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    Just got a call from a Rincon regular who said the rules for jackpot drawings in October were changed again and Rincon went back to its old nasty ways. You must claim your prize within five minutes. Again that means if you are in a restroom, restaurant, bar, poker room, buffet or your own hotel room you could be picked for a big prize but you could lose out because of the five minute time limit.

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    Morongo does that every Sunday, none of the regulars there have a problem with it. I think probably because the shape of the casino is more circular and easy to get around.

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    Originally Posted by alpax View Post
    Morongo does that every Sunday, none of the regulars there have a problem with it. I think probably because the shape of the casino is more circular and easy to get around.
    I guess the regulars at Morongo were never in their room when their name was called for $50,000 or missed hearing their name because they were in the poker room?

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    All casinos should have this change -- if you don't show up in 5 minutes (or some time frame), then they call someone else.

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    All casinos should have this change -- if you don't show up in 5 minutes (or some time frame), then they call someone else.
    But for several years some winners had until midnight. Others had ten minutes. And a month ago it was an hour. Now five minutes? Unfortunately in some parts of the casino it is impossible to hear the names called like in the poker room.

    A casino should have rules that are consistent and fair to all.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I guess the regulars at Morongo were never in their room when their name was called for $50,000 or missed hearing their name because they were in the poker room?
    You are correct that there have been people that miss out on the name being called for the examples you have cited. I know I bring up that college students have won the luxury car, but more often than not, it is the regulars who get called for free play or the luxury car.

    The regulars who know better to be on alert in between 6-10pm, they said they dine really late at 11pm-2am. to be able to hear their name and rush to claim their prize if called..

    The 5 minute rule ensures that the casino gives away all the available prize in front of many people present at the casino. I think some people would favor that aspect of the 5 minute rule.
    Last edited by alpax; 10-01-2015 at 03:40 PM.

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    What happens if the person doesn't show up? Do they call another person, or do they say "Ah, no winner this time!" and close up shop?

    If you're smart, you'll favor this rule change [assuming they call another person if the first guy doesn't show up], because you are more likely to win.

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    What happens if the person doesn't show up? Do they call another person, or do they say "Ah, no winner this time!" and close up shop?

    If you're smart, you'll favor this rule change [assuming they call another person if the first guy doesn't show up], because you are more likely to win.
    At Morongo Casino, they call names every half hour from 6 to 10, and after 5 minutes another name is called. Even if it overlaps if 6 names are not called, they will still honor the previous time and then call the name that is supposed to be scheduled.

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    I have been at a hot craps table, with me as the shooter, and had my name called. While I can tell someone in the craps pit to notify the contest people, I still needed to get to that area within about 15 minutes as the drawing was for one of those money booths where you grab flying bills. I kept rolling and missed my chance and they wouldn't just hold my spot in the booth for the next drawing a few hours later.

    People generally were getting between 300 to 1000 in the booth---- I was making more than that each roll at that point so I just kept rolling.

    But that is another problem with time periods for claiming prizes.

    They did wait the 5 minutes for me to "be there" to claim the prize, but since I never made it to the booth they didn't call a substitute prize winner which they would have done if I hadn't claimed in the 5 minutes. So they actually made out on the deal.
    Last edited by regnis; 10-02-2015 at 07:38 AM.

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    Originally Posted by alpax View Post
    At Morongo Casino, they call names every half hour from 6 to 10, and after 5 minutes another name is called. Even if it overlaps if 6 names are not called, they will still honor the previous time and then call the name that is supposed to be scheduled.
    Those are the best kinds of drawings, where they keep calling names until someone shows up. Is that the "hot-seat" promotion or whatever it is you're talking about, 6-10 every 30 minutes? Is it common for people not to show up when they've been called?

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    On some drawings at Rincon the prize money is forfeited if not claimed in time and no substitute is called. For other drawings a substitute is called.

    In the past there was no substitute for the $1,000 free play winners.

