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Thread: What is my "long term" for video poker?

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    So much talk about the long term in video poker... so I wanted to figure out what my long term is?

    I am 63 years old. I hope to be going to casinos for the next 20 years. I see plenty of 83 year old folks going to casinos to enjoy the buffets... maybe I'll get to be one of them?

    Okay, so I'm 63 with 20 years of visits ahead of me.

    Let me hope that I can go to a casino once a month to play video poker for five hours. That's 5 hours X 12 months = 60 hours a year. Let's say each of those visits involves two days, so now I have 120 hours of play a year.

    I am not a fast player. I figure I play ten hands a minute, about six seconds each, and this takes into account when I hit a winner and the credits add up on the meter -- I like to watch that happen.

    10 hands per minute X 60 minutes per hour = 600 hands per hour.

    600 hands per hour X 120 hours per year X 20 years = 1,440,000 hands which is my long term.

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    83? That's all? 90 year olds constantly get in my way with their walkers :-)

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    I'm a lot younger than you, but I'm certain I'll play way less hands then that. Mostly because my vp play doesn't consist of five hour sessions.

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    I play a bit less than that per year, but I'm a few years younger, so let's say my long term is also 1.5 million hands. Arci, are you there? How representative is 1.5 million hands of an infinite number of hands?

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    Once a month??? Yeah, right.

    I've been going once a week and staying for two nights. I will play over a half millions hands this year alone. However, since my game is being removed my play will drop to nearly zero unless I decide to visit Vegas again.

    For the games Alan play (AFBP), he should be quite close to expectation in less than a million hands. I think they had an equation over on vpfree. I

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    Arc at Bellagio they have One Eyed Jacks starting at $1. I didn't look at the pay tables but what pay table do you need to play it? I will be back there this coming week -- staying there instead of Caesars for the Great Gift Wrap Up.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Arc at Bellagio they have One Eyed Jacks starting at $1. I didn't look at the pay tables but what pay table do you need to play it? I will be back there this coming week -- staying there instead of Caesars for the Great Gift Wrap Up.
    There are a couple of good pay tables. I play the 4000-1000-375-250-15-5-3-2-1 version (100.28%). I doubt their game is anywhere close.

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    Originally Posted by arcimede$ View Post
    There are a couple of good pay tables. I play the 4000-1000-375-250-15-5-3-2-1 version (100.28%). I doubt their game is anywhere close.
    I will check when I go. I also doubt Bellagio has anything close to full pay. I can't even find 8/5 Bonus there.

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    Dunno how up to date this is, but maybe it'll help.

    http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/bellagio-las-vegas

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    Gee....I wish I could sit at the poker machines for a half million hands. Quite the life going to an Indian casino for 2 nights every week. Maybe I'll text my daughter in Gem Lake, Mn. and let them know what they're missing out on!

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Gee....I wish I could sit at the poker machines for a half million hands. Quite the life going to an Indian casino for 2 nights every week. Maybe I'll text my daughter in Gem Lake, Mn. and let them know what they're missing out on!
    The casino has a nice golf course which I also play each day I am there in the summer. They also put me in a two room suite due to my level of play. Add in an exercise room, a spa and a couple of nice restaurants and most people would consider it more like a vacation. All comped of course. Did I mention free wifi? Yup, it is just awful that I am able to enjoy what most people would consider a nice vacation each and every week. Oh yeah, and I've made a bundle of money to boot.

    Leave it to Singer (or should that be Beaver) to once again make a complete fool of himself.

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    What was this purpose of this thread, Alan? Just to figure out how many more hands of VP you're going to play in your lifetime?

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    Arc I only wish I had the time to enjoy all that many casino resorts have to offer. In my case I love the shows and the restaurants. What is great about Vegas is that so many fine restaurants are within walking distance and that also means you don't have to drive and pay $18.50 for valet parking in Beverly Hills... or half that in Malibu or Santa Monica or Pasadena or the Melrose Avenue area.

