Big video poker mistake

[RS__]

So I am right and wrong.....depending on how u choose to play.....that's why I say that holding 4to a flush vs any pair as advertised by all the great poker gurus is not entirely correct because there is always the expected value of a 4of a kind in that particular hand which they did not calculate or ignored it out of fear of risking a little to gain something big......

Every single hold is calculated. The one with the highest EV is the proper hold. Yes, the low pair has value in hitting a 4oak, but a 4 flush has greater value, at least in most games.

Some games you hold AAA over FH, sometimes you hold 222/333/444 over a FH....and in other games you don't.

[jbjb]

Every single hold is calculated. The one with the highest EV is the proper hold. Yes, the low pair has value in hitting a 4oak, but a 4 flush has greater value, at least in most games.

Some games you hold AAA over FH, sometimes you hold 222/333/444 over a FH....and in other games you don't.

These guys want to "gamble" and get lucky. I want to consistently profit! That won't happen "gambling."

[james40]

These guys want to "gamble" and get lucky. I want to consistently profit! That won't happen "gambling."

To quote lucky, "I have lost a lot of money over the years and never had much to show for it"

Yet he says he gets "tons" of 4oak's? Hard to quantify "tons" in video poker. Losses I understand, going for some crazy shit once in a while I understand. Doing crazy shit as a strategy leads to "I have lost a lot of money over the years and never had much to show for it".

[Alan Mendelson]

These guys want to "gamble" and get lucky. I want to consistently profit! That won't happen "gambling."

Would you like to sell advertising for me? You will consistently profit.

[lucky]

Ahh the math gurus are all tying themselves into knots trying to explain, in the long run u will get more flushes by holding 4 to a flush vs a pair, while ignoring that u will end up with losing more full houses by holding three aces in a dealt full house or holding two aces instead of two pair.......talk about hypocrites

[james40]

Ahh the math gurus are all tying themselves into knots trying to explain, in the long run u will get more flushes by holding 4 to a flush vs a pair, while ignoring that u will end up with losing more full houses by holding three aces in a dealt full house or holding two aces instead of two pair.......talk about hypocrites

Nothing to explain lucky, you explained it best: "I have lost a lot of money over the years and never had much to show for it".

[RS__]

The value (in some games) for AAA is greater than the value for a FH. What's hypocritical about that?

[Alan Mendelson]

The value (in some games) for AAA is greater than the value for a FH. What's hypocritical about that?

Well said.

[lucky]

And the value of regular 4of a kind from 2 pair is greater than a flush draw in ALL games.......

[lucky]

Look what I found....posted by Dan Druff in January 2014 in the thread free play trip by Alan....sounds a lot like he is proving my point was in regards to a small pair
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"Huge mistake to hold an ace instead of a low pair.

An ace is one of the worst "keep" hands at 8/5 bonus. A low pair is one of the better "keep" hands -- even better than a hand like 5678x!

The main reason for this is the fact that a low pair can hit quads at a reasonable frequency, and will get two pair and trips fairly often. A lone ace can do very little other than break even.

You get quads about once every 423 hands on average at 8/5 bonus. It's important not to rob yourself the chance to get these, as quads often make or break your session.

The fact that you're running freeplay should have nothing to do with your strategy"

[Alan Mendelson]

No Lucky, what Dan wrote has nothing to do with your position.

Yes, you hold a small pair rather than a single high card. But you are trying to tell us that it's better to hold a small pair instead of a four-flush draw and that's just not correct.

[lucky]

[/U]".A low pair is one of the better "keep" hands -- even better than a hand like 5678x!

The main reason for this is the fact that a low pair can hit quads at a reasonable frequency, and will get two pair and trips fairly often.

You get quads about once every 423 hands on average at 8/5 bonus.It's important not to rob yourself the chance to get these, as quads often make or break your session." Dan druff's edited version


Let's see, Dan says small pair gives u 4of a kind frequently (as did I)

Dan says quads makes or breaks a session( as did I).....sounds a lot like an endorsement of my play