What is my "long term" for video poker?

[Rob.Singer]

I have read the back-and-forth in the Rob/arci forum war, and I have never seen arci stoop to the level Rob has recently regarding arci's wife.

If you want to insult the guy because you have a long-running trollfest going between you two, that's fine. But you really have to draw the line at some point, and rubbing the death of his wife in his face is definitely where that line should be.

I don't think anyone is enjoying reading that here -- even the ones who otherwise enjoy watching you two fight.

Come on, Rob. You're 62 years old. Act like it.

Dan, you're missing the point: HE DOESN'T CARE about what went down with his wife or what I say or how justice has been served up to him after his years of stalking & lying. All he has ever loved is sitting at the vp machines, then trying to force his views on everyone else. Can you not just picture him, at the wake, proclaiming how she was not doing so well, the odds of her pulling through were not good, "but don't you just love how the math worked out so nicely?"

He's a despicable human being and he got bit hard. Tough love.

[Rob.Singer]

Almost everything Rob writes about is pure nonsense. He's basically swinging for the fences every time he plays. Well, when he used to play, supposedly. Given the huge amounts of cash he claims to have and the winning system of his, I'm surprised he doesn't drive out to LV 1-2 times a month and plays $1 to $100 SPS or ARTT. He could still file taxes as a professional gambler and have plenty of time with his lovely wife in his motorhomes. But instead, he plays $0.25 to $2 SPS/ARTT, or something like that, because he claims he wants time to be at home with his wife and can't file taxes as a pro any more for some reason. Whatever. More nonsense.

Rob is banned on every gambling forum and is the laughing stock of all professional gamblers.

No big surprise how you keep making it up on the go. Something you'll never have: pensions, ss, 401k...equate to retirement. Constantly going to germ-infested casinos is not any reasonable retiree's definition of a quality life, and it's actually a sickness for anyone who doesn't do it professionally AND successfully. Once every month or two should be fine for anybody looking for entertainment. I just bought a house for entertainment, and I just ordered a 2016 Charger Hellcat to put into our garage. All with cash. The latter I have to wait for. Even that's more entertaining than going to casinos all the time.

Wise up. Or you'll end up like arci.

[slingshot]

I would just pray that, for Cindy's sake it would stop. From all I've read over the past 10 years, she seems like a wonderful person and you said you believed that what goes around comes around and I think she's needed. You have nothing to fight for, anyways. I've shown several people the basics of artt and they just smiled WHILE I WAS WINNING and walked off. It's always gonna be that way.

[quahaug]

Don't worry about Arci, he can take it. He's not as big of an A-
hole as Rob but he can dish it out pretty good! (Check out videopoker.com forums "shadowman" vs. singer threads)

[redietz]

I don't care if Rob lives in a motor home, an apartment, a cave, or under a bridge. I don't care what stakes he plays. None of that affects the validity or lack thereof of his video poker strategy. I also don't care who died in arci's family due to what, because that similarly has no bearing on the validity of how he plays video poker.

What does concern me is Rob selling the mystical, magical nonsense of personal tragedy being the result of some karmic comeuppance. Rob has preached that here, and it basically amounts to religion of some kind. So Rob is not only promulgating his personal BELIEFS regarding video poker, but he is allowed to repeat time after time his personal religious beliefs on a gambling forum. This is inappropriate at best.

Picture me claiming that worshiping Satan was the key to my lifetime winning at sports betting, and that all of you Christian/Jewish/Muslim dolts were losing and getting what you deserve because you don't worship Satan, and that every tragedy and disappointment in your lives was because of this. Picture me posting this every other day. I think Alan would pull the plug on me pretty quickly. Rob basically does the same thing by claiming his "righteous" life and personal beliefs have resulted in him having a wife who is alive and a motor home and video poker winnings. It's just ridiculous. These posts are a form of personal religion and do not belong on a gambling forum.

[Count Room]

<snip>...Picture me claiming that worshiping Satan was the key to my lifetime winning at sports betting, and that all of you Christian/Jewish/Muslim dolts were losing and getting what you deserve because you don't worship Satan, and that every tragedy and disappointment in your lives was because of this. <snip>.

Redietz: I know you're trying to convey a serious message elsewhere in your post, but for a second or two I gave passing thought to buying candles and red spray paint for making a pentagram in my basement. Phew!

[Alan Mendelson]

Redietz: I know you're trying to convey a serious message elsewhere in your post, but for a second or two I gave passing thought to buying candles and red spray paint for making a pentagram in my basement. Phew!

This gave me a laugh from an otherwise sickening exchange of posts.

Rob is 100% wrong in his behavior. I posted this before and I told Rob this on the phone and to his face: he is his own worst enemy. His own posts destroy his credibility and he has failed to see it.