    Unfortunately you can have only one lunch and one dinner per day in Vegas but there are half a dozen restaurants I would love every day and don't forget about the luxury of room service and relaxing and watching movies. I average six movies per weekend and that's not a lie. Frankly it's the only TV I watch. While I make TV I don't watch it. (Don't tell my advertisers that.)

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    What was this purpose of this thread, Alan? Just to figure out how many more hands of VP you're going to play in your lifetime?
    I think redietz figured it out.

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    Originally Posted by arcimede$ View Post
    The casino has a nice golf course which I also play each day I am there in the summer. They also put me in a two room suite due to my level of play. Add in an exercise room, a spa and a couple of nice restaurants and most people would consider it more like a vacation. All comped of course. Did I mention free wifi? Yup, it is just awful that I am able to enjoy what most people would consider a nice vacation each and every week. Oh yeah, and I've made a bundle of money to boot.

    Leave it to Singer (or should that be Beaver) to once again make a complete fool of himself.
    Yeah, I guess when you have to do things alone then you might as well try to keep your mind busy so you don't keep kicking yourself over mistakes of the past. Funny thing though: I've looked at every day being a vacation day since I retired, whether I stay home, RV, or travel somewhere via car. I don't need casinos to "make my day". Problem gamblers do.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Arc I only wish I had the time to enjoy all that many casino resorts have to offer. In my case I love the shows and the restaurants. What is great about Vegas is that so many fine restaurants are within walking distance and that also means you don't have to drive and pay $18.50 for valet parking in Beverly Hills... or half that in Malibu or Santa Monica or Pasadena or the Melrose Avenue area.

    Unfortunately you can have only one lunch and one dinner per day in Vegas but there are half a dozen restaurants I would love every day and don't forget about the luxury of room service and relaxing and watching movies. I average six movies per weekend and that's not a lie. Frankly it's the only TV I watch. While I make TV I don't watch it. (Don't tell my advertisers that.)
    Exactly. Singer is a delusional fool if he thinks enjoying a nice trip with good food, good entertainment, and social interaction with other nice folks is a bad thing.

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    I was shocked at the quality of entertainment and the venues at some of the bigger Native American casinos like Pechanga and Cherokee. I don't recommend the gambling, but I recommend them as resort destinations.

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    Pechanga really does have great concerts -- far superior to Rincon and the other casinos in the area. In the Palm Springs area the casinos there also get great acts and shows.

    Rincon despite their new ballroom still lacks in getting the big acts.

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    Originally Posted by arcimede$ View Post
    Exactly. Singer is a delusional fool if he thinks enjoying a nice trip with good food, good entertainment, and social interaction with other nice folks is a bad thing.
    Never said that arci. You really do need to do something about your pathological online lying.

    Having good food while enjoying good entertainment and talking to others isn't a bad thing. But it can be done without habitually needing to go to casinos to do it. I'll bet you can't, and now that you're free I expect the only other thing you do between now and grim reaper day is drive to Nevada. If you do let me know. I have a 58-yr. old widowed cousin there whose husband just passed away, and she's doing the same thing you are.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Never said that arci. You really do need to do something about your pathological online lying.

    Having good food while enjoying good entertainment and talking to others isn't a bad thing. But it can be done without habitually needing to go to casinos to do it. I'll bet you can't, and now that you're free I expect the only other thing you do between now and grim reaper day is drive to Nevada. If you do let me know. I have a 58-yr. old widowed cousin there whose husband just passed away, and she's doing the same thing you are.
    Funny, when they took out the OEJs machines at my nearest casino I stopped playing for two years. I will completely change my routine when the OEJs games are removed from the casino I've been using. Probably visit only in the summer when I can play golf. As usual you don't understand anything at all about advantage play. Probably why you failed.

    PS. Not looking for anyone at the moment even though I have had ample opportunities.

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