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    I think it's time to remind everyone about the rules, and common courtesy whether it's in the rules or not.

    Let's stop the personal insults.

    For too many months I was lenient about allowing "insults" because I am thick skinned and I can take 'em. Others aren't as thick skinned as I am. I'm thick skinned because I have gone through a lot in my life.

    Today, however, I got an email from a long time forum member who said to me that the forum has dropped to new lows. Meanwhile I know that there are many, many readers who come here who don't participate because of the hostile atmosphere.

    I believe in the right of free speech and I am very liberal about it -- but it's time to ask you (the offenders) to tone it down.

    I don't want to be as restrictive as some other sites are, but if I have to, I will.

    I will even close down the forum. I don't need the forum -- and it certainly doesn't make me any money. As you can see, the most visitors we ever had on the forum at one time was about 400 and I am sure many of those were bots or spammers. My main website gets as many as 9,000 visitors a day. So, this forum is not my concern.

    Frankly, I'm in the TV business and not the website business and no one is going to offer me $2.3-million for this. (Wink)

    Be fair. Be square. Cut out the insults. Or, go away. And if you don't go away, I will ban you.

    And if you don't like the rules, start your own forum and your own website. I'll even let you promote it here. Just don't leave your garbage here.

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    Alan. While you're at it how about asking that the poster makes sense.

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    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Alan. While you're at it how about asking that the poster makes sense.
    That's about the same thing as closing down the forum.

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    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    That the poster makes sense.
    You mean, makes sense to you. Garbage.




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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I believe in the right of free speech and I am very liberal about it.
    You can dish it out, but I'm not so sure that you can take it.

    You lambasted me in caricature. I did less than reciprocate. Was quite civil actually. Honesty is fair play... forget the turnabout.

    You know what they say, if you can't stand the heat, then it's time to leave the kitchen.


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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I think it's time to remind everyone about the rules, and common courtesy whether it's in the rules or not.

    Let's stop the personal insults.

    For too many months I was lenient about allowing "insults" because I am thick skinned and I can take 'em. Others aren't as thick skinned as I am. I'm thick skinned because I have gone through a lot in my life.

    Today, however, I got an email from a long time forum member who said to me that the forum has dropped to new lows. Meanwhile I know that there are many, many readers who come here who don't participate because of the hostile atmosphere.

    I believe in the right of free speech and I am very liberal about it -- but it's time to ask you (the offenders) to tone it down.

    I don't want to be as restrictive as some other sites are, but if I have to, I will.

    I will even close down the forum. I don't need the forum -- and it certainly doesn't make me any money. As you can see, the most visitors we ever had on the forum at one time was about 400 and I am sure many of those were bots or spammers. My main website gets as many as 9,000 visitors a day. So, this forum is not my concern.

    Frankly, I'm in the TV business and not the website business and no one is going to offer me $2.3-million for this. (Wink)

    Be fair. Be square. Cut out the insults. Or, go away. And if you don't go away, I will ban you.

    And if you don't like the rules, start your own forum and your own website. I'll even let you promote it here. Just don't leave your garbage here.
    Alan, you had years to shut Singer down. But you didn't shut out Singer's insults. You are an enabler. Now what happens? A man, me, shows up on your site that will deliver every insult back to Singer. That's me and you know it. I refuse to kiss Singer's ass under any circumstances . I refuse to take any kind of an insult off the man without delivering the same shit back. Plain and simple I will deliver back an insult to any asshole on the planet like Singer who insults me. Singer is a died in the wool piece of shit. You enable him, Alan . You want to crack the whip? Then shut Singer down first. If you don't have the balls to do that then you are a phony piece of shit.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Alan, you had years to shut Singer down. But you didn't shut out Singer's insults. You are an enabler. Now what happens? A man, me, shows up on your site that will deliver every insult back to Singer. That's me and you know it. I refuse to kiss Singer's ass under any circumstances . I refuse to take any kind of an insult off the man without delivering the same shit back. Plain and simple I will deliver back an insult to any asshole on the planet like Singer who insults me. Singer is a died in the wool piece of shit. You enable him, Alan . You want to crack the whip? Then shut Singer down first. If you don't have the balls to do that then you are a phony piece of shit.
    And you watch your ass, Alan. If you don't think I have voice in this forum I damn sure have voice in other forums. n

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    I asked Rob to knock off the insults and so far he has. Now Mickey I am asking you to stop. I messaged ThomasClines but he didn't seem to "get it" and he's banned.