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Those are the best kinds of drawings, where they keep calling names until someone shows up. Is that the "hot-seat" promotion or whatever it is you're talking about, 6-10 every 30 minutes? Is it common for people not to show up when they've been called?
    To avoid the confusion, the 5 minute hotseats are at Pechanga casino. No names are called for those, if a player has their CLUB card in the machine, they will have a congratulatory message appearing on their screen that they won $100. On top of that, on the TV LCD screens, it lists the past 20 winners and a timestamp in which it was won. The free play does not expire for 30 days so "hopefully" people who won should have their prize.

    The 5 minute rule at Morongo is that they will call names and it is the winner's responsibility to claim it in person. They will keep calling names until the allocated 8 $1000 free play drawings and the luxury car is given away, that gives people a good feeling. I did not get a mailer for October for some odd reason yet.

    They do guarantee handing out prizes, I believe the record that I've been around for has been 9 names for the 10pm drawing which is for the luxury car. At 10:45pm some one claimed it right away. Casinos do have these promotions at the most inconvenient times for most people, where most people have to return to work the following Monday morning so they do not stick around to claim their prize. Most of the player live more than hour away from the casino so the management knows this and takes advantage.

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    On some drawings at Rincon the prize money is forfeited if not claimed in time and no substitute is called. For other drawings a substitute is called.

    In the past there was no substitute for the $1,000 free play winners.
    No wonder you are against this 5 minute rule. I understand and I do not blame you for your opinions. The Friday drawings, all the eligible winners who win slot play will have their cards automatically loaded.

    I do not seek to advance in Total Rewards so I have no intentions being at Rincon or Harrah's Southern California. I do not have the bankroll to play there either.

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    alpax we have something in common: neither of us will be at Rincon in the future.

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    Like fish in a barrel.

    Alan once again you just show your ignorance.

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    Originally Posted by Boygenius View Post
    Like fish in a barrel.

    Alan once again you just show your ignorance.
    You'll have to explain this.

    But what I know for certain is this: Rincon used to give players until midnight to claim the $1,000 of free play awarded at drawings at the end of the month. Then they changed the rules so you had five minutes to claim it and if you didn't the free play was lost and no substitutes were called. I protested and others protested and the "claim time" was extended to one hour, but still no substitutes. See: http://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showth...gs-rule-change

    Now Rincon is back to it's five minute rule. They couldn't even stick with their concession of the one hour time to claim the free play.

    Do you call that fair? They offered a one-hour concession for only one month, after having a policy for about two years that gave players until midnight -- and is that fair also?

    Get real: the casino is getting cheap, or cheaper. The same way that they lowered free play during the month, lowered pay tables, and cut offers and gifts for even its best players, and even after doubling the size of the hotel they can't even honor hotel reservations and promises to Seven Stars players that they can get a room.

    Why would you want to give them your business when you can get a fair shake from many other SoCal casinos and even from Vegas casinos if you must do business with a Total Rewards casino.

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    They are getting cheap.

    The five-minute rule is there to basically force you to sit in the casino if you want to win this stuff. And if you sit... you are probably going to play.

    They don't want you in your room, to where you can just tell a buddy to call you if you hear you name. They want you right there in the casino, so you're afraid to venture anywhere.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    You'll have to explain this.

    But what I know for certain is this: Rincon used to give players until midnight to claim the $1,000 of free play awarded at drawings at the end of the month. Then they changed the rules so you had five minutes to claim it and if you didn't the free play was lost and no substitutes were called. I protested and others protested and the "claim time" was extended to one hour, but still no substitutes. See: http://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showth...gs-rule-change

    Now Rincon is back to it's five minute rule. They couldn't even stick with their concession of the one hour time to claim the free play.

    Do you call that fair? They offered a one-hour concession for only one month, after having a policy for about two years that gave players until midnight -- and is that fair also?

