To my friend: stop going to casinos.

[mickeycrimm]

It is you who has perpetrated the fact that you don't win. And winning one year is not what I or even you are discussing. Plus, I seriously doubt you know optimal play well enough, based on your many comments and questions here over the years, for it to be any more than a guide on how to play the game....let alone a reason for winning in a year. And it's not "Dancer's strategy". It's known math, which he and a host of others choose to wrap up and sell to players as a method of income.

NEWSFLASH: Singer endorses optimum play.

[mickeycrimm]

Of course you have. What you've reported is probably exactly like everyone else experiences:

November 2008:
(less than 4,000 hands per royal)

August 2010:

I've played a whole 5 hours in 2010 and most of it via the free-play route, but thanks to a very unusual four Royal Flushes (one on quarters and THREE on $2 machines) I've profited over $20,000

(less than 1,500 hands per royal)

2011: 4 royals and one A-C-E-S reported in 2 month period, in what was claimed to be a limited amount of play. (Impossible to know exactly how many hands were played, but based on your statements from that time frame of playing no more than 90 minutes every 10 days it would amount to one royal in less than every 1,250 hands, not included the ACES hit).

Its a good thing that you've never done any thing that might make people question your honesty or they might doubt your good fortune. What I can't quite figure out is why you were constantly crowing about how GT was always posting your big wins if you just had average luck.

I also noticed that the royals slowed down and the quads with kickers had a huge gain this spring, with aces plus a kicker coming in at about 10 times the expected rate of 1 every 15,000 hands and 2/3/4 with a kicker coming in at twice the expected rate. You have been very lucky indeed.

I had a question about how you define "sessions" and "win goals". In your post you stated:

the strategy requires getting up and LEAVING THE ACTION BEHIND once a win goal is attained

You say that a lot. In an a post from July of '13 where you said you were training someone you wrote:

But the most important part of the training sessions was TO QUIT AS SOON AS THE WIN GOAL WAS ATTAINED, and that's exactly what was done both days.

In the very next article, posted 5 hours after the first, you mentioned losing $1,600 the day before and then wrote:

The final 3 sessions, from today, show a $4000 royal for a session profit of $3600; a $1250 dealt quad for a session profit of $375; and $2000 quad Aces for a session profit of $1700. So how much did I make in less than THREE hours and four sessions of play? $4075, that's how much, and it was ALL on NEGATIVE EV GAMES!!

That doesn't quite seem like "LEAVING THE ACTION BEHIND once a win goal is attained". You've posted goals here before, and none have been anywhere close to $4,000 or $5,000. I'm also not sure how "sessions" work if you include one from the day before.

According to your own statements those three sessions netted $3,600, $375, and $1,700.

And, as you said, they were all played on the same machine.

I'm having trouble figuring out where the "leave" part comes into play. This doesn't seem to be all that much different from what you constantly rail against other players doing. You stayed on the same machine. You seem to count the losses from a day earlier in your session count. You had big wins yet kept playing. How does this differ from what Bob Dancer or Alan or anyone else does?

Bump. Spock has Singer nailed to the cross in this post.

[mickeycrimm]

Why doesn't Alan accompany Rob to CET and various other properties, have Rob ask them for a 2013 win/loss statement, and then verify the results?

Wearing my "investigative reporter hat" for a moment:

Dan haven't you figured it out yet? Rob conveniently avoids playing with a "card" so that there is no win/loss statement. Despite his recent claims that he has made 7Stars we don't know if that is true or even if a card was used all or part of the time.

Rob, by telling us, that he has offset his taxable wins with "business expenses" also eliminates the chance that any tax records would verify his claims.

Now, in all fairness to Rob, I am sure he has had his share of big winners. The reality is that all video poker players have some big winners including royals and quads with kickers. My son hit five (5) royals in 24 hours one weekend. I saw my offers from Pechanga collapse when I hit two $20K royals one month apart plus a multitude of quad Aces with kickers during the same time frame. The point is people do win.

The only question here is actually the frequency of Rob's wins. I am sure his photos in Gaming Today were valid. I am sure he recently had a "rush" of quads with kickers. But Rob probably will never be able to prove to any reasonable person's satisfaction that these big winners came with the limited amount of play that Rob has claimed. I am sure that he has his "true believers" who will believe anything he says -- but I am not one of them.

