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  1. #21
    I also never filed a report or asked for anything when I fell and broke 3 ribs in my room in Caesars Palace.

    Again, this was not their fault. I fainted because I was sick, and the injury occurred when my ribs struck the ground.

    This was the same trip where they wanted to charge me for the infamous "$48 Gatorade", which I refused to get, and which Rob still refers to every time he brings my name up.

    But many others in my shoes would have lied about having been sick, and would have blamed the fall on something wrong with the Caesars room, and sued them for tens of thousands of dollars. All I wanted was some reasonably priced Gatorade to get fluids back in my body.
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  2. #22
    Remember, you're playing with fire. Say you get a few Thou$sand or less. The fact that you tried to recover for the injury they might ban you for it. They've banned people for a lot less.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by VPJunkie View Post
    Remember, you're playing with fire. Say you get a few Thou$sand or less. The fact that you tried to recover for the injury they might ban you for it. They've banned people for a lot less.
    I've thought of that, too. But if Alan can show them that the glass on their door really was sharp (which I'm assuming he can/did), they won't ban him. There seems to be little doubt that this injury really occurred as described. They would only ban someone for falsifying an injury.

    They get injury claims all the time at CET properties. That's why they have a full-time Risk Management department.

    Alan is in fact one of the least likely to get banned, because he has a long history of mid-high limit play there. He won't be seen as some professional victim looking to get rich off of them. Instead, they will see it as a loyal customer getting injured as a result of a defectively manufactured door.

    I dealt with Risk Management at the Rio once, but not about an injury. During the 2009 WSOP, a high-wind thunderstorm blew into town. My car was parked outdoors at the Rio WSOP lot. They had been doing construction at the lot, and they didn't tie down their equipment well enough. It came out of the ropes and blew into my car, causing about $700 in damage.

    I demanded the Rio pay for the repairs. At first I got some pushback, where they called it "an act of God" (not true, since they were negligent in not tying down their equipment when a storm was coming), and also trying to push me to sue the third-party company they hired during the work (again, not true, because it was the Rio's lot, and they are responsible for damage caused by contractors they hire.)

    After weakly trying to argue these points, they backed down and cut me a check for the amount of the repair.

    I did not worry about getting banned, because there was no doubt that their construction equipment blew into my car, and they knew I just wanted to get the damage covered.
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  4. #24
    What door / entrance was this? If I read it correctly, sounds like it's the seven stars valet entrance, near the special events / diamond lounge area? I may check it out sometime. What's with the timing, exactly? Door stays wide-open for X amount of seconds, then closes slowly or quickly? Not sure what part of the timing you're referring to (how long until it starts closing or how long it takes to close or something else?).

  5. #25
    RS__ see my video. From the time you swing open the door it closes in about four seconds. If you do not continue to hold the door as you walk in it will slam into you. In my case when the door closed the beveled glass edge caught the top of my right hand ripping the skin. When walking in the door's edge was on my right. Just watch the video. I don't think doors are supposed to close in about 4 seconds after opening fully. Do you? What if there is a child next to you, or you are unaware the door is about to hit you? A heavy glass door even with a beveled edge can do damage. And it did. Caesars dispatched an EMT who saw it and filed a report.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I've thought of that, too. But if Alan can show them that the glass on their door really was sharp (which I'm assuming he can/did), they won't ban him. There seems to be little doubt that this injury really occurred as described. They would only ban someone for falsifying an injury.

    They get injury claims all the time at CET properties. That's why they have a full-time Risk Management department.

    Alan is in fact one of the least likely to get banned, because he has a long history of mid-high limit play there. He won't be seen as some professional victim looking to get rich off of them. Instead, they will see it as a loyal customer getting injured as a result of a defectively manufactured door.

    I dealt with Risk Management at the Rio once, but not about an injury. During the 2009 WSOP, a high-wind thunderstorm blew into town. My car was parked outdoors at the Rio WSOP lot. They had been doing construction at the lot, and they didn't tie down their equipment well enough. It came out of the ropes and blew into my car, causing about $700 in damage.

    I demanded the Rio pay for the repairs. At first I got some pushback, where they called it "an act of God" (not true, since they were negligent in not tying down their equipment when a storm was coming), and also trying to push me to sue the third-party company they hired during the work (again, not true, because it was the Rio's lot, and they are responsible for damage caused by contractors they hire.)

    After weakly trying to argue these points, they backed down and cut me a check for the amount of the repair.

    I did not worry about getting banned, because there was no doubt that their construction equipment blew into my car, and they knew I just wanted to get the damage covered.
    One day at a local casino a waitress dropped a cup of hot coffee in my lap. It was an accident--she was a klutz. The supervisor came over and wanted me to fill out all kinds of paperwork. I said no--I was fine--that I didn't think I had been burned. All I asked was that they pay for a new pair of pants. At first they refused and said they would pay for the dry cleaning. I told them coffee stains don't come out in dry cleaning. But they insisted.

    Well--the stains did come out but I couldn't just let them off that easy. So I brought in my underpants which were completely stained and wouldn't come clean to show them how saturated I was and hinting at a burn claim. They agreed to pay for the new pants. I had to bring them my receipt for reimbursement.

    I'm sure I could have gotten a lot more out of them but didn't want the waitress to lose her job. She is actually still there and I still won't get a coffee from her.

