Dice Influencing: why not try??

[Rob.Singer]

Rob--why can't dice throwing be a learned muscle skill like hitting a golf ball how and where you want it to go. Why can't it be a learned skill like the guy that juggles fire and swords. Why can Greg Maddux have pinpoint control while other pitchers cannot.

I know from my own experience that when I played and/or practiced every day I had a much better grooved throw than I do now when I play twice a year. I never tried to sell my methods or publicize them in any way. I simply quietly went about my business. But don't assume that it can't be done because it definitely can. It is no different than any other learned and practiced skill, with the main and big difference being that if you do miss your spot (i.e. throw it wrong in any way), it then becomes a strictly random roll subject to the uncertainties of the square dice. But if that one bad throw is not a 7, then you are still alive and hopefully regain your stroke.

Greg Maddux can alter his speed, sometimes unknowingly, and be just as effective. Same with moving pitches around, whether purposely or not. In dice, you make even the slightest alteration in speed or accuracy and you're back to random.

That's because throwing dice is altogether different. I heard the baloney about "sliding" but when dice have to hit cones there is no chance of anyone having any influence of the outcome at all, whether they slid them or not. It's all in the mind, and those who've bought into the nonsense do so only because they're fascinated with the concept and possibly want and enjoy having mythical heroes who supposedly influence dice. It's something teenagers would come up with.

[redietz]

Rob,

What would say is the major down side to trying to do it if you keep your wagers the same and your time spent at the tables the same?

[jbjb]

... I heard the baloney about "sliding" but when dice have to hit cones there is no chance of anyone having any influence of the outcome at all, whether they slid them or not...

Actually, at the base of the table where it meets the pyramids, it's actual flat for about an inch up before the pyramids start.

[Alan Mendelson]

Actually, at the base of the table where it meets the pyramids, it's actual flat for about an inch up before the pyramids start.

Thank you for saying this. The goal of true DI is to hit the wall below the pyramids. When I got into trouble at Bellagio my dice were hitting under the pyramids and stopping against the wall. That the dice came to rest showing 5-4 three times in a row was just luck.

[FABismonte]

By the way, several employees in the craps pit were fired at the Wynn. Wonder why?

Hi Alan:

Do you think it is because they complained about Wynn dropping the free odds at the craps table? Wynn is unusual because its table game employees are part of the Transport Workers Union. My recollection is that when you are a union employee it is not so easy to be fired for no reason. Maybe those employees were probationary, supervisors or otherwise did not have traditional protections.

FAB

[Alan Mendelson]

Employees in the craps pit were let go shortly after the slide case became public. You decide for yourself if you think there was a connection. As I told the LVRJ you have dealers watching for slides. Yeah, you could get away with one... maybe.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob,

What would say is the major down side to trying to do it if you keep your wagers the same and your time spent at the tables the same?

This is the real question and I am waiting for the naysayers to come up with an answer. The point is -- it can't hurt to try. So, why not try?

[Count Room]

I am eternally optimistic that I can influence the dice into agreeing with my political views if I cajole them long enough.

(Yes, yes, I know it was a TERRIBLE pun, but it was rolling around in my head long enough to where it was irritating for me not to post this. Thank you.)

[regnis]

Quick poll. Which is harder to perfect---DI or WI (wife influence)?

Personally I can roll an 8 a lot easier.

[Rob.Singer]

This is the real question and I am waiting for the naysayers to come up with an answer. The point is -- it can't hurt to try. So, why not try?

Of course it can't hurt to try. You're supposed to throw the dice against the wall not somehow slide them. There's no point in doing that because it isn't according to the rules. And there's nothing wrong with casinos walking players out who are foolish enough to think sliding dice is something slick that they can get away with doing. Besides, these clowns who sell the DI baloney claim they can "influence" dice no matter what. It's so stupid and is just solid proof they failed in gambling so they're trying to get profits thru the gambling business. Like Anthony Curtis. These people have never fooled any sensible person.

[Rob.Singer]

Quick poll. Which is harder to perfect---DI or WI (wife influence)?

Personally I can roll an 8 a lot easier.

Maybe that's why Alan believes in DI??

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob I influenced three women to marry me. That's pretty good.
Regarding craps: you can have a legal throw that hits under the pyramids and doesn't bounce off. What it takes is practice and skill. It's okay if you don't have it. And clearly a lot of people who go to dice school don't have the skill either. But that doesn't mean DI isn't real. If it weren't real MGM and Bellagio and NYNY wouldn't have thrown me out.

[jbjb]

Rob I influenced three women to marry me. That's pretty good...

Or they suckered you :-)

[Alan Mendelson]

Jbjb trust me when I say this: I'm no great catch.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob I influenced three women to marry me. That's pretty good.
Regarding craps: you can have a legal throw that hits under the pyramids and doesn't bounce off. What it takes is practice and skill. It's okay if you don't have it. And clearly a lot of people who go to dice school don't have the skill either. But that doesn't mean DI isn't real. If it weren't real MGM and Bellagio and NYNY wouldn't have thrown me out.

I told you why they threw you out--they get irritated with people who try to work the system in which they try to keep under control. No one cares to have things manipulated during their watch. That's all it was.

OK if you had to somehow influence 3 women to marry you. Like being gay, it's a choice.

[redietz]

I told you why they threw you out--they get irritated with people who try to work the system in which they try to keep under control. No one cares to have things manipulated during their watch. That's all it was.

OK if you had to somehow influence 3 women to marry you. Like being gay, it's a choice.

Rob, ummm, that last line -- you know, that could reasonably be interpreted as an admission that you're gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.