Spock has done an excellent job of pinpointing some of the claims that Rob made and while I would like to see Rob verify his claims, it would be impossible because we know Rob can't produce tax records or even win/loss statements. And because he can't produce any reasonable proof he will continue his belligerent attacks and insults and probably will also make crazy demands for his challengers to put up "cash" in some sort of contest or challenge to see his proof.

I wish I had the money for such a challenge -- because I really doubt Rob has any proof outside of photos or W2Gs of particular wins which by themselves do not constitute any proof at all of his performance level.

To be blunt, we are arguing with a ghost and with a fairy tale.

If Rob really were the "big winner" he would have had the proof to show it. But alas, he avoided any attempt at maintaining proof.

That's how I see it.

I'm amazed. Did Alan really write this? LOL!

[mickeycrimm]

And OF COURSE I have no proof to support my claim (I assume you're talking about special plays hitting and/or not playing very long and winning a lot). Who has proof of ANYTHING in vp....And why is it even necessary? I thought forums were to discuss ideas and experiences, to share advice that may help interested others, and in some cases, to irritate deserving trolls. There's always people who have seemingly extraordinary experiences that others might not be able to fathom. It's not the end of the world you know.

How many times in the last year has Rob demanded proof from others? The next time he does it he should be referred back to his own statement here.

[Rob.Singer]

And OF COURSE I have no proof to support my claim (I assume you're talking about special plays hitting and/or not playing very long and winning a lot). Who has proof of ANYTHING in vp....And why is it even necessary? I thought forums were to discuss ideas and experiences, to share advice that may help interested others, and in some cases, to irritate deserving trolls. There's always people who have seemingly extraordinary experiences that others might not be able to fathom. It's not the end of the world you know.

How many times in the last year has Rob demanded proof from others? The next time he does it he should be referred back to his own statement here.

Here comes that lack of any education rearing its ugly head again Mickey.

People constantly ask me for proof that my strategy consistently works, and I always refer them back to the indisputable proof I offered in the Fezzik bet along with how the many anonymous coward "AP's" of WoV--along with Mike himself--ran for the hills scared to death when I proposed a bet of at least 8 of 10 winning session with at least an overall profit of $25k with them witnessing my play.

Yet when we ask for proof from penny-ante bums like you and virtual forum players like kew, jbjb and others here, all we get is "we don't have to put up proof because we win!" And dopes like you not only buy that bs---you adapt it to your own moronic stories.

Wise up dopey.

[mickeycrimm]

Sure I poke fun at clowns like Spock who spend so much time looking up and providing partial statements, incomplete analyses, and his resulting lies even though he does what they all do when faced with the real facts, and denies it all.

Remember, I'm the celebrity here, and anonymous cowards like Spock and anyone else who throws out unsupportable assertions and claims, only do so out of what they see as failure in a part of their life that is not so in mine.

My "recent" barrage is a most extreme example of that, but the couple of examples from Spock's continuing jealous rantings are simply a small snippet from yearly play results, which obviously can be skewed either way depending on the degree of hurt he feels at the moment.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! For the guy who's always claiming everyone else has you "deep in their brain" you can't HELP but constantly mention me, (while spewing the same drivel), over and over again as evidenced above. I'm so deep in your head I can poke your Medulla Oblongata. But now we know why you frequently say that: because that's what YOU do! You can't stop obsessing over people! I kind of feel sorry for you; it must have been hell with Arci always occupying that tiny brain of yours year after year after year.

Perhaps "Hanoi Rob" would be a better name for you since you seem to have the idea that if you repeat something over and over again everyone will believe it. But, as always, where you turn to platitudes and fabricated fantasies about jealousy in your zest for retaliation, I'm able to actually do something you have NEVER done; document what I post. There are no places where I "left out the parts that gutted him", nor are there "partial statements" and "incomplete analyses". The "unsupportable assertions" are fully supported and any "small snippets" are there because that's all YOU posted. Unlike you I let my posts speak for themselves instead of your practice of constantly trying to convince people that you are relevant.

So now you have the envious task of admitting that you didn't include all your play because you can't stand to admit you are losing, or to stand by your own words. Your choice.

