The Internet is filled with websites and posts about visitors to Las Vegas who win. They write about their slot machine jackpots, and their terrific runs at blackjack, and long rolls of the dice at craps, and they all say the same thing -- about how much money they win.

There are so many "winners" writing about their great luck at casinos that you start to wonder how do the casinos stay in business?

Let's not forget all of the "experts" that are telling you how to win at blackjack with card counting, and win at craps with dice influencing and dice control, and win at video poker by playing perfect strategy. Heck, there are also "experts" who tell you how to win at slot machines by finding the right machines that pay off the best. And then there are the experts who talk about money management and how the correct money management will give you the bankroll for when it's your turn to win.

Gee whiz. I've seen it and read it all.

Well, I am starting a thread for the rest of us... those who aren't always going through the shoe with big wins at blackjack and aren't counting cards flawlessly, and those of us who are not winning at craps with dice influencing and dice control and aren't having monster hands holding the dice for an hour or more, and those of us who are not playing the positive payback video poker machines or really don't have the strategy plays memorized, and those of us who can't seem to find those slot machines waiting to spit out the jackpots.

Yes, this thread is for Las Vegas Losers. We play in casinos because we enjoy playing, and we go to Las Vegas because we enjoy everything else the city has to offer. But we are not pretending to be big winners.

So if you have a story about losing, share it here. We all will understand, because we've all lost. There is no shame in being a loser in a casino because that's how casinos are designed.