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    This might surprise some of you who know about my history at Bellagio -- where I ran into a big problem in its craps pit.

    About a week ago I got a phone call from a host at Bellagio asking me to "come back" after not being there for many years. He made an offer that included comped meals plus free play and free room with a fountain view. I asked him if he knew about my "history" there and he said he didn't and there was nothing in the computer about me so the offer was "on" and I took him up on it.

    I played video poker but didn't have any luck. I was attracted to a progressive on the $5 games and the game I chose was 7/5 Bonus. I played for more than 90 minutes and no big quads. In fact, the only quads I hit were quad tens -- twice.

    I don't even remember getting any full houses so having a 7/5 pay table vs an 8/5 pay table didn't mean much -- or anything.

    Playing video poker only "earned me" about $50 worth of comps, so I was lucky to have had some comped meals.

    But my big "test" of the property would come at the craps tables: would I run into trouble because I set my dice and use care in throwing my dice as in an "influenced throw." I am happy to report there was NO problem.

    I played at only two craps tables during my stay -- and I had a modest win at craps, but not enough to offset my loss at video poker.

    At one of the craps table there was a stick kid (I have to call him that -- stick kid) who was more concerned about discussing some social events in his life than the game and that was a problem. Other than the "stick kid" the dealers were professional and friendly and it was a pleasure playing there.

    I happen to love the tables at Bellagio. They are the right size with a good bounce that's not too much. The lighting is also very good on the tables so you can see the dice pips. At Caesars, where I usually play, the lighting is bad on some tables and the dice can land in dark shadows.

    What I really like about Bellagio was that they offered the All-Tall-Small bets.

    I had the dice a total of 5 times during my trip, and two out of the five times I hit something on these "feature bets" as they call them.

    The first time I held the dice I hit the "small" which meant I rolled a 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 before a 7 and my $5 bet paid $175. It was a $15 table, by the way.

    The third time I held the dice I hit the small again, and then without rolling a 7, I continued to roll and I hit the "tall" which was the 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 for another $175 pay. But the headline here is that when you hit both the small and the tall you also hit the ALL and the ALL pays A LOT. It pays 172 to 1 and I had $5 on the ALL also. That was a nice pay. Ironically, I made only two passes -- just rolled a lot of numbers in between.

    My net win at craps was about $800. When I didn't have the dice I limited my betting to the passline plus $5 on each of the three featured bets.

    I mostly eat my meals using in-room dining or what is commonly called room service. The food was good, slightly lower priced than Caesars, and service speed was on par with Caesars where I am 7 Stars. I didn't get any preferential treatment at Bellagio. Bellagio does not include a tip on its room service checks, so I had to figure the tip. Frankly, I prefer Caesars system so I could quickly sign and get back to watching my movie.

    I posted a video about the bathroom in my room at Bellagio on my main website on this page: http://alanbestbuys.com/id240.html I compare the Bellagio bathroom to what I am used to in the Augustus Tower at Caesars.

    I ate at two restaurants at Bellagio. My first meal was a 1-am dinner in their 24-hour restaurant. I had a rib eye steak and it was very good, moderately priced, and service was very good. I also had a shrimp cocktail which was about standard for Vegas. No complaints. Jason and his girlfriend had dinner with me and they enjoyed their meals too.

    The next night the three of us had dinner at Yellowtail which is the Bellagio sushi restaurant -- and this was bad. Portions were terribly small -- and a lot smaller than what you'd get at Nobu over at Caesars, and it wasn't as good as Nobu's preparation either. The worst part of Yellowtail was that the kitchen was very slow -- but the wait staff was cordial and fast.

    For an example of the "slow kitchen" -- when we sat down I ordered Miso Cod but it didn't come out of the kitchen for about 50 minutes. When it came so late I asked for the manager -- he came over and gave me a song and dance about how it had to be prepared, etc. I told him at Nobu I'd get my Miso Cod in ten minutes or less. He took the Miso Cod off the check. But -- it was good.

    Jason and his girlfriend ordered several sushi rolls and items and two of them took a long time to come out of the kitchen and one of them had a problem with bones. That's bad. I would think twice about going back there.

    I really liked the overall casino at Bellagio. The crowd at Bellagio wasn't as rowdy as the "kid crowd" that now hangs out at Caesars. There also seeme to be cleaner air to breathe in the casino.

    Bellagio has One-Eyed Jacks video poker. I didn't play it, and I forgot to note the pay table.

    I did not see any full pay video poker games on the main floor, and I didn't look in the high limit gaming section. The $5 progressive was on the main floor and when I arrived Friday night the jackpot was at $28,800 and when I left Monday around 2am the jackpot was north of $30,000. There were 10 machines and I never saw more than 3 players.