Most of this has been posted before, but since you seem to be so intent on making sure a new crop of readers is aware of it I'm more than happy to post it again. And horror of horrors! I'll actually supply the source so people can verify its accuracy and then decide for themselves how relevant it is! You should try that sometime.

2008
The 2008 figure came from a Gamblers Bookstore interview that aired on November 13th of that year.

At the 17:28 mark Rob states:

I had a very unusually lucky year. I hit 4 royals, I played 25 hours total, and I won directly from the machines 192,000 dollars

In that interview, at the 38:28 mark he also stated:

I could play up to 1400 hands per hour when I was like that, and I used to time myself. I don't think I was accurate because nobody could be accurate like that. But now I might play 500 hands an hour.

2009
I only have a few references for 2009, including what he wrote on VPTruth on 8/19:

Speaking of playing, mine has been on the puny side thus far this year. I believe I've played only 20 sessions and have won just under $11,000 while going 15-5. Of course, the majority of that came on a lucky hit on the $5 machine at M.

The other ones consist of 2 times where he states free play wins, (+$335 and +$650), and a third where he did the same, all of which were posted on VPTruth and all came after his earlier statement with the final one posted in late November:

The Hard Rock's $150 turned into $1670; Sam's Town $140 was cashed out at $540; and Tuscany's puny $30 ended up $4090 because of a dollar royal by holding a lone Ace. "

He ended the year on December 26th writing:

I won just under $11,000 at video poker early on, but I quit playing for profit after that.

2010
He was still writing on VPTRuth in 2010 and in article 516 posted on 4/20 he wrote:

I enter May 2010 ahead $24,500 for the year. I say lucky because I've been blessed with three $2 royals this year and I've not played more than 8 total hours

And this is where Rob's truly awesome powers came into play; on 8/6 in article 523 he posted what appears to be his ability to turn back time:

I've played a whole 5 hours in 2010 and most of it via the free-play route, but thanks to a very unusual four Royal Flushes (one on quarters and THREE on $2 machines) I've profited over $20,000

There were no additional posts that year that stated anything about wins.

2011
While Rob joined the forum in late 2010 I don't believe he started posting in earnest until the spring of the following year. (The index here doesn't go back further than 2013 on his posts). It was on 8/29/11 that he posted this, his first "win":

I stopped at the Edgewater the other day and within 30 minutes I hit a $2 royal playing 25c-$2 ARTT.

On 9/11 he reported this:

Two hands in I was dealt AhKhQhJh10d. She was really into this now and told me to hold the straight. After I giggled and explained the hand to her, the ol' fifth card flip-over popped up again and I had a $2k royal. You know I don't ever tip handpays, and this one not only took 1-1/2 hours (because they had to send out to the owner for the cash) but they couldn't figure how to write up the W2G properly and I had to help.

It appears that with this event Rob told a somewhat different story a year later about it on VPFree:

Last Sept. I hit a dollar royal at a bar in Pahrump while waiting for a take-out pizza. They told me I'd have to come back in 2-3 hours because they didn't have the cash, which I did, but they paid me in 20's.

On October 10th Rob wrote:

I don't play very often any more but I do have 2 royals ($1 & 50c) in Sept. in maybe 1000 hands

That doesn't quite mesh with the above, but the $1 royal matches the story he told a year later on the bar hit and BAGiant posted at The Las Vegas Advisor a week later about a .50 heart royal at that was accompanied by a message stating "Another Royal at the Silverton", which I found interesting because it was never mentioned here even though he was frequently posting yet it was the same suit and denomination as the one he reported the week before at a different location. Hmmm. Good luck to anyone trying to figure out exactly what went on there.

On 10/20 Rob reported this from Terribles:

On $2 ACES BP I was dealt unsuited AJQ with a 2 and 3. All the AP's would religiously hold the JQ, but I never do. The Ace happened to be with the letter "E" in the 4th position and I held it, but it really didn't matter where it was placed because I always hold only the Ace in that situation. Moments later I was looking at 7AAAA and in order for $8000.

