Overcomped

[Dan Druff]

I'm so overcomped that I have zero Vegas offers of any kind. Not one.

Even Rincon has slammed the door on me, since I did a no-play stay last time and used their freeplay.

My friend who used the "on-off" trick is still getting $200-$300ish offers. They did get a NYE offer for $225 freeplay, but it doesn't include Caesars Palace. This person is only a Diamond.

Of course, being a Seven Stars, I could get a room at New Years, but I will be skipping Vegas for New Years this time around, as I will have just been there right beforehand.

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan you still don't get it. You're not overcomped anymore. You're now considered a PITA and they don't want you.

[jbjb]

Dan you still don't get it. You're not overcomped anymore. You're now considered a PITA and they don't want you.

Basically he's being what we call getting "no mailed."

[james40]

Basically he's being what we call getting "no mailed."

Or possibly he is over estimating his importance to Caesars.

[redietz]

I'm sure Dan's heart broken.

Now he'll just have to sign up his girlfriend and do the same things with her card.

Oh, the humanity....

[james40]

I'm sure Dan's heart broken.

Now he'll just have to sign up his girlfriend and do the same things with her card.

Oh, the humanity....

This is why I stick with a small amount of recreational play and don't try to make it any more than than that. I get a few comps along the way and I'm happy with what I get. I get calls from hosts periodically, I'm guessing they have a schedule for checking in on card holders. I've never asked them for anything, as any special requests I've had (additional rooms etc.) I've handled through the 1-800 numbers. I've always found Caesars accommodating for the few requests I've had. I do my dinner reservations through opentable or the hotel. Same with shows, either at the ticket booth or Total Rewards desk if it's for comp tickets.

I don't particularly want a closer association with Caesars.

[james40]

Dan you still don't get it. You're not overcomped anymore. You're now considered a PITA and they don't want you.

I've gotten no offers for NYE either. I must be overcomped also. I visited Caesars once this year.

[Rob.Singer]

Yup, every legend in their own mind is overcomped.

Has anyone even