Another one......

[mr jjj]

"He won't need to be banned. Eventually he will be ignored because his system and claims are so ridiculous. his act is already old. He makes Rob's system and claims look like the goods.

I should add that I believe he may have won at times--but that is blind luck as the math is the math and, barring a biased wheel or dealer, the system is rubbish" >>>

A) Its a method, not a system.

B) For now, I only posted one method, there may be more to follow.

C) If you dont agree with this method(s), dont play them. Problem solved on your end.

D) I'm not going anywhere so get comfortable.

E) "Lucky" is for how long? I thought the same thing for quite awhile but AT SOME POINT (a line) it passes over luck and into something else. A guy cannot get THAT LUCKY for this long. I put in the TIME and you didn't. Cry me a river.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

"In craps, a bet on the 4, for example, can survive indefinitely even if a shooter fails to roll a 4. But in roulette, a bet on 4 must hit on the next spin or the wager is lost" >>> Like I said, I know NOTHING in regards to craps, so I cant really relate. As for roulette, why must my #4 HIT on the next spin or I lose the wager, says who?

Ken

I don't know what rules your casino has, but if you bet on #4 in any casino I know of and it doesn't hit, your chips are swept away.

[Alan Mendelson]

I have to agree with a2a3dseddie on this one. I thought all bets on a roulette table are one spin bets. If you have a bet on 4 in roulette and the 4 doesn't hit on the next spin of the wheel you lose your chips. mr jjj did you not understand the question or is there something we don't know?

[mr jjj]

"If you understood anything about random trials the one word was completely sufficient. But, have you asked any questions? All you do is assert silly nonsense that is laughable to anyone with a brain. Heck, you can't even figure out how to use the quote facility" >>> I do know how to use it, I just dont care about it and I know more about message boards than you'll ever know.

And *NO* you did not answer me. I know your type hotshot, you DANCE AROUND the question and try to pawn it off as if you answered something. You get "tricky" with your answers and then say....."See, see I answered you Ken but you cant figure it out". (lol)

I asked the question(s) in VERY SIMPLE WORDING so that you can NOT dodge it but STILL, you ignore me. I said it before...I agree if we are talking about 1 or 2 trials....I AGREE WITH YOU........but when I say, lets make it 100-200 trials, are you still gonna tell me that one guy can have all the luck on his side for MOST of the trials, are you on medication?

Very simple, a newbie player, he knows nothing vs. the 30 year roulette player, each has a 10K BR, 3 numbers betting, $10 per number etc etc etc etc etc.......instead of giving me your VIEWPOINT, you dance around it like the coward that you are. Say whats on your mind, I would have more RESPECT for you, at least that would be an ANSWER.

Ken

[Alan Mendelson]

mr jjj Arc did answer you in the same way Arc answers a lot of questions... and he did nothing wrong. By saying "variance" he simply said that anything could happen with the two players in your example and everyone should agree with that because anything could happen with the scenario you gave us.

[mr jjj]

"I don't know what rules your casino has, but if you bet on #4 in any casino I know of and it doesn't hit, your chips are swept away" >>> (lol) that way.
Now this is my way......I have 36 spins to hit that 4 (break even) and 18 spins (break even) combined with another number to hit that 4. Soooo, do I really have to hit the 4 with *ONE* spin to get a profit? Hmmmmm


Ken

[regnis]

I won't be participating in anything else involving triple j, but try out this link from the Wizard so you know what you're dealing with:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/quest...ulet-chalenge/

Can't wait for rob to return so we have realistic claims of success on negative games

[mr jjj]

"By saying "variance" he simply said that anything could happen with the two players in your example and everyone should agree with that because anything could happen with the scenario you gave us" >>> Yes, I know what variance means. So we are now talking about the ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN ROULETTE debate, thats great. How silly should we get tonight? The reds could hit for...

287,604,365,211,764,387 spins in a row? Anything can happen, right?

In 100 trials (10K per trial, per man), I'm not even saying the 30 year PRO will beat out the newbie in all trials, thats just plain BS but for a person to throw a LABEL of....."anything can happen Ken". Wow, simply wow.

Ken

[Alan Mendelson]

mr jjj the same way you criticized Arcimedes for not giving you a straight answer, we can ciriticize you now for not giving us a straight answer about the bet on #4.

But here's the problem I have with your method: I don't think the method is very valuable when you have 36 spins to break even... that doesn't do me much good.

[mr jjj]

"Can't wait for rob to return so we have realistic claims of success on negative games" >>> My threads are all over the place, so what? I never HIDE behind different user names, its not my thing. Speaking of negative games regnis, what casino games do you play? You already know where I'm going with this so buckle up for safety and enjoy the ride sir.


Ken

[Alan Mendelson]

Let's start over, mr jjj. If you have a method that wins tell us the method again and explain the actual betting strategy. And most important: tell us why it wins? Some of this might be redundant, but I'd like to start over. Thanks.

[mr jjj]

"mr jjj the same way you criticized Arcimedes for not giving you a straight answer, we can ciriticize you now for not giving us a straight answer about the bet on #4" >>> ?? Its three posts up.

"But here's the problem I have with your method: I don't think the method is very valuable when you have 36 spins to break even... that doesn't do me much good" >>> Ok, I can change it for you, in 35 spins, we now have a profit, better? I was saying....I would rather break even than to lose.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

"I don't know what rules your casino has, but if you bet on #4 in any casino I know of and it doesn't hit, your chips are swept away" >>> (lol) that way.
Now this is my way......I have 36 spins to hit that 4 (break even) and 18 spins (break even) combined with another number to hit that 4. Soooo, do I really have to hit the 4 with *ONE* spin to get a profit? Hmmmmm

Ken

My response was to what you said earlier.