Six days later he made this post about another win:

I know Alan is having trouble hitting a royal this year. Kind of odd that I haven't seen a SF in TWO years, but RF's are no stranger to me. I hit another one today on quarters, again on a 6/5 BP machine at the local bar playing $40 while waiting for a pizza and a pulled pork sandwich to take up to the RV.

There were no more wins reported that year, but in early November he wrote:

On the flip side, even though I'm now around Nevada casinos throughout the winter months, I still play, but it's maybe once every 10 days and for 90 minutes tops. In other words, recreationally and without goals or any real meaning--and nothing over $2. The days of sweating it out at the $10, $25 & $100 machines are over for me.

Maybe it was 3 royals, maybe it was 4. Who knows. If he can't keep his stories straight I'm sure as hell not going to be able to do so. But it was still 2 months, and using his statement of 90 minutes every 10 days at 500 hands per hour that comes to only 4500 hands with 3 or 4 royals and one A-C-E-S.

In all the time I've been reading about Rob's escapades there have been very few instances where he mentioned any loss, and since he claims an 85% win rate there wouldn't be many to see. He also claims to use a system of "soft profits" where he removes any win over 40 credits when he plays ARTT which he states greatly reduces the amount of any loss, something that has been conspicuously and inexplicably absent in his most recent win postings. There may be losses out there I'm not aware of, but based on his stated history, the "soft profits", and his purported "win rate" those losses are unlikely to amount to much. Perhaps another reader remembers scores and scores of losses being reported by him. Anyone? Bueller? That is of course unless Rob wants to fess up and admit there were huge losses he didn't mention before.

Kind of a situation eh Rob?

This post, and the one directly below it, is the post I mentioned earlier where Rob "leaves after meeting his win goal" by continuing to play. Readers can make their own judgements.

All of this is immaterial anyway. Rob's original statement was

Other than the past 18 months or so, I've always had average luck.

I maintain that with or without additional evidence, what the above represents is vastly different from "average luck". This has nothing to do with how much he did or didn't win, and everything to do with how for many, many years Rob has been reporting win ratio's on high value hands that defy common sense. There are no "special plays" that will get you a royal every 2-3 thousand hands, and even The Wizard's calculations on how many hands it would take to "maximize the number of royals at all costs" came to 23,081 hands and an expected return on JOB of 51.98%. I just don't find Rob's claims remotely credible, especially when considering the various other issues that seem to constantly surround him.

I think the problem with Rob is that he posts so much he can't remember what he wrote, which shouldn't be an issue with factual posts. It reminds me of when he posted here about his banishment at WOV. He wrote:

I ended up getting banned after verbally abusing MathExtremist for suddenly altering the parameters by requiring me to pay everyone's travel, food & hotel costs.

What he fails to remember is that he was banned at the start of that thread, not the end. It was JL2, whom I'm sure everyone will be shocked to find out sounded exactly like Rob and who was widely believed to BE Rob, who was berating Math Extremist. Nothing like a tacit admission to clear up loose issues.

Thine have met thy enemy, and thou art it.

A great investigative post by Spock.

[mickeycrimm]

I refer you to the multiple made-up/altered & desperately incomplete "quotes" inserted in your first time-consuming post above. Gee I tried but those 5 "links" from vptruth just don't seem to work.

The "made up" VPTruth posts? Yes, I have no doubt they were "made up": by you when you wrote them. But unlike you I have never, and would never fabricate anything. You've hung yourself so many times with your own words why would anyone need to make something up? And it's quite telling that you focused only on a minor portion of what I posted, the majority of which is relatively irrelevant, and ignored everything else. Most people can see that attempts to focus attention elsewhere and ignoring the issues are a tacit admission of guilt.

It is true that I can't supply links to those; you pulled them offline as soon as you realized people were able to use them to contradict other statements you made. Interestingly, GT pulled almost everything as well. There are scores of writers that have not posted for years and their articles are still available, but everything by you, and about you, has been purged. Fascinating, that. No wonder its taking so long for your "articles" to be posted. They don't know who you are! </snark> Since you wrote 'em and had them ready long ago why haven't you asked Alan to post them?