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    Good post Alan, looking forward to some discussions where I can tap all of you long time players knowledge.

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    Please don't ban Rob Singer, this is the only forum I know of to read Rob Singer.

    No matter whether you think his strategies are correct or incorrect,
    whether you agree or disagree with his philosphies,
    the guy is pretty damn entertaining and interesting to read.

    Banning isn't necessary, you can always just delete the insulting posts.
    Once he sees his work removed, that may frustrate him enough to stop posting outright insults.

    Same with mickey crimm, he obviously can't help himself with the insults...

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Singer is a died in the wool piece of shit. You enable him, Alan . If you don't have the balls to do that then you are a phony piece of shit.
    ...but just censor the insulting posts and let him stay aboard...he's another great read.

    If you need some help with monitoring, appoint some additional administrators, like the wizard has,
    I'm sure there are a few reasonable and trustworthy folks who would be willing to help out.

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    I messaged ThomasClines but he didn't seem to "get it". Wow that's a surprise!

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I asked Rob to knock off the insults and so far he has. Now Mickey I am asking you to stop. I messaged ThomasClines but he didn't seem to "get it" and he's banned.
    Okay. I'll knock it off if Rob does.

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    To be honest, I am surprised at the amount of trolling/insults here.

    While a lot of that goes on at my own forum, it's a different atmosphere over there, and pretty much a place where you can post things that you can't get away with on other poker forums.

    This place, while not initially set up as a gambling-related forum, has mostly evolved into a VP/Caesars discussion forum, and I think there's a lot of good information here. It's also not a young group (I'm 42, and definitely well below the average age here), so I don't see why this place has to devolve into what appears to be a bunch of children insulting one another.

    I think if people can disagree respectfully rather than turning the forum into an excuse to personally bash people, it will be a much more useful and inviting environment. I'm sure there's plenty of lurkers here who are afraid to post, believing they will get ridiculed.
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    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    To be honest, I am surprised at the amount of trolling/insults here.

    While a lot of that goes on at my own forum, it's a different atmosphere over there, and pretty much a place where you can post things that you can't get away with on other poker forums.

    This place, while not initially set up as a gambling-related forum, has mostly evolved into a VP/Caesars discussion forum, and I think there's a lot of good information here. It's also not a young group (I'm 42, and definitely well below the average age here), so I don't see why this place has to devolve into what appears to be a bunch of children insulting one another.

    I think if people can disagree respectfully rather than turning the forum into an excuse to personally bash people, it will be a much more useful and inviting environment. I'm sure there's plenty of lurkers here who are afraid to post, believing they will get ridiculed.
    Dan - I have not contributed in about a year. I lurk to find out the valuable information that YOU give about the CET 7 star program. I hate to contribute because I don't want to be accused of being an oh so special 7 star.

    But probably the main reason is - we (DH -seemoreroyals) and I and anyone else that showed up were suppose to meet up with Alan for coffee at the GGWU last year at 5pm. We got there a little early and waited to around t 5:30 and no Alan. What was his excuse - sorry folks - and "Funny Story- some guy was on a run at a craps table" WHAT!! He couldn't excuse himself and meet people from the forum.

    However, I do appreciate all your posts Dan and lurk on this forum to find valuable information about the CET program.
    (speaking of that - noticed on Seven Star Insiders - they added another 7 star signature event cruise from NOLA for Dec 14-21)

    I will keep lurking and hope you don't get discouraged by the mean spirited trolls on here.
    Last edited by sassycat; 11-09-2014 at 03:43 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    To be honest, I am surprised at the amount of trolling/insults here.

    While a lot of that goes on at my own forum, it's a different atmosphere over there, and pretty much a place where you can post things that you can't get away with on other poker forums.

    This place, while not initially set up as a gambling-related forum, has mostly evolved into a VP/Caesars discussion forum, and I think there's a lot of good information here. It's also not a young group (I'm 42, and definitely well below the average age here), so I don't see why this place has to devolve into what appears to be a bunch of children insulting one another.

