Where does the sucker go when you have it up/down as far as it can go? At the point it disappears. When infinity to the infinity pops. Where there are no more mathematical conventions or terminologies.

I believe that the approach to the point becomes the point. That there is nothing harder, more ordered or indivisible, than matter. The point is what happens when that ever-harder matter gives way to something "fluid". The same way the seemingly endless mental order to things gives way to something "solid" when approached from the other way.