The wayback machine did archive the articles index of your VPFairyTales page and people can view that here:

VPTruth articles page on the Wayback Machine

Hovering over an article name shows the article number, which matches the ones I posted. (The 2009 statements were relatively innocuous and were included both to show that Rob wasn't always making unbelievable claims and for continuity, which is why I didn't bother to include file names. It's a riot that some of the few posts that do NOT make him look like an idiot, which also give a clue as to their authenticity, are the ones he's claiming are fabricated,.) There are some articles archived as well, but not very many: it's just hit and miss. I don't know why they didn't archive all the articles but I'd speculate that the hit count was so low that the robot's programming didn't find it to be worthwhile.

As for why I didn't include 2007, I have absolutely no information about that year. But since you are so accomplished at it Rob why don't you must make some stuff up and post it so we can all marvel at your tremendous success, or lack thereof, depending on whichever meme you want to be pushing this week.

I took screen shots of some of his most memorable tales, with one of the best being this one:



I do have others, such as the predecessor to this one where you stated 8 hours, not 5, but they were deeper within the text so they don't quite have the same graphic impact as the above. So go ahead Rob and rail against them as being made up, as everyone knows you will. That was exactly what showed on my monitor, was written by you, and it would seem to be a "deniable truth" if you are now refuting it. You could of course produce the original, but anything you would present at this point in time would be highly suspect.

Unlike you, grasping at any straw you can find to try and discredit your own statements, I don't have any need to persuade readers on the authenticity of my claims. I'm quite happy letting them make up their own minds, and judging by comments that are increasingly rejecting your claims, I'd say they already have.

See how little work it takes to make you stay up worrying about your mistakes tonight?

I had a wonderful nights sleep and your blather bothers me not a bit. Your posts roll off me like water off a ducks back.
I will admit that at one point I hesitated to post things because I didn't want to incur the "Wrath of Rob". But then I realized that your tirades are lame, unoriginal, and completely lacking in substance. Your attempts to discredit others deserve no more recognition than that of a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum. You are impotent, and the more you write the more others are able to observe that. Watching you flail around trying to find any minor detail to discredit me while ignoring the majority of the information is side slapping with the added bonus that with most of them you leave even more material with which you can be discredited.

As for my being Arci, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I don't even remember much of his posting style, but it most assuredly isn't even remotely close to mine. It also seems to be quite obvious that Arci has never been shy about letting you know how he feels, and I'm sure everyone would just love to hear your theory on why he adopted a sock puppet. This is yet another example of how clueless you really are. And so you know, I split my sides when you just had to repeat the same old lame claims about him and his wife. Twice. Hanoi Rob for sure.

But I will say one thing about Arci; I believe it was he who first made the claim that all you have to do is read what Rob's writing about others to know what affects him. Claiming I'm Arci? It's pretty indisputable that Rob has used sock puppets too many times to count so he thinks everyone does. Sweaty palms when opening casino mailers? I've certainly never done that and can't imagine anyone else does and find the concept to be completely unimaginable, so guess who gets those? Jealousy at other peoples wins? He can't help but offer "advice" to Alan every time Alan posts a win, trying to get people to believe he's a better player even though Alan seems to do just fine on his own. Intimidated by tipping? I tip because I appreciate the plight of those trying to get by and freely ignore anyone who is obnoxious about it, but somebody else doth protest too much. Sleepless nights? Lets just hope he took a nap so he isn't too grouchy today. Oops, too late.

So please feel free to enjoy your "Potemkin celebrity" Rob. Watching it crumble around you is worth every second I've spent showing the world your true colors.

I found something in the link to the Wayback Machine that Spock provided here and it brought back a memory. It was one of Singer's articles I read when it was published called "Skip Hughes Passes With Little Notice." I remember how disgusted I was at Singer's obituary of Skip Hughes. He totally dissed Hughes. The sad thing was Hughes' widow and kids read it. Singer you are one sad pathetic asshole.

Hughes did not pass with little notice. He lived in the golden age of video poker when sizeable edges could be found everywhere. Several dozen condolence posts rolled into vpFREE. Skip was inducted into the Video Poker Hall of Fame in 2006. At his death in 2010 a memorial was created on his Hall of Fame page where all of the condolences can still be read today. He had a huge impact on the video poker players of his day.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ATx7UNDdHgwLJK

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...aclPSs_V1PpaGB

And here is an excellent clinic given by Hughes on advantage video poker.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...MHDbr8u9Exw26N

[The Boz]

There has never been any argument Singer has a lot of socks in his drawer to wear.