While I asked Rob to stop I also asked Arc to stop. Neither has. It's true that Rob has the PhD in this war for piling it on high and deeper.

I was hoping that one day Rob would just tire of it. He will never accept that his war of words will be how he will be remembered -- and his VP knowledge and gambling knowledge will be lost and forgotten.

No one wants to even consider the credibility of his system because he doesn't know when to shut up.

[Count Room]

Of a much more serious consideration: What about the Sandy Hook shootings where almost two dozen 1st graders were shot to death in their classroom? How could it be possible that young children being brutally victimized like this would

be the result of Karmic retribution for their actions when their brains weren't even close to being fully developed, much less having the opportunity of committing the "sin" of arguing with Rob Singer for years about video poker?

[RS__]

This gave me a laugh from an otherwise sickening exchange of posts.

Rob is 100% wrong in his behavior. I posted this before and I told Rob this on the phone and to his face: he is his own worst enemy. His own posts destroy his credibility and he has failed to see it.

While I asked Rob to stop I also asked Arc to stop. Neither has. It's true that Rob has the PhD in this war for piling it on high and deeper.

I was hoping that one day Rob would just tire of it. He will never accept that his war of words will be how he will be remembered -- and his VP knowledge and gambling knowledge will be lost and forgotten.

No one wants to even consider the credibility of his system because he doesn't know when to shut up.

Maybe.....it's not credibility that he is losing....it's credibility he's trying to gain? But of course, fails at it.

[Rob.Singer]

I don't care if Rob lives in a motor home, an apartment, a cave, or under a bridge. I don't care what stakes he plays. None of that affects the validity or lack thereof of his video poker strategy. I also don't care who died in arci's family due to what, because that similarly has no bearing on the validity of how he plays video poker.

What does concern me is Rob selling the mystical, magical nonsense of personal tragedy being the result of some karmic comeuppance. Rob has preached that here, and it basically amounts to religion of some kind. So Rob is not only promulgating his personal BELIEFS regarding video poker, but he is allowed to repeat time after time his personal religious beliefs on a gambling forum. This is inappropriate at best.

Picture me claiming that worshiping Satan was the key to my lifetime winning at sports betting, and that all of you Christian/Jewish/Muslim dolts were losing and getting what you deserve because you don't worship Satan, and that every tragedy and disappointment in your lives was because of this. Picture me posting this every other day. I think Alan would pull the plug on me pretty quickly. Rob basically does the same thing by claiming his "righteous" life and personal beliefs have resulted in him having a wife who is alive and a motor home and video poker winnings. It's just ridiculous. These posts are a form of personal religion and do not belong on a gambling forum.

Well imagine that--red's looking at this as if arci has never written anything hateful or nasty about myself or my family over the years. Get the whole picture before the lectures.

Karma because of vp strategy or AP nonsense has nothing to do with my message. Arci's simply received the butt end of fate and is being laughed at and ridiculed by me for being disrespectful and telling constant lies about myself and my family for a number of years. Soak it in and you won't get so ruffled. And I don't care one bit about any suffering he might have gone thru or is going thru. Despicable people like him learn serious lessons from events in their lives. This is his time for paying the piper. And I'm all smiles

[Rob.Singer]

This gave me a laugh from an otherwise sickening exchange of posts.

Rob is 100% wrong in his behavior. I posted this before and I told Rob this on the phone and to his face: he is his own worst enemy. His own posts destroy his credibility and he has failed to see it.

While I asked Rob to stop I also asked Arc to stop. Neither has. It's true that Rob has the PhD in this war for piling it on high and deeper.

I was hoping that one day Rob would just tire of it. He will never accept that his war of words will be how he will be remembered -- and his VP knowledge and gambling knowledge will be lost and forgotten.

No one wants to even consider the credibility of his system because he doesn't know when to shut up.

Alan, I understand your thoughts on this. But as I've said many times, I have credibility with my entire family as well as with all the people I've worked with in business around the world. That's what's important to me. I also have lots of cred with the people I've trained and advised on something as unimportant as vp. I'm not interested in hacks like RS__ or jbjb or any of their ilk believing I'm credible because they're so misguided they'll have to just hope for better days ahead on their own. I respond to arci because he's made a personal game out of stalking me on various forums since he can't stand my success from one end of the spectrum to the other. He simply lost this one big time.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob I don't know who started it between you two -- and it started long before I joined any forum. But I will say this: the bigger man will be the first to stop it.

[arcimede$]

Rob Singer offers VP strategies and advice, Rob seems to want to help us win.

Who is arcimedes and what does he offer, besides endless attacks & criticism...of both Rob & Alan?

