a total of 38. We all want a piece of you . Now in your memoirs would you say it was 1 against 38 people, or 1 against 37 people?

Do you know how you can tell you are wrong about this? Because you still work for a living and are not the richest person on the planet. No one has to come to my aid because no one needs to. They all realize how wrong you are and have already started ignoring you (ala regnis). I can't believe I'm still responding.

[mr jjj]

"Let's say me, arci, regnis, Alan, and the Wizard of Odds meet you in a dark alley" >>> Is this an a** raping situation? I'll be honest buddy, I'm really not into that.

Let me see if I understand how BIAS the members are here. Not one person will tell this nut he is wrong and I am right, not one guy? >>> 00 wheel, do I have a 37 to 1 OR a 38 to 1 chance of my number hitting? Not one brave "player" (cough)?

Hey R2D2 >> If I flip a coin and bet on tails (one time), please dont tell me what my chances are, I dont want to hear it. (lol)

Ken

[mr jjj]

"Still wondering? New guy, posting like a maniac" >>> You left out the part regarding the maniac posts to me FIRST and THEN I responded. You left that out, thats odd.

Ken

[Vegas_lover]

"Still wondering? New guy, posting like a maniac" >>> You left out the part regarding the maniac posts to me FIRST and THEN I responded. You left that out, thats odd.

Ken

Interesting reply. Somehow you interpreted this completely wrong. This was not the meaning of my post. You come here, as a newbie, and start slamming WoD/WoV because you were banned there. Then in a couple of days you reach 118 posts. When people don't reply to your posts soon enough you just start "talking to yourself" and at least half of your posts until now have been in "gloves off mode". Let's just leave it at this, I'm not surprised you weren't the most popular poster on the other forum. I'm probably not either around here but I'm trying to better my life.

You forgot something I said a few days ago. You guys will not scare me away. Ban me if you need to but I won't shut-up, aint gonna happen. I win and you dont. Accept this and move on. Dont blame me for your failings at roulette. I have put in THOUSANDS THOUSANDS of hours TESTING/STUDYING this game, how much time have you put in? Just curious.
Ken

@ Alan, I'll leave it at this because I don't feel like being in the middle of a heated discussion again and it appears mr jjj's objective is to create just that. I'm going to put more effort into being less argumentative.

[Alan Mendelson]

let's say me, arci, regnis, alan, and the wizard of odds meet you in a dark alley. There's 6 of us in that alley including you. We want to mug you and steal all your roulette winnings. Are the odds 5 to one against you or 6 to 1 against you?

Now imagine there are 37 men in that alley that you have trolled and pissed off and trolled plus you for a total of 38. We all want a piece of you . Now in your memoirs would you say it was 1 against 38 people, or 1 against 37 people?

winner!!! winner!!! best post of the week!!!!

[mr jjj]

"Then in a couple of days you reach 118 posts" >>> .....and that is because? I thought we did this part already, lets try it again. If I get 14 questions/remarks, that'll be 14 more posts. If I get 33 questions/remarks, that'll be 33 more posts. Are you seeing a pattern now coolbreeze?

Ken

[Vegas_lover]

"Then in a couple of days you reach 118 posts" >>> .....and that is because? I thought we did this part already, lets try it again. If I get 14 questions/remarks, that'll be 14 more posts. If I get 33 questions/remarks, that'll be 33 more posts. Are you seeing a pattern now coolbreeze?

Ken

Sure, if that's what you want to believe. Enjoy your battles....