The bigger question one has to ask is why?

I remember the nonsense with him at WoV years ago and how he kept coming back.

Like Alan, he has no use for math and common sense and a place that is based on those principals, is one you knew he couldn't last long at without being exposed.

[The Boz]

Not going to copy your entire post about Skip, but I think we can all agree we won't be seeing those type things said about Rob if we outlive him.

[Rob.Singer]

Skip Hughes died a broken video poker fraud. He busted out of LV thinking he would use "vp-ap play" and the casinos as his own personal ATMs, and had to move away to Calif. to find a job. His wife made him leave the gambling. But when that didn't work he defied the Mrs., as he went up to Carson City and got work as some assistant in the state govt. He died shortly afterwards.

Typical AP epitaph. His one good point was that he was not afraid of using his real name. That's a far cry from the collection of anonymous cowards who populate these forums.

[Rob.Singer]

Not going to copy your entire post about Skip, but I think we can all agree we won't be seeing those type things said about Rob if we outlive him.

Boz, this is where you little people just don't get it. What people chose to say about me in the past, choose to say today, In the future or after I'm gone, is completely irrelevant to me. You people see gambling as the #1 thing in your lives, with most of you having very little in the form of a family or real work life to be proud of. Why do you think a bum like mickey spends the better part of his waking hours on these forums. Because he recognizes where other story-telling anonymous losers like him like to "hang".

My professional vp career went on for ten years, and I'm probably the only one in VP history who lived his life first and prepared for a good retirement before entering it. Today, I enjoy road travel, my family, my homes, and agitating phony AP's while we live a life few if any of you ever will. That's my epitaph right there.

[kewlJ]

Not going to copy your entire post about Skip, but I think we can all agree we won't be seeing those type things said about Rob if we outlive him.

Boz, this is where you little people just don't get it. What people chose to say about me in the past, choose to say today, In the future or after I'm gone, is completely irrelevant to me. You people see gambling as the #1 thing in your lives, with most of you having very little in the form of a family or real work life to be proud of. Why do you think a bum like mickey spends the better part of his waking hours on these forums. Because he recognizes where other story-telling anonymous losers like him like to "hang".

My professional vp career went on for ten years, and I'm probably the only one in VP history who lived his life first and prepared for a good retirement before entering it. Today, I enjoy road travel, my family, my homes, and agitating phony AP's while we live a life few if any of you ever will. That's my epitaph right there.

Complete bullshit, from an irrelevant, bitter, old ghost. Anyone consumed with the hate and vitriol that you possess, in reality hates themselves, where they are at in life and what they have become....completely irrelevant. Just go away you old fool.

[Rob.Singer]

Not going to copy your entire post about Skip, but I think we can all agree we won't be seeing those type things said about Rob if we outlive him.

Boz, this is where you little people just don't get it. What people chose to say about me in the past, choose to say today, In the future or after I'm gone, is completely irrelevant to me. You people see gambling as the #1 thing in your lives, with most of you having very little in the form of a family or real work life to be proud of. Why do you think a bum like mickey spends the better part of his waking hours on these forums. Because he recognizes where other story-telling anonymous losers like him like to "hang".

My professional vp career went on for ten years, and I'm probably the only one in VP history who lived his life first and prepared for a good retirement before entering it. Today, I enjoy road travel, my family, my homes, and agitating phony AP's while we live a life few if any of you ever will. That's my epitaph right there.

Complete bullshit, from an irrelevant, bitter, old ghost. Anyone consumed with the hate and vitriol that you possess, in reality hates themselves, where they are at in life and what they have become....completely irrelevant. Just go away you old fool.

Spoken by an uneducated, confused, immature, wires-crossed sissy who lives with mommy, and who cannot live with himself without his creation of a virtual fantasy of an anonymous existence on the internet in order to get attention and feel relevant.

Just don't feel me.

[mickeycrimm]

Skip Hughes died a broken video poker fraud. He busted out of LV thinking he would use "vp-ap play" and the casinos as his own personal ATMs, and had to move away to Calif. to find a job. His wife made him leave the gambling. But when that didn't work he defied the Mrs., as he went up to Carson City and got work as some assistant in the state govt. He died shortly afterwards.