Singer provides fiction. I provide mathematically accurate information that anyone could verify at any university near them. The big question is why would anyone want information from someone who is claiming all the mathematicians in the world are wrong. Do you really believe Singer is smarter than these scientists? If not, then exactly why are you supporting a known liar and con man?

[Alan Mendelson]

Singer provides fiction. I provide mathematically accurate information that anyone could verify at any university near them. The big question is why would anyone want information from someone who is claiming all the mathematicians in the world are wrong. Do you really believe Singer is smarter than these scientists? If not, then exactly why are you supporting a known liar and con man?

Arc you've been saying this a long time. But how exactly is Rob saying that the mathematics and the mathematicians are wrong? It seems to me he is taking the mathematics into account but playing differently hoping to get lucky to connect with a winner that will beat the theoretical expectation.

[coach belly]

I provide mathematically accurate information

What information do you provide?

I see plenty of insults, wise cracks, criticisms, absurd assertions, and name-calling from you
....where's the info hidden among all that?

why are you supporting a known liar and con man?

I don't know Rob to be a liar or con man...what has he lied about?...who has he conned?

I know that he calls you out as a liar...have you lied about him?

[arcimede$]

What information do you provide? I see plenty of wise cracks, criticisms, absurd assertions, and name-calling from you....where's the info?

The info is all over the internet. It is called advantage play, optimal play and mathematics. I didn't invent any of it. If you don't understand something then you should probably ask questions instead of making silly assertions.

I don't know Rob to be a liar or con man...what has he lied about?

I know that he calls you out as a liar...have you lied about him?

He has been caught in so many lies I lost count.

1) He claimed to have all kinds of documents to support his many claims in a storage locker in AZ. He has yet to provide one single shred of evidence.
2) He claimed to have won over a million dollars but would not send his tax returns to Alan for verification after claiming he had already sent them.
3) He claimed to live in a big house in Carefree, AZ but when I checked his records it turns out it was a small apartment from which he appears to have been evicted a few years ago.
4) He masqueraded as another person on this very site. Alan caught him using his IP address.
5) He claimed his wife is an engineer but she has no degrees in engineering.
6) He originally claimed to have a 6 step progression but when pressed he admitted he only used the 6th step 3 times (which is doubtful in any event).
7) He claims to have had 3 mathematicians verify his system yet no mathematician could support that junk and he has never provided those names.

Do I need to go on? This is the tip of the iceberg.

I get the suspicion you are not who you say you are. Do you have a connection to Rob?

[coach belly]

If you to like to chase losses by raising your bet, then be forewarned.

Wouldn't any further play following a loss be "chasing losses" ?

What should I do after a loss...quit playing forever?

What difference does it make whether I raise the stakes or not...am I not chasing with whatever bets I make?

[arcimede$]

Arc you've been saying this a long time. But how exactly is Rob saying that the mathematics and the mathematicians are wrong? It seems to me he is taking the mathematics into account but playing differently hoping to get lucky to connect with a winner that will beat the theoretical expectation.

Get serious. Singer has been claiming for years that you can't win as an AP. Pure nonsense. He claims his special plays make a difference. Math tells us they don't.

[coach belly]

If you don't understand something then you should probably ask questions instead of making silly assertions

I haven't made any silly assertions, I have read what you have written on this forum and see mainly insults and wise cracks.
What value does that add to the discussions?... it looks to me that you are here to insult and pick fights with Alan and Rob.

Do I need to go on? This is the tip of the iceberg.

Because he did not provide proof of his claims doesn't prove that he lied.

None of your 7 examples provide evidence that he lied...all are pretty weak examples.

For instance, I worked as an engineer during summers through college, my job title was "engineer",
but I had no engineering degree...I was a student. Is there some kind of lie there?

I get the suspicion you are not who you say you are. Do you have a connection to Rob?

I have no connection to Rob....your suspicions are likely due to your own paranoia.

Perhaps you are duplicitous, so you assume that everyone else is too.

[Alan Mendelson]

Get serious. Singer has been claiming for years that you can't win as an AP. Pure nonsense. He claims his special plays make a difference. Math tells us they don't.

Allow me to punch some holes in your statements:

1. I know an AP who went bust. There was nothing wrong in what he was doing but the "cards" and the machines just didn't cooperate with his "advantage plays." I am sure he's not alone.

2. Special plays in video poker can make a difference IF you get lucky and they hit. Frankly, making the correct plays in video poker is no guarantee that the RNG will cooperate. I make the correct plays ALL THE TIME and I don't use Rob's special plays -- and sometimes I don't win. Actually, until recently, I lost a lot more than I won using the "correct plays." You see Arc, using the right plays doesn't mean you control the RNG... but you knew that.

Below is a photo example of a "play" that both Rob and the APs will agree on. I couldn't have done this any differently than anyone else. LOL