More Absolute Proof VP "AP's" Are Nothing But Liars

[Rob.Singer]

And there you have it--in Dancer's latest LVA article, he shows how telling another whopper is just another day in the life of a so-called AP.

He now claims how he believes doing good deeds reflects positively on the community and makes it a better place in which to live--and that he "follows that regimen wholeheartedly".

What a liar. Ask his ex wife about how well he does his deeds. Then ask him why he felt leaving a sick wife who needed spousal support didn't measure up to his need to keep his gambling problem in tact.

But yes, there's more. I know some people in LV who know Shirley, and now I'm being told that loverboy Bob was running around with his new Bonnie...Shirley's former BFF...well before the divorce, and was the main reason for him being thrown out. So Dancer may have made up the reason, which is why he needed to run to LVA to write the article about "smokey smelly Bobby".

What goes around always does come around Bob, and as our friend arci knows much too well in relateable situations, it's always in such a righteous way.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob, what is the point of this? You have really gone off the deep end.

[slingshot]

Just a dose of the truth. Help me! I feel myself dropping off the deep end.

[Rob.Singer]

Most definitely, sling. What you're seeing is people getting hot under the collar whenever with the fact that gambling problems exist....and how they really do take over some lives. Some of the most offensive comments GT used to receive were on days my column mentioned the possibility that addiction exists--and no one was ever named. But that's how these people who live under the gun react. In this case, I've "gone off the deep end". I guess that's better than the usual denial, or bevy of self-serving explanations. Even misscraps on vpFree says she's a degenerate gambler over and over, and the administrator admits to being addicted to the game.

It's all just simple common sense.

[slingshot]

Most definitely, sling. What you're seeing is people getting hot under the collar whenever with the fact that gambling problems exist....and how they really do take over some lives. Some of the most offensive comments GT used to receive were on days my column mentioned the possibility that addiction exists--and no one was ever named. But that's how these people who live under the gun react. In this case, I've "gone off the deep end". I guess that's better than the usual denial, or bevy of self-serving explanations. Even misscraps on vpFree says she's a degenerate gambler over and over, and the administrator admits to being addicted to the game.

It's all just simple common sense.

I definitely was and am madder than ever that the thing got away from me. Funny-5 years ago I had no problems winning. Now-and I know that probably you may not agree with this-but IN MY AREA the vp machines are nothing more than slots in disquise Now I know that infuriates some people-but I've had more luck treating them as such. If the machine's in a winning mode, it'll win. If not-go ahead and try every hold known to man and hope for the best. And I can't explain how I can hit $200-$300 and the rest of the trip takes it no matter how careful I am to try and prolong it. I almost feel that they're tracking my card and letting me have a win and then taking it back. They did it EVERY trip until I caught on.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob it's your constant attacks that put you in the deep end. This thread is not necessary.

[redietz]

Let's face it -- odds were that Dancer was fooling around before he was tossed out. Odds were that his sudden, convenient hooking up with Bonnie didn't originate post-Shirley.

Most adults would draw these conclusions. Why he felt it necessary to make up some fiction and post it in his LVA column is beyond me. He evidently needs to keep some sort of Boy Scout public persona intact. Maybe it's because most of his "Million Dollar Video Poker" winnings were won by Shirley. I mean, let's face it, it was Shirley's spin of the wheel that enabled Dancer to write a video poker book and become semi-famous. Without that spin, as you say, Alan, who knows what luck had in store for Mr. Dancer.

[Rob.Singer]

That's curious Alan. Bringing up vp addiction issues is an attack? Likely only to those who know it's true, but want to keep it swept under the rug as long as possible. And the real reason such a trusted writer as Dancer got divorced when he tried to blame the wife for "misunderstanding his vp habit"? Totally relevant and absolutely not an attack....unless the word "divorce" jabs at the same nerves as vp addiction does.

[slingshot]

Alan, I think the point that Rob is trying to make is that gambling addiction affects your personal life. I felt many times like a liar, although I remained sane enough to seek help.

[Vegas_lover]

Alan, I think the point that Rob is trying to make is that gambling addiction affects your personal life. I felt many times like a liar, although I remained sane enough to seek help.

Sling, Alan is no dummy and the rest of us aren't either. If that's what Rob wanted to say then why didn't he just say that? The title of his thread has one purpose only: insult people and create havoc. The rest of his thread is nothing more than another attack on Bob Dancer. He uses this forum as his personal playground to beat up his historcal "enemies". The only thing this article proves is that Rob is a giant .................

For somebody who claims so many thing about others, he has done little to prove his own claims. Consider this + the fact that Rob likes to insult others and throw them under the bus, what does that make him? I'm not even going to go there anymore.

@Rob, don't even care to respond. Nobody's interested in this next episode of bull hoeckey.

[Alan Mendelson]

Vegas_lover got it right. There is no need for Rob to make these comments. As they say... he who lives in glass houses shouldn't shoot bullets.

[quahaug]

schedule c please.