"As for roulette, why must my #4 HIT on the next spin or I lose the wager, says who?"

The casino says you lose that's who. Now if you're talking about the next 18 or 36 spins to make a profit or break even, betting on #4 continuously, that's something else entirely and you're back to claiming that because of the numbers that have come previously, #4 has a greater chance of turning up, making a 35 to 1 payoff profitable on a 37 to 1 longshot.

[mr jjj]

"Let's start over, mr jjj. If you have a method that wins tell us the method again and explain the actual betting strategy. And most important: tell us why it wins? Some of this might be redundant, but I'd like to start over" >>> Is it breaking forum rules if I ask a question with a question? Here it goes.....what for? The END result will be the same and the METHOD is already posted (somewhere here, lol). I know the tactics, maybe not from you but......Bombard me with TONS of: You cant win Ken and maybe I'll go away. These are rookie tactics, been through it all man. The old GG and WoV.

We dont have alot of choices here but I'll help ya out >>

A) I'm lying.

B) Not lying but the sample of my winnings are too small, have not played enough. (For a NEW player, I would agree with that but I put in my time....lost thousands in the beginning, lost girlfriends because I chose to stay at home and STUDY roulette instead of taking her out, many nights with only 3-4 hours of sleep etc., I put in my time and I won't apologize to anyone.

Sacrifice the same things I did, then we'll be on the same level. I posted this method as a NICE thing to do, not to be attacked and treated like s**t. Everybody is a tough guy on the internet.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

I pasted this response from the other thread since you haven't replied to it.

Quote Originally Posted by mr jjj View Post

As far as "better" numbers go, any comments yet? >>

I have recorded the last 200 spins (00 wheel). I'll pick 3 numbers for you and 3 numbers for myself. The 3 I choose for you are the 3 furthest back hit. The 3 I choose for myself are the MOST hit (hot) in the last 70 spins of that 200.

We bet these 6 numbers for the next 20 spins. We repeat this (with a fresh 200 numbers) over 100 trials and check the results. I have done this ALL MANUALLY, even during Christmas and the TEMPORARILY hot numbers come out ahead constantly.

Ken
Why wouldn't the temporarily hot numbers come out ahead? In the parameters you describe, the numbers you are picking have already appeared more than the statistical norm. Then, you only allow 20 more spins. Over those 220 spins (before starting the next "trial") your 3 numbers were already ahead of any numbers you assigned to us.

Or are you saying that your "hot" numbers will appear more often in the next 20 spins (not collectively over the total 220 spins)?

[mr jjj]

"#4 has a greater chance of turning up, making a 35 to 1 payoff profitable on a 37 to 1 longshot" >>>

A) Why the #4, did I miss that part or we are picking any number as an example?

B) 38 to 1 longshot. (00 wheel here)

Ken

[mr jjj]

"I pasted this response from the other thread since you haven't replied to it" >>> Geez, could it be that I'm going in order, NOT TO MENTION, the other questions on OTHER boards.....the countless PMs and emails I get daily. Sorry I didn't drop everything for you. The bombardment won't work fellas, been through it already.

Ken

[a2a3dseddie]

"#4 has a greater chance of turning up, making a 35 to 1 payoff profitable on a 37 to 1 longshot" >>>

A) Why the #4, did I miss that part or we are picking any number as an example?

B) 38 to 1 longshot. (00 wheel here)

Ken

Okay, I think I may be done here with you as well Ken. I think you may just be trolling this site. In post #20 you talked about betting #4 in response to what Alan said. And for all your thousands of hours of study in the field of 00 roulette, the odds of hitting any number are 37 to 1 against you. Not 38 to 1.

[mr jjj]

Why wouldn't the temporarily hot numbers come out ahead? In the parameters you describe, the numbers you are picking have already appeared more than the statistical norm. Then, you only allow 20 more spins. Over those 220 spins (before starting the next "trial") your 3 numbers were already ahead of any numbers you assigned to us.

Or are you saying that your "hot" numbers will appear more often in the next 20 spins (not collectively over the total 220 spins)? >>>>

"Why wouldn't the temporarily hot numbers come out ahead" >>> They would come out ahead (imo), thats my point. The reason for the question was.....the non-method people say that IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, everything is equal.....one number is not better than another number etc.

"Over those 220 spins (before starting the next "trial") your 3 numbers were already ahead of any numbers you assigned to us" >>> I'm not saying I am up on you 3-0, we start fresh 0-0. I'll try this a different way. If someone says, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, than it should NOT matter what my rules (parameters) are for the experiment, correct, because there can NOT BE ANY type of advantage (so I hear).

Ken

[mr jjj]

"Okay, I think I may be done here with you as well Ken. I think you may just be trolling this site. In post #20 you talked about betting #4 in response to what Alan said. And for all your thousands of hours of study in the field of 00 roulette, the odds of hitting any number are 37 to 1 against you. Not 38 to 1" >>> No, its 38 to 1. Ohhh, I love that word TROLLING. So if I get 70 posts directed to me and I answer ALL 70, thats trolling?

I love that definition man. As far as the #4, who cares about the 4? I THOUGHT you chose it for NO reason, thats what I was asking. The point stays the same, regardless if its the 4 or 34, whatever. I win and you dont....how does it feel to want?

Ken