Is Bob Dancer saying break the law?

[Alan Mendelson]

OMG Alan, I regularly booked 4-6 hotels for 10+ years just to get as many of the freebies as we're offered. They don't stop sending offers after one or two stiff trips. After a while you learn how to work THEIR system to your best advantage with some higher limit play.

Rob, I'm not a high roller like you. I can't book four to six hotels. I couldn't afford to play in even two hotels. Preach to a richer parish. I can't afford your congregation.

[Dan Druff]

I wouldn't risk it. Whatever the extra free play I would get from a second casino isn't worth taking any chances. Honestly... would I really want to book a second hotel just for $300 of free play? Why bother?

You wouldn't book a second hotel for $300 freeplay, when using said freeplay simply involves going down the street and quickly checking in to a 2nd room?

You must not value $300 as much as I do.

Honestly there isn't a "risk" here, unless you totally no-play one of the casinos. Are you really a slave to ADT every time you visit Vegas? I doubt you are. You probably just play what you feel like playing. Your offers are based upon a trend of your play, not a particular visit when you play a little bit less.

[redietz]

I'd book it for a free lunch.

Who knows? Maybe Alan found himself in some sticky situations with multiple simultaneous rooms -- you know, double-dating as opposed to double dipping.

[Alan Mendelson]

Yes Dan I run into trouble when my play varies. I don't know how you guys pull it off but when there is a fluctuation in my play I hear about it. At Caesars I'm still being hurt from a bookkeeping problem from six months ago when I was falsely shown to play and lose $60 at roulette on a weekend I wasn't even in the city. That error cut my offers by half and my host still hasn't been able to fix it.

[slobdinger]

This column by Bob Dancer made me think twice -- three times even:

http://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/bob_dancer/2016/0105.cfm

Is he suggesting to players that they break the law to wrangle additional comps out of casinos?

The line that got me concerned is when he wrote: "Some of the previous items might be legally fraudulent. Usually you won't be caught, and if you are, usually you won't be prosecuted."

Wow, if I do get prosecuted is he going to pay for my legal defense? If I only "get caught" will he make up for the future offers I will lose?.

Bob was just making a statement of fact. You usually won't get prosecuted. He doesn't ask anyone to break the law. He pointed out that some player's won't take advantage while others will. And he is asking others what they would do in the situation.

[Rob.Singer]

Mickey, learn to read instead of how to drink. You only admire Bob because he's a first class sleaze and that gets your juices running. Slugs like you always thinks it's "cool" to break the law without getting caught. Dancer has stolen meals from hotels, pretended to be a Military vet just to impress others, and has written about several other loser-scumbag things he's done in his wasted lifetime.

Instead of constantly apologizing for him, you ought to be up on Mt. Olympus praising the hell out of his being too cheap and selfish to have ever had children.

[slobdinger]

Mickey, learn to read instead of how to drink. You only admire Bob because he's a first class sleaze and that gets your juices running. Slugs like you always thinks it's "cool" to break the law without getting caught. Dancer has stolen meals from hotels, pretended to be a Military vet just to impress others, and has written about several other loser-scumbag things he's done in his wasted lifetime.

Instead of constantly apologizing for him, you ought to be up on Mt. Olympus praising the hell out of his being too cheap and selfish to have ever had children.

No, it is you, NPD Rob, who needs to bone up on YOUR reading skills. You cannot point to one sentence where he advocates double dipping airfare. You are a slug who has absolutely no use for any kind of scientific gambling. Consequently, instead of trying to learn something, you have nothing to do but troll. So troll on, troll.

[Rob.Singer]

Mickey, if you had any education past the 5th grade you'd be able to comprehend that the only type of writer who writes about the "what-if" sleazy opportunities in the world, is a low-life who does them.

Dancer is and has never been anything more than a lifelong gambling addict who is constantly looking for fradulent ways of getting back at a world that had his number long ago. I understand your attachment to a creep like him. You've never had a worthwhile relationship with a woman and with a history of alcoholism, hitchhiking, drifting and joblessness, you naturally idolize someone who wouldn't know how to treat children because he never knew how to treat a smart wife.

Dean Zamzow once told me: Dancer has zero math capabilities and only knows vp values because his program figured it out for him. Eventually, your hero wanted more money from the relationship to throw into the poker machines and Dean wouldn't do it. Shirley got the best of the pretender also. The only question left is, how much will Bonnie take him for?

[slobdinger]

Mickey, if you had any education past the 5th grade you'd be able to comprehend that the only type of writer who writes about the "what-if" sleazy opportunities in the world, is a low-life who does them.

