Robotic Arm and Dice Control

[Alan Mendelson]

So if you aren't willing to come up with proof, why even bother telling (posting) anything at all?

Like I said before -- the only "AP proof" I ever saw had a guy winning less per hour than what a regular job at In N Out pays. The "AP" was proud of what he accomplished. But it made me laugh.

Here's where I agree with Singer: why would the Wiz need to appeal for donations when he could have gone out and "won" the money?

Sorry for being harsh -- but during my news career I put people in prison for making claims about great returns on mortgage investments.

[Rob.Singer]

A lot keeps on being claimed about how "AP's" supposedly wish to stay under the radar. Then when you ask them why they always use a players card when claiming to be "stealth gamblers" you get a mumble and a stumble. Obviously, the casinos know exactly what their game is. People like Dancer even write and boast about it every week, and highly visible AP's like Wizard work both sides of the fence with him.

So let's hear one more time how AP's aren't going to be talking about their plays or their results on the internet--let alone offer up proof that they've been successful. In fact, the only AP's I've known to prove anything have been the ones who've proven they've lost! Wizard & his solicitation for cash; Dan Paymar and his move out of LV to the mountains outside of Santa Fe so he wouldn't be tempted to keep throwing his money into the FPDW poker machines on a daily basis; Skip Hughes, who went broke as a VP-AP after moving to LV and then after taking embarrassing donations from VPFree members he finally found a job in Carson City months before he died; "Stanford Wong" & Anthony Curtis" who both continually made false claims that they were so good at winning at card counting that they were banned at all casinos up & down the Strip (and subsequently had to open gaming businesses in order to survive)--a claim investigated by Gaming Today (me) and found to be totally false; Frank Kneeland who we discovered played a TON of VP but only with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY before he disappeared for good; and of course the famous Yuri Sorkin aka math professor at UNLV who lost his wages and entire life savings playing as an AP in LV and is now lost somewhere in Siberia for good.

And now we see we have a new crop. Let their stories be told. They are such entertaining creatures.

[Alan Mendelson]

When Jason and I took Frank out for lunch and he told us -- to our faces -- that he never played with his own money, I nearly fell off my chair.

[Rob.Singer]

That kind of discovery is exactly what I've been uncovering about the "famous names" and AP's for years, and it's what led to naming my first book The UNDENIABLE Truth About Video Poker.