    I think if people can disagree respectfully rather than turning the forum into an excuse to personally bash people, it will be a much more useful and inviting environment. I'm sure there's plenty of lurkers here who are afraid to post, believing they will get ridiculed.
    Oh that is rich!!

    Dan since you're such a mature and responsible poster do tell...

    Do you or do you not at the age of 42 still PRANK CALL people on the phone for your own perverse pleasure? You call people out of the blue pretending and disguising your voice and identity. Then you unleash insults and stuff (Chevy guy) on them.

    Once again Dan= pot=kettle.

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    Originally Posted by Dante View Post
    Oh that is rich!!

    Dan since you're such a mature and responsible poster do tell...

    Do you or do you not at the age of 42 still PRANK CALL people on the phone for your own perverse pleasure? You call people out of the blue pretending and disguising your voice and identity. Then you unleash insults and stuff (Chevy guy) on them.

    Once again Dan= pot=kettle.
    Not surprised that you would take offense to my post, since you're one of the biggest trolls here.

    The prank calls I make on my radio show (which are only occasional) are never mean-spirited, and never harm the party I'm calling in any way. The only exception involves known scammers or other major scumbags in poker, who deserve a little taking down (but even those are fairly tame).

    But what does this have to do with Alan's forum? Surely you can't make the case that I troll anyone here.
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    Originally Posted by sassycat View Post
    But probably the main reason is - we (DH -seemoreroyals) and I and anyone else that showed up were suppose to meet up with Alan for coffee at the GGWU last year at 5pm. We got there a little early and waited to around t 5:30 and no Alan. What was his excuse - sorry folks - and "Funny Story- some guy was on a run at a craps table" WHAT!! He couldn't excuse himself and meet people from the forum.
    I'm sorry that offended you, but I guess you don't play much craps. A couple of points:

    1. A run for a shooter is a rare event -- and you never want to leave.
    2. It is very poor etiquette to color-up and leave during a player's "hand" or turn with the dice. Try that at some casinos, and some guys might follow you to your car and smash your head into your windshield.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm sorry that offended you, but I guess you don't play much craps. A couple of points:

    1. A run for a shooter is a rare event -- and you never want to leave.
    2. It is very poor etiquette to color-up and leave during a player's "hand" or turn with the dice. Try that at some casinos, and some guys might follow you to your car and smash your head into your windshield.
    As a craps player for 40 years, I have to side with Alan on this one.

    One time many years ago (i was 23) I was at the Flamingo playing craps and a young "professional lady" in the lounge across from the craps table caught my eye. Having never partaken of professional companionship it was a long debate in my mind but I finally decided to jump in. Since I was with other lawyers and didn't want them to know, the arrangement we made was for me to go back to the craps table and her to walk by in 15 minutes and tap me on the back and I would follow her to the elevator.

    The craps game got hot--she came and tapped me on the back--and I said get the eff out of here. A hot craps game always wins out over sex. So cut Alan a little slack.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    A hot craps game always wins out over sex.
    This should be taught in every school, Sunday school class, and entered in every child's first story book along with "see spot run."

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    To be honest, I am surprised at the amount of trolling/insults here.

    While a lot of that goes on at my own forum, it's a different atmosphere over there, and pretty much a place where you can post things that you can't get away with on other poker forums.

    This place, while not initially set up as a gambling-related forum, has mostly evolved into a VP/Caesars discussion forum, and I think there's a lot of good information here. It's also not a young group (I'm 42, and definitely well below the average age here), so I don't see why this place has to devolve into what appears to be a bunch of children insulting one another.

    I think if people can disagree respectfully rather than turning the forum into an excuse to personally bash people, it will be a much more useful and inviting environment. I'm sure there's plenty of lurkers here who are afraid to post, believing they will get ridiculed.
    I don't post as much as before because of the antics. As a result, there's probably less than 10% of the posts that contain anything of actual value to me. I find that maybe another 10% are about the casino games I don't play (Which is fine. I'm wise enough to appreciate the skills and knowledge demonstrated by those contributors.) The remaining 80% is the silliness. As I said in another thread, it's all very much akin to toddlers in a sandbox throwing sand at each other: immaturity all around.

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