Dancer is and has never been anything more than a lifelong gambling addict who is constantly looking for fradulent ways of getting back at a world that had his number long ago. I understand your attachment to a creep like him. You've never had a worthwhile relationship with a woman and with a history of alcoholism, hitchhiking, drifting and joblessness, you naturally idolize someone who wouldn't know how to treat children because he never knew how to treat a smart wife.

Dean Zamzow once told me: Dancer has zero math capabilities and only knows vp values because his program figured it out for him. Eventually, your hero wanted more money from the relationship to throw into the poker machines and Dean wouldn't do it. Shirley got the best of the pretender also. The only question left is, how much will Bonnie take him for?

NPD Robbie, how does it feel scratching a losers ass all day? Bonehead, instead of writing fiction all day for years in the gambling forums you could have applied that to writing fictional novels. At least you would have had a chance to make a little money.

Dancer and Zamzow were getting out competed by Jim Wolf of Wolf Video Poker. His software had a strategy generating component that Winpoker still doesn't have today. Zamzow wouldn't update the software and sales declined....so Dancer moved on from Zamzow to someone who had software (Video Poker For Winners) that had the strategy generating component.

Now, which software do I personally recommend? I moved from Winpoker to Frugal Video Poker to Wolf Video Poker. WVP is an updated version of Frugal with many more bells and whistles on it. I use WVP almost exclusively. Not exactly a ringing endorsment of Dancer or his product, VPFW, is it? I dont' even own it because of it's deficiencies.

And besides, what in the hell would you know about math anyway?

[redietz]

Mickey, if you had any education past the 5th grade you'd be able to comprehend that the only type of writer who writes about the "what-if" sleazy opportunities in the world, is a low-life who does them.

Dancer is and has never been anything more than a lifelong gambling addict who is constantly looking for fradulent ways of getting back at a world that had his number long ago. I understand your attachment to a creep like him. You've never had a worthwhile relationship with a woman and with a history of alcoholism, hitchhiking, drifting and joblessness, you naturally idolize someone who wouldn't know how to treat children because he never knew how to treat a smart wife.

Dean Zamzow once told me: Dancer has zero math capabilities and only knows vp values because his program figured it out for him. Eventually, your hero wanted more money from the relationship to throw into the poker machines and Dean wouldn't do it. Shirley got the best of the pretender also. The only question left is, how much will Bonnie take him for?

I'm going to say you're wrong on this. Since Shirley was the one who hit the big jackpot and gave it with him, Dancer actually took Shirley for a ride. Also, you have to figure Dancer enters into relationships as an advantage play. He's pretty cold.

[slobdinger]

This is not written to Rob. Rob doesn't care about stuff like this. He's to busy running everyone and everything that is not named Rob Singer down. It's written to the rest of the members of bestbuys. What is my knock against Video Poker For Winners? It's what I've read about the software in the past. The information came from knowledgeable gamblers.

In another thread here you've seen LoneStarHorse and others discussing $5700 royals, $4400 royals, etc. With Wolf Video Poker I can punch in any royal amount and analyze it for payback and strategy. It's doesn't matter if the royal pays $5746, $7383, $8672, I can punch in the exact amount of the royal and get the exact information I need.

From what I've read about VPFW, you can't do this. You can punch in a 4000 coin royal or a 6000 coin royal or an 8000 coin royal. You have to use these rounded numbers so you can't pinpoint anything. I got this information from reviews I've read on the software. Unless the software has been updated I have no use for it. It's to much of a pain in the ass to make those adjustments myself when I can just run it on WVP.

You don't get this kind of information from Rob Singer. He doesn't give one wit about anything that has to do with the nuts and bolts of gambling. He's to busy trashing the messenger instead of analyzing the message. Rob trashes every prominent person, along with anyone else, who doesn't agree and fall in line with his methodology.

What can you learn about the nuts and bolts of gambling from Rob? Nothing. But if you like reading tabloid journalism about prominent gamblers then he's your man.

[RS__]

VPW, you can enter any amount you'd like for the Royal, as well as other hands.

[slobdinger]

VPW, you can enter any amount you'd like for the Royal, as well as other hands.

Then they must have updated the software. But thanks for the correction. I'd rather be corrected than continue to give information that isn't accurate.

[Rob.Singer]

What would you know Mickey. You might as well have provided info on how to read with understanding or how to become a trusted party in a close relationship.

[slobdinger]

What would you know Mickey. You might as well have provided info on how to read with understanding or how to become a trusted party in a close relationship.

I know a hell of a lot more about gambling than you do, martingale robbie.