Strategy for a BIG win??

[Alan Mendelson]

What would be your strategy if you needed a BIG win, or what you might call "a home run in the casino"?

For example, would you take your entire trip bankroll and make one bet with a low house edge such as putting it all on Pass or Don't Pass at craps, or putting it all on Red or Black at roulette and hope for the best?

Or, would you divide your bankroll into a defined number of big bets with huge payouts? For example let's say you have a $5,000 bankroll would you make 50 $100 bets on 12 at craps? Or would you make 50 $100 bets on the number 29 at roulette?

Or would you do just the opposite and make many small wagers on bets with the lowest house edge and hope variance favors you?

Or would you move up in denomination and make fewer bets but hope that one of the fewer bets made at a bigger denomination will pay off? For example, instead of using your $5,000 bankroll on $2 video poker you elect to play $25 video poker?

What would you do?

[jbjb]

For the hail Mary, bet it all on banker in baccarat.

[alpax]

I would not do it on a short burst on a table game since the comp rating is based on time.

I would do it higher than usual denomination video poker play and on a high variance game like 9/7 Double Bonus or 9/6 Double Double Bonus. At least you will accrue points on the players card.

[RS__]

A few considerations first: Win goal / size of big-win to be "sufficient". How much you need the money (ie: I have $5K and need to pay a loan shark $9K in a few hours, if I don't pay him he'll break my kneecaps.....or I have $5K, wanna go out and have fun, perhaps play for a while, hoping for a big win). As well as tolerance to losing.

If it's a "do or die" situation, I'd probably do something like martingale on pass or don't pass line in craps or perhaps banker in bacarrat.

If I wanted to go out and have fun while going for a big win, maybe I'd play craps, bet something like $260/270 across and power-press each number 3-4 times before taking it back (ie: "same bet"). Or if they have 10x odds, then maybe put $50 on DP and do max lays. That can be fun too. If I wanted to play machines, probably play a higher denom game, preferably one of the extra/bonus games like STP, DC, UX, etc. Or h*ll, maybe even a slot machine, like a $50-100/pull 3-reel type.

[Alan Mendelson]

To clarify the question: this is about winning money and has nothing to do with comps. Thanks for replies. Keep 'em coming.

[timspeed]

One large bet at Blackjack...but even still..i'm SURE you could find a wealthy person to simply bet a coin-flip with you...

[slingshot]

Whenever we inherited a lot of money l have to admit I studied for several weeks arriving at 4 years of planning (I constantly thought about it) using some of Rob's concepts to my total casino experience (not just VP) along with my personal concepts. The result was that I must have played 50-60 machines over a 6 hour period-losing $1,400. I had waited for the opportunity and when the chance finally came, I was SURE I was prepared and fell into the trap of believing a SYSTEM would guarantee big wins. I believe it was Mark Twain who said a person who believed he had a winning system in gambling must be a little insane. Following that experience, I vowed never to be so stupid again. Not only that, the last few trips (small wins) have shown me just how lucky a person is just to win small wins. Now I realize my 1,400 is peanuts to you guys, but the premise is the same. The only TRUE answer to your question is to being at the right game at the right time with the max bet. Some call it luck.

[Rob.Singer]

You want a big win? Then bring the appropriate bankroll and play my SPS vp strategy, and play it correctly. You'd be surprised at how many home runs I've hit, and you might too.

Putting a huge bet on a bj table or on any table gives you way too much chance of losing. And if you're afraid of being knee-capped, get yourself a good weapon and learn how to use it.

[jbjb]

Wisely, I don't need any of these approaches.

[RoeIncarnate]

If I wanted to waste some money and swing for the fence, I'd probably go for a 2/12 bet on craps. Maybe divide the money into 10 equal parts and make 10 back to back bets. If I win one, press by one unit. Leave after the 10 rolls. Hope you hit 2 or 3 times.

I'd expect to lose though.

[slingshot]

You want a big win? Then bring the appropriate bankroll and play my SPS vp strategy, and play it correctly. You'd be surprised at how many home runs I've hit, and you might too.

Putting a huge bet on a bj table or on any table gives you way too much chance of losing. And if you're afraid of being knee-capped, get yourself a good weapon and learn how to use it.

That's the only one I haven't tried. I'll have to reread it-it's not as easy as artt strategy. So starting at nickels, I would have to go to $2? What would be a good daily win goal should I win before reaching the $2 level? Thanks.

[redietz]

You guys and gals are overlooking the obvious. Alan didn't say you needed for the big score to happen immediately, just that you need a big score.

Sports futures. Case closed.

[OneHitWonder]

Alan didn't say you needed for the big score to happen immediately, just that you need a big score.

Good man redietz. (I saw this thead earlier, but didn't feel up to interjecting yet.)

In this way, the AP's are the same as every other type of gambler. Get rich goes with quick.

[regnis]

Horses!!!!

Big money opportunities for small investment.

[Alan Mendelson]

Yes -- any kind of casino bet qualifies.

What are sports futures?

[House of Orange]

Well if you know the Royals are going to win the WS, that knowledge won't pay the loan shark next week!

[redietz]

Sports futures can be "to win the Super Bowl," or "to win XYZ conference," or "to win the World Series," or "to win a division." They can also be to win/lose X number of games. Since Alan's question involved making a lot, not a little, that last category probably would not apply here.

Sports futures betting is a game of opinion; it can be beaten. Since odds can vary wildly from shop to shop, diligence is often rewarded. Another upside is that if you have a team at long odds, they don't necessarily have to do what you ask them to do to make a considerable profit, as you can have them positioned and then hedge the original wager.

Speaking of the Royals, we had them at 60-something to one to win the WS last year.

[regnis]

I bet I know which team you bet in game 7 Red.

[redietz]

Damn straight, regnis. What I found interesting was that the offshores that were most at risk if the Royals won were also the ones that limited me on the hedge bets. I actually got higher limits at those books that hadn't taken the original wagers. That surprised me a bit, and I don't get surprised too often at my ripe old age.