[slingshot]

Vegas_lover got it right. There is no need for Rob to make these comments. As they say... he who lives in glass houses shouldn't shoot bullets.

Yeah-I can see that part.

[Rob.Singer]

No Alan, you missed the point again. Dancer's a disgrace as a public figure. This mess he finds himself in with a divorce, messing around with his wife's BFF, and his continuous efforts at trying to justify his foolish actions is really no surprise if you've ever read his perverted "Sex, Lies, & Video Poker" books. In them you can clearly see the twisted, confused mind of someone who is unhappy in his life because his insatiable hunger for sex in any way, shape, or form has never and could never be realized. Shirley likely saw those aberrations as the lucky beginning of the end, which is why she did so well in the divorce.

Public people who play vp professionally or who are widely known do not have to be degenerates in their lives. You constantly make statements about my bold and truthful remarks have me being "my own worst enemy" only of all the so-called "known" vp personalities, who's the only one you've ever heard of that's got a stable, normal family and has been married to the same woman in their first and only marriage since they were young? No Alan, divorce--or multiple divorces--does not wear well when you're a public figure--esp. in the gambling world. These people typically thrive in conflict, hatred, and are poster children for the no-way-out set. Just check someone like Jean Scott. Nice, sweet old lady, right? Well, her & "Brad's" pathological gambling habits have a lot to say about why they do not ever get married. They travel under the guise that staying single old people garners more of those freebies and comps you hold so dearly, yet the truth is neither one trusts the other enough to tie any knots. One glitch or sneaky maneuver by either of them could send either frail life that are well into their declining years, into a non-recoverable tailspin.

You want to understand this more, just let me know.

[Alan Mendelson]

Here's what I think: it's in very poor taste for you or for anyone else to make comments about anyone else's personal life. That especially includes their marriage(s) or divorce(s) or personal relationship(s).

Not only is it in poor taste, but I don't care. And I think a lot of other people don't care either. Whether or not any of these people have a troubled marriage or no marriage is not going to help me play video poker, or be a better player, or get more comps, or put more money in my pockets.

[Vegas_lover]

[QUOTE=Alan Mendelson;15984]Here's what I think: it's in very poor taste for you or for anyone else to make comments about anyone else's personal life. [QUOTE=Alan Mendelson;15984]

And that's just a mild explanation of what it is. I could use a whole lot of different terms to describe this behavior. It speaks volume about Singer's character, not about the people he loves to throw under the bus.

[QUOTE=Alan Mendelson;15984]Not only is it in poor taste, but I don't care. [QUOTE=Alan Mendelson;15984]

Ditto!

With all this nonsense, Singer's just showing his true personality. He states fiction as "facts" and "absolute truths" which basically makes him the village idiot. This man comes accross as somebdy who might need some medication.

I'm wondering about the possible legal implications of threats like this. Alan, could there be a risk for you getting involved in a legal battle when you leave this nonsense online? I could imagine people would be willing to go to court to shut Singer up since he has absolutely no proof of the nasty things he's saying here. Could this be considered as defamation of character?

[redietz]

While I'm no fan of Rob's vitriol, he's not going to be sued because his info is pretty much accurate. And I'll get into it another day, but anyone who thinks the context of one's life doesn't affect one's gambling is just plain wrong.

Look, if you donate to casinos as a recreational player, as 99.9% of people are, then it's no big deal and, as a Hunter Thompson fan, I recommend Jack Daniels, ether, and a membership to The Green Door. But if you aspire to be a professional, then what Rob says is correct -- people rarely muster behavioral discipline in the gambling milieu if they lack behavioral discipline in other contexts. Dancer clearly has issues with sex and ego -- his columns ooze those problems. Is he "successful?" I guess that depends on your definition of success, and that, I think, is Rob's point. It's friction-creating to suggest that staggering through multiple marriages is indicative of lack of discipline, but it's a legitimate viewpoint.

[slingshot]

Good post, Red. I see the whole scenario as a guy who got taken at vp and woke up one day and realized the truly valuable things of this life. Not being a quitter,he decided to turn the tables-not by any means of magic or "feel good" methods, but by the actual math that he's actually accused of NOT using. Being a humanitarian, he decided to take it one step further and help his fellow man-for FREE. Being shocked that many accusers would rather play for recreation and good-time losing, he became even more dogmatic to the point of offending others. All I'm saying is the intents are good. Unfortunately, I'm the type of person who would just shake his head and say o.k. I tried. I'm thinking that few here have been taken like this, but it's the dose needed for those who read a lot and figured they had it all figured out.

[Vegas_lover]

Well Red, you and Singer both really dislike Dancer as you both have stated before. So I'm not really surprised you're with him on this. I'm not really fond of Dancer either but this thread is completely filled with assumptions. Not facts. You two like to fill in all of the blanks of Dancer's life in a negative way because you both don't like him. Stick to facts, or maybe just leave it alone. This whole subject is in no way a useful contribution to this forum IMHO.

[Vegas Vic]

Rob, just STFU.