My daughter has celiac disease and was at a gluten free restaurant. During the dinner time, with the restaurant full, the owner makes an announcement to everyone in the joint: "I'm sorry," he announces, "we just found out that one of our items has gluten in it."Originally Posted by regnis
Several people were rushed to hospitals, including my daughter, for treatment. Of course the restaurant paid those who became ill.
I think it's curious that the claims adjustor at Caesars who was assigned to my case has been sent all sorts of documentation including medical receipts from my attorney and has said only that she is waiting for a report from Caesars hotel -- whoever that might be. This claims procedure is taking quite a long time, especially since it only took a couple of days for Caesars to decide to adjust (fix) its door.
The claims representative for Caesars Palace is now asking my attorney why I didn't report a problem with the "mechanics" of the door when I was injured? Huh? Was I supposed to know there was a problem with the mechanics? At the time of the incident I reported to their security what had happened and their security treated me for my injury and their security agent filed a report about it. Now, they are asking why I didn't diagnose and report the mechanical problem?
Well, they certainly knew there was a problem -- because they adjusted the closing speed of the door and the force of the door after my injury.
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It's not your job to diagnose or report a mechanical problem, just like it's not your job to ascertain based on a quick visual scan that something is wrong with the door. I don't like this because it suggests if you went in or out of the door previously, she is saying that you should have noticed a problem with the closing speed. It implies the onus is on you to judge the safety of the door and its speed.
If you announce that you had noticed something wrong with the door, and you had gone in or out of the door previously, then that implies you were at fault in using the door. That's bunk.
My initial reaction to this is that they have some sort of precedent or case law to quote (later) in support of the notion that doors aren't inherently safe, and require a degree of care in use. Were someone drunk, and holding out fingers deliberately, who would be to blame?
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They are trying (stupidly) to establish that you are making up the problem with the door after-the-fact.
That is, they want to claim that you hurt yourself first, and invented the problem in the door much later (such as days or weeks later, after thinking of a way to blame it on them).
So they're trying to ask, "If the faulty door injured you, why didn't you report it as being faulty at the time?"
But you did do that. You just didn't specifically mention what was wrong with it mechanically -- something you are not required or expected to do.
Just lame sneaky lawyer tricks, but it's not likely to succeed.
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I wish this had happened to someone else and i was still on the news.
Just cut them a check and it'll all be over.
This is typical of the legal business these days. Your claim has some value to it, but they will spend more to defend it than it is worth and still ultimately have to pay you. Plus, they may alienate a long time customer.
You have the ability to hurt them in the form of bad publicity which I hope you will consider if they keep screwing with you.
Just curious--do they have their own security footage in that doorway or just yours? I would assume there are cameras at all entryways and throughout the whole casino. You might want to request those tapes. They will refuse short of a lawsuit and a subpoena but it may keep them from destroying them.
Regnis,
Don't quote me on this, but I think the Caesars response will be that those tapes are wiped in 48 hours.
I was tempted to deface the hand of one of the Caesar statues with some red food dye.
Just negotiate for a special 9/5 BP game that only you can play and in exchange you'll drop the issue. :-)
I would have taken my subpoenas and financial damages to Small Claims Court myself early on. Fill out five or six simple pages of forms about what happened when, and what you want with interest. A couple hour's work in filling out forms, copying, filing, mailing and transit to courthouse. Nothing like doing something yourself. A real learning experience. Relatively simple case. Judges like lots of pictures, etc.
You will have a hell of a time ever seeing ANY of their tapes, or even their gaming/security officials, in court. All manner of ways in casino law out of producing such evidence, or appearing to bring it. Even if win, they show up to court some time down the road to plead no contest or an equivalent. At which point you will have a lot of unrecoverable expenses, and more copying, etc. (Their copying to all parties is a sign of no end in sight.)
I've been in similar progression of events two or three times. You gain an intuitive feel for what's happening. They will likely produce some innocent document/minor contract you signed (ages ago and forgot about), or something from case law and the like. These were the few cases I didn't win. Were the judge pretty much declared a draw, save the expenses of the other sides I paid (a few thousand here and there depending on limit allowed at the time), because the other sides didn't bring what was asked for, and were otherwise evasive on the stand.
Last edited by Bill Yung; 08-02-2016 at 10:05 AM.
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Never injured, though.Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Growing up on the farms, many a time I turned off some chunks of skin on palms and fingers while working. Sometimes, you don't think to put on gloves until the hands get sore. Sometimes, the gloves don't prevent blistering, etc. Looks scarier than is. But it ALWAYS grew back leaving no scars. Even the fingerprints. That what skin does. It's when the fat and muscle below are revealed that you need stitches to keep the skin over top. Otherwise it will heal with a depression where the skin used to be.
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Caesars has their own security tape. They told my attorney they have it.
When I had a dispute and filed a claim with Indiana Gaming, I demanded a copy of the tape knowing they wouldn't produce it. However to my surprise, the woman handling the case for the Gaming Board did have the tape (and this was months later) and we discussed it on the phone with me explaining to her what she needed to look for as she watched the tape. I don't know if they kept the tape because I filed a complaint right there at the time of the occurrence, or if they keep all the tapes. But she did watch it and reviewed it with me.Originally Posted by redietz
In my case, the claims rep said they had the tape and confirmed that I was holding my cell phone in my left hand. As I entered the door was closing on my right side and my right hand was caught. It was on July 14 that the claims rep told my lawyer they had the tape. My injury was on June 24.
Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 08-03-2016 at 03:34 AM.
Just back from my doctor. I developed a secondary skin infection from the wound and antibiotics. This sucks.
If you have a medical problem from this accident Alan, get the proper attention. Use your health insurance. Make it easy on yourself. Why are you wanting CET to pay you anything? Is it worth all this time-wasting, esp. since you still work? People have accidents like this all the time in their homes, in other people's homes, and elsewhere, and the great majority of them are handled without people trying to mooch money from a big company just because they're a big company. One of the biggest problems in this country is people thinking they can sue because of some minor issue with their feelings hurt, and in the end get a big check. How'd your daughter's suit go in Tucson?
Did Dan put you up to this thread just to get ratings for his flop?
I hope you don't do the usual huff & puff and "I'll call my lawyer on you in the morning!", but if you do I'm letting you know that I feel stupid for still posting on this board because hardly anyone reads it, and I won't be reading anything here any more. In fact, unlike the great days in the early 2000's of vp_heaven, there is absolutely nothing of any value left for gaming posting forums. vpfree is full of weak, dumb players who love their free buffets. When wizard sold his soul to foreigners after humiliating himself in order to keep liquid after his gambling failed him, it was well known then that those idiot members of his were going to scatter throughout any forums that allow posting, and ruin them. That's exactly what's been happening here, and now it's left with scraps.
The gig is up for all this nonsense. I'm surprised I spent any time at all in the past 6 months posting anywhere.
Yes Rob I am getting treatment. Yesterday I spent an hour with one doctor about the new skin infection which was diagnosed as a secondary infection from the Caesars accident. Then I had to consult with my transplant doctor to be sure I could safely take the new medicine that was being prescribed. And then I went to my pharmacy to get the new medicines. Yes I have health insurance.
I forgot that Alan had a kidney transplant.
That could actually help him here, as his past health issues (combined with the infection AND being over 60 years old) could easily gain sympathy with a jury, whereas a young guy making these same claims could be dismissed as exaggerating a minor injury.
Caesars attorneys may actually take this under consideration and give a better settlement offer.
Pretty sure this will never go to trial, either way.
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