A friend of mine reports that he was just in Vegas and they have implemented a system at VP bars at caesars whereby there are red and green lights that track your play. Only when the light turns green can a bartender give you a free drink.
He thought he saw that at Cosmo or Aria also. He didn't know the requirements to earn the drink.
Anyone know anything about this?
Parking, resort fees, bad pay tables, over priced buffets and food. Now you can't drink!!
It ain't vegas anymore. Sad.
It says something about the sad state of Las Vegas' visitors these days. Forty years ago, casinos gave away free drinks to make people stupid while gambling. Today, LV visitors are plenty stupid without any help, so no need for free liquor. May as well charge them for it.
This ties in with Dan's thread about the stupidity of the average LV visitor these days.
It is amazing that they really have no interest in "gamblers" anymore. It is just for tourists now. The real gamblers are old or dead.
Bring back the mob!!
It's those damn millennials. If you've ever seen the crush of people waiting to get into the nightclubs on the strip, you see why gamblers are now second class citizens.Originally Posted by regnis
Look up the cost of bottle service at one of the clubs. Couple that with entrance fees, booze, food etc. and you can see the markup is well above some grinder that wants to spend 8 hours running a few hundred through a 7/5 BP poker machine and then demand a buffett and a free room, all the while swilling free booze. Then whines about how bad the comps are these days.
The club crowd gets in, tips well, spends a shit-load of money on entry fees and alcohol and gets out - the perfect customer.
We had just getten out of a show at Caesars coliseum when we ran into the crowd waiting to get into the OMNIA. It was a crush of well dressed club gowers, ready to spend money on a party. Then I looked back at the sad sack gamblers in the casino trying to squeeze one more free drink out of the few servers working the floor. Who do you think the casino would rather have come through the doors.
Not exactly a secret...Originally Posted by regnis
From July 2016
http://www.ktnv.com/news/strip-casin...-comped-drinks
From January 2016
http://vitalvegas.com/caesars-palace...orts-book-bar/
I hope you don't need a green light for anything in the diamond lounge!!!
On my last trip to Vegas I was in the elevator in the Augustus Tower at Caesars and two young guys, probably in their mid 30s, were discussing how they LOST $50,000 to $55,000 each that day.
Folks... you wonder why the casinos are cutting back on free drinks, robes in the rooms, slippers, body wash, chocolate coins? Because there are guys in their mid 30s dropping $50K to $55K each in a single day and the rest of us are trying to figure out the best way to make 7 Stars on full pay video poker.
Yes, the red light/green light thing started earlier this year. It's obnoxious, but finally puts a stop to "video poker slowplaying" -- a widely utilized trick where people would sit at VP machines, barely play, and order tons of free drinks.
Even more obnoxious is the bar policy at the Golden Nugget. I went there last summer with a friend. Not only do they require a "$20 minimum deposit" to their VP and "active play" (to be judged by the bartender), but you are not allowed to give your free drink to someone else! What?! So if you don't drink but your companion does, you can't give it to them! This is absurd, as you should be able to do whatever you want with the drink if you earned it.
The bartender told me that the bar employees are furious with these policies, as their tips have gone WAY down, especially when they have been forced to police people's drinks and/or refuse comped booze. The bartenders are seen as the bad guys, and many times are not tipped. In reality, the bartenders are being watched by the eye in the sky, and will get fired if they don't play enforcer.
At least the red light/green light thing is a machine which enforces itself.
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I don't drink and I've never played video poker at a bar... but I always thought you paid for drinks at casino bars? I never knew there was ever a free drink policy at bars. I also thought you paid for drinks at bars because of bartenders and the options for specific brands.
So I just learned something.
If all casinos charged for drinks at bars, whether you played or not, it would make sense to me.
And since MGM started charging for parking nothing surprises me. Someday I'm expecting to see a "casino cover charge" or admission ticket.
Alan-when casinos were finally legalized in Illinois over 20 years ago, they were only licensed in god forsaken places at least an hour drive from Chicago. So you had to waste an hour of time, and the cost of gas, just to get to the casino. Then there was an admission charge!! It was several years later that another casino opened and didn't charge admission and then they all eliminated it. Of course, they were all river boats at that time and actually left the dock for an hour and then returned to re-load. If there was traffic and you drove all that way and missed the boat, you now had to sit there an hour and a half until the next cruise.
That wasn't the choice of the casinos. That was our great politicians' decision.
[QUOTE=Dan Druff;43161]Yes, the red light/green light thing started earlier this year. It's obnoxious, but finally puts a stop to "video poker slowplaying" -- a widely utilized trick where people would sit at VP machines, barely play, and order tons of free drinks.
I'm afraid my wife might install the red and green lights on her back.
Coach-- that bar at the sports book in Caesars is where I usually sit to relax for an hour and watch a game and play a few horses. I have never had any problem getting a drink there, whether I play VP or just sit there. But I haven't been there since January. Maybe this was done after January.Originally Posted by coach belly
You can't even get a free coke without it being 98% ice and in a glass that holds less than a tablespoon.
Since the advent of video poker, drinks were free at bars as long as you were playing. The polite amount to put in the machines was generally considered $20. Lower end places had people getting away with initially putting less in the machines and slow playing a quarter at a time.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I believe Wynn was the first to stop the comped drinks some years back.
Which any bar or restaurant operator knows is completely wrong. The ice costs more than the soda.Originally Posted by jbjb
I only get to Vegas once a year, and always seem to end up at that bar a few times during the trip.Originally Posted by regnis
I'm thinking this policy does not apply to Diamond or 7stars players. I suspect we'll all know soon enough.
Actually, the real cost of serving drinks is the cost of washing the glass including the labor for washing, drying, serving the glass and having the actual glass.Originally Posted by regnis
Anyone who buys a half liter of soda for 79-cents in a supermarket can appreciate the true cost of fountain drinks, which is why fast food restaurants allow free refills after you've paid your $1.29 or $1.79 or $2.29 or whatever they charge.
Most bars have machines that clean them right there.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
We get 2 litres of RC for 99¢
Of course bars have machines that clean their glasses. You don't think they ship them to China to be cleaned, do you?Originally Posted by jbjb
They'd come back from there with lead in them.
You made it sound like these places use bus boys or something.
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