  7. #27
    Regnis, I salute you. I'm sure a (male) jury would have been sympathetic to "scalded penis."

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    One day at a local casino a waitress dropped a cup of hot coffee in my lap. It was an accident--she was a klutz. The supervisor came over and wanted me to fill out all kinds of paperwork. I said no--I was fine--that I didn't think I had been burned. All I asked was that they pay for a new pair of pants. At first they refused and said they would pay for the dry cleaning. I told them coffee stains don't come out in dry cleaning. But they insisted.

    Well--the stains did come out but I couldn't just let them off that easy. So I brought in my underpants which were completely stained and wouldn't come clean to show them how saturated I was and hinting at a burn claim. They agreed to pay for the new pants. I had to bring them my receipt for reimbursement.

    I'm sure I could have gotten a lot more out of them but didn't want the waitress to lose her job. She is actually still there and I still won't get a coffee from her.
    You sure that was just a coffee stain?
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  9. #29
    Well--hard to tell.


    Red--try not to picture this as you may become ill but imagine me offering up my dick at trial as Exhibit A.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I also never filed a report or asked for anything when I fell and broke 3 ribs in my room in Caesars Palace.

    Again, this was not their fault. I fainted because I was sick, and the injury occurred when my ribs struck the ground.
    I don't recall but were you sick from food poisoning from eating their food?

    A viewer told me they got food poisoning and Paris, and received a $5,000 payment for becoming ill, after informing the casino/hotel of their illness.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I don't recall but were you sick from food poisoning from eating their food?

    A viewer told me they got food poisoning and Paris, and received a $5,000 payment for becoming ill, after informing the casino/hotel of their illness.
    I got sick in some way at Rincon.

    It's not clear what got me sick there. May have been the food, may have been something I touched there.

    It wasn't a food poisoning illness. It was some kind of bad stomach virus.

    I drove to Vegas from Rincon not realizing I was sick. I felt tired toward the end of the drive, but just blamed it on being late at night.

    By the time I was unloading my car and getting ready for bed at Caesars, I was really feeling tired, but I still didn't connect it to being sick.

    I remember a weird experience of going up the Caesars Augustus Tower elevator when returning from parking my car, and there was some early-20s girl in there. She tried to make conversation with me, but all I could do was mumble a few words back. When she walked out, she rudely said, "Try to loosen up dude, you're in Vegas, stop acting so uptight."

    I still didn't realize anything was wrong with me until I woke up in the morning, still felt exhausted, and oddly did not feel the slightest bit thirsty. I also recalled that I didn't drink anything before going to sleep. This was unusual for me, as I usually have something (non-alcoholic, that is) before and right after bed. Here I was waking up and had no thirst.

    Two hours after being awake, I forced myself to drink water, but it was very tough to force myself to get it down. I still didn't figure out what was going on, until I felt like I had to vomit about 15 minutes later.

    I said to myself, "Crap... I bet this is going to be a bad one."

    About 10 hours later, I fainted from dehydration. The funny thing is that I knew to watch out for dehydration, but let my guard down because I was able to drink about 3 hours earlier (and it stayed down), so I thought everything was going to be okay. Big mistake.
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  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Bill Yung if I showed my thumb would you say the logo doesn't match the denomination?
    Perhaps a subconscious penile thought on marriage? Interesting, how others picked up on that in their own ways later on.


  13. #33
    I watched the video, it just wasn't too clear if you were holding it open more or not or what all was happening, since it didn't show it from the third person POV (i.e.: as if someone else videoed you + door).

  14. #34
    You need to get hold of the Zapruder tape that clearly shows there was another doorman.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    I watched the video, it just wasn't too clear if you were holding it open more or not or what all was happening, since it didn't show it from the third person POV (i.e.: as if someone else videoed you + door).
    When I opened the door and was hurt I used my right hand. I was on the phone and the phone was in my left hand. After opening the door my right hand dropped to my side and the closing door hit the top of my right hand.

    I shot the videos with my phone in my right hand. I opened door with left hand. I could not open door with my right because I was afraid of opening the cut and of pain.

    I don't think it matters which hand was used to open the door. The point is this door closes in four seconds and that's too short of a time. Right hand or left hand -- it's a quick close.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    You need to get hold of the Zapruder tape that clearly shows there was another doorman.
    Ah, the life of a television reporter. Everywhere a story.

    If the Wizard can have a "don't litter" sign in the middle of nowhere, I suppose it's okay for Alan to have a mystery door in some casino.

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  18. #38
    Received a letter today from a law firm representing Caesars. The letter said they tried to phone me. BS.

  19. #39
    Damn't. I was out shooting a new TV show video today and the wound opened up and started bleeding. I haven't posted any photos of the wound or the bleeding so far, but I just might to point out how these heavy glass doors can injure.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    When you get there, see if they adjusted it so that it closes more slowly.

    "OK" is relative. The wound continues to ooze blood. I am concerned it is not healing. It's now been 5 days.

    Earlier today Linda gave me the official "disgusting" reaction.
    Alan,
    We went through that set of doors multiple times. The "fall" of the door after being held fully open seemed more than reasonable to us so maybe they did make an adjustment. You will have to be the judge next time you're at Caesars.
    Those style doors are all over the strip.

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