    My room was nicely decorated. Note that Bellagio will not change your sheets unless you request them to be changed. If you want fresh towels, leave your used towels on the floor -- don't hang them up.

    There was security at the elevators to the rooms which I liked and security was there around the clock -- at Caesars there is security only at certain "high traffic" times.

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    Hi Alan:

    I am thinking of trying to dip my toe in the MLife system. My former host from Caesars Palace moved to Bellagio and is trying to woo me over there. He is offering more free play than Caesars has been offering me since the big cutbacks in January 2015.

    One of the reasons is the better VP. I see that VP free lists full pay (8/5) Bonus poker at 25 cents, $1, $2 and $5. Also full pay JOB at $2 and $5. Did you try to find those machines?

    Good hits on the Small, Tall and All at the craps table. It looks like an equivalent to the Fire Bet with less than half the house advantage. Were all the tables $15?

    FAB

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    FAB I did not see any full pay VP games -- but I didn't look carefully.

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    VP at Bellagio is scattered all over the place.

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    VP at Bellagio is scattered all over the place.
    Yes, this is true. Which is why I could not check out all of the machines. The VP machines are in all sections of the casino, sometimes you will find a VP machine mixed in with regular slots. There is no video poker section like you might find at Rincon or Caesars.

    By the way -- on Saturday night there were craps games from $15 to $50 minimums. Friday night I only saw $15 and $25.

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    For future reference...

    http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/bellagio-las-vegas

    Just note that things could be incorrect.

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    So far no comments about the bathroom video??

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    Just watched the video. I like having mouth-wash as well as body wash. I never bring mouth-wash (too annoying to pack), and I really prefer the body-wash soap instead of a bar soap. Never thought about the separate room for the toilet like they have at Caesars properties.

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    There was no safety seal on their mouthwash so I wouldn't use it.

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    Alan, thanks for the clarification of "in-room dining". ��������

    Also, the pc term for the "toilet room" is "water closet". ��

    I usually visit Bellagio when I am in Vegas but I don't end up playing there for very long because of the seating. I am a right-handed vp player. I deal, hold, and draw all with my right hand only. The chairs there are in a fixed position, not even centered, but very much to the right of the machine. I guess this is to make it easier if you are a two-handed player. But it is very awkward for a right-hand only player. So much so that it extremely influences my play there. It is very uncomfortable to me. Anyone else bothered by that?

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    Those were supposed to be laughing smiley faces.

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    I'm right handed. But honestly I'm not aware of how I hold cards-- right, left or both?? Now I will have to "observe myself" -- something else to add to my paranoia.

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    I just got an email from Bellagio and the front desk sent me a summary of my room charges. The summary included the price of the room that I was in. The room was comped but shows a price for each night. Never before have I received a room charge summary showing the "comp value" for the room. The summary also showed the food comps -- again something I never saw before.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I just got an email from Bellagio and the front desk sent me a summary of my room charges. The summary included the price of the room that I was in. The room was comped but shows a price for each night. Never before have I received a room charge summary showing the "comp value" for the room. The summary also showed the food comps -- again something I never saw before.
    It will make it that much easier for you to pay income tax on your gain!

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    Gain? I never claimed to have a yearly profit. :-)

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    Alan: I am glad to see you trying out "new" properties and giving trip reports on them even though you've been at the Bellagio in the distant past.

    Of course it's good to find the best VP pay tables and to try to get the best deals you possibly can from the casinos comp systems, yet variety is still the spice of life and being tethered to one casino chain can become really stale after a while.

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    Do they still have Olive's restaurant? I used to always stay there full RFB but regularly ate at Olives, which wasn't covered under the deal, because I loved it.

    Alan on your next visit you might try out their 10-play $25 machine for "fun". One spin will do. I did that on 8/5 BP and was dealt a pair of A's. Amazing that no hand improved, and I still got a signer.

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    Since I am not a big player by concentrating my play with one company I think I maximize my comps that way.

    I do admit that I really enjoyed my Bellagio visit. But I would have gone broke if I had to pay cash for the three nights plus meals that were comped and I only "earned" about $50 in "credits" from Mlife which only covered three in-room movies.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    Alan on your next visit you might try out their 10-play $25 machine for "fun". One spin will do. I did that on 8/5 BP and was dealt a pair of A's. Amazing that no hand improved, and I still got a signer.
    I don't know what to say? You had a break even hand for $1250 that generated a W2G?

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I don't know what to say? You had a break even hand for $1250 that generated a W2G?
    Aren't the IRS regulations just lovely? I'd rather win $1199.99 than $1200.00 even if it actually means losing a penny.
    Last edited by jbjb; 08-25-2015 at 08:22 AM.

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