Typical AP epitaph. His one good point was that he was not afraid of using his real name. That's a far cry from the collection of anonymous cowards who populate these forums.

You hid behind a phony name until arci exposed who you really are.

[jbjb]

Skip Hughes died a broken video poker fraud. He busted out of LV thinking he would use "vp-ap play" and the casinos as his own personal ATMs, and had to move away to Calif. to find a job. His wife made him leave the gambling. But when that didn't work he defied the Mrs., as he went up to Carson City and got work as some assistant in the state govt. He died shortly afterwards.

Typical AP epitaph. His one good point was that he was not afraid of using his real name. That's a far cry from the collection of anonymous cowards who populate these forums.

You hid behind a phony name until arci exposed who you really are.

Rob's a pussy. Simple as that. Even Jerry Logan will agree

[kewlJ]

Rob's a pussy. Simple as that.

No...it really is much, much more than that. This Harry/Rob person is seriously a very sick person. Completely detached from reality. His claims have zero basis in mathematics. 4 royal in 5 hours play, playing only free play. Special magical plays. Progressive betting and stop limits turning -EV games into +EV.

It is all complete nonsense and apparently it has been going on for years, complete with dozens of sock puppets vouching and supporting him. The dude is seriously very ill. That is why he gets booted from most forums. Allowing him a place to continue this charade isn't doing him any favors and those of you enabling him are contributing to his illness. This has gone way beyond being comical.

[jbjb]

Rob's a pussy. Simple as that.

No...it really is much, much more than that. This Harry/Rob person is seriously a very sick person. Completely detached from reality. His claims have zero basis in mathematics. 4 royal in 5 hours play, playing only free play. Special magical plays. Progressive betting and stop limits turning -EV games into +EV.

It is all complete nonsense and apparently it has been going on for years, complete with dozens of sock puppets vouching and supporting him. The dude is seriously very ill. That is why he gets booted from most forums. Allowing him a place to continue this charade isn't doing him any favors and those of you enabling him are contributing to his illness. This has gone way beyond being comical.

Hes a scammer. His M.O. is to say he'll train you for free. You use your own money to learn. If you win, he wants a cut. If you lose, you're SOL.

[tableplay]

Like Alan, he has no use for math and common sense and a place that is based on those principals

And yet he claims to have been a successful Fortune 500 engineer. LOL

[MaxPen]

Like Alan, he has no use for math and common sense and a place that is based on those principals

And yet he claims to have been a successful Fortune 500 engineer. LOL

Maybe a broadcast engineer at a radio station. Broadcasting bullshit.

[Alan Mendelson]

Please do not criticize me for this but I need to check some alleged facts here. It was written above that Rob had said and/or accomplished the following and I'd like to know if these statements are true and if these events are possible. These come from kewlj's post.

His claims have zero basis in mathematics. 4 royal in 5 hours play, playing only free play. Special magical plays. Progressive betting and stop limits turning -EV games into +EV.

1. First question is, can you win at video poker without your win having a basis in mathematics? In other words can you get lucky? And hasn't Rob repeatedly said he plays conventional strategy which is based on math more than 95% of the time and why is this ignored?

2. Is four royals in five hours of play that impossible?

3. Is it also possible that he did have substantial free play offers and even banked and stored free play? (I used to regularly get $2500 of free play from Caesars when I played big.)

4. Did Rob ever claim that he made a -EV game a +EV game through progressive betting and stop losses? In all the years I followed Rob and spoke with him I never heard him say he turned a -EV game into a +EV game, but he did say he won money at -EV games. Is winning at -EV games impossible?

Mickeycrimm wrote something above that needs clarification. Mickey wrote that Rob " hid behind a phony name until arci exposed who you really are." Which phoney name was this? I ask because there have been so many allegations that I've lost track.

Jbjb wrote "Hes a scammer. His M.O. is to say he'll train you for free. You use your own money to learn. If you win, he wants a cut." I need some more information about this too. Who has been trained by Rob and then Rob asked for a cut of the win? By the way there were also allegations that Rob had his students play on his club card and this was never proven. In fact has anyone ever come forward to say they were actually trained by Rob?