    Get real: the casino is getting cheap, or cheaper. The same way that they lowered free play during the month, lowered pay tables, and cut offers and gifts for even its best players, and even after doubling the size of the hotel they can't even honor hotel reservations and promises to Seven Stars players that they can get a room.

    Why would you want to give them your business when you can get a fair shake from many other SoCal casinos and even from Vegas casinos if you must do business with a Total Rewards casino.
    Alan,

    I was going to blast you on this again, hence the harsh statement. But after your 100K royal all i can do for you as a gambler is give you respect. Hitting something that I have always dreamed about was truly a pleasure to see.
    With that said i would like to respectfully address your gripes with Rincon. Now keep it in mind that I am by no means a Rincon apologist. I feel their comp policies have been drastically reduced in the recent year as well as their overall treatment of players.

    You seem to have 2 main complaints about Rincon and their drawing policies. Let's address them one at a time.

    1. I guess the regulars at Morongo were never in their room when their name was called for $50,000 or missed hearing their name because they were in the poker room?

    The Rincon drawings are announced well over a year in advance. We all know for more than a year ahead of time that the main drawings are at 11 PM. With that being said if you are foolish enough to be in your room anytime after 10:45 PM then it's on you. You can relax in your room all day and all evening. At 10:45 walk to the elevator. Take the leisurely 1 minute stroll down to the casino. Wait until the drawing begins. Then at approximately 11:05 PM make your way back up to your room and continue whatever you were doing. It's as simple as that. From what I gather you kinda expect Rincon Management to personally knock on your door and inform you AND ONLY YOU about the winner of the drawing? Thus making an exception to all the thousands of other people who have adhered to the rules that were in place from the beginning? It is a casino and it is a promotion. The goal of a promotion is to draw people into the casino to gamble. Now you are entitled to circumvent this tactic by avoiding the casino for the 10 or so hours with which they would like you to be gambling by simply staying in your room. That's fine and dandy. It seems that you are expecting some sort of special treatment just because you gamble more than others? If you cannot see the problem with that then you may have personal issues.

    2. And this is where you show your lack of knowledge on the inner workings of Rincon. Even though you claim to be an expert about said subject. First of all you NEVER play poker at Rincon so why does it concern you about the poker room not being able to hear the drawings? It looks like your just fishing for an out to justify your logic. If it's not your business then you should not bother to engage in a subject with which you have ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE. And here is where you entire theory is blown out of the water: hook, line and sinker. The poker room at Rincon receives the names of the hourly winners 5 MINUTES BEFORE THE NAMES ARE DRAWN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT THE DRAWING STAGE. They call out the names to the poker players in the room as a courtesy. They in fact do this several times within the 5 minute window. If your name is on the list then you simply get up and walk over to the stage to claim your prize. It is in fact MUCH MUCH easier than hearing your name in the casino or drawing stage.

    Please try to respond and not spin my words any other way than they were written.

    Once again congrats on the 100K Royal.

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    IIRC, Alan said he's never stayed at Rincon. It's just Alan lashing out at them because he's not getting his $80 anymore.

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    Rincon has posted videos of the $50,000 winners who said they were up in their rooms when their names were called and made the mad dash to get there in time.

    Some of the monthly $1,000 free play prizes were never claimed -- and I was there at midnight to see that.

    I have heard from poker players that not only can't they hear the winners called, but there is no monitor in the poker room to display the winners' names. There is a monitor in the high limit room.

    I'm not here just complaining about what would benefit me. I am also relaying the complaints of others. Frankly, I've never stayed in a room at Rincon -- and I've never even been in one. And I don't play poker there.

    The fact is Rincon has changed its rules so that prizes aren't claimed. Do you really want to defend that? Has Morongo or Pechanga or Pala changed its rules in the past two years? Why has Rincon?

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    Alan all i can do is laugh at your responses. Do you even read what others say to you? I stated MULTIPLE facts about your complaints and all you do is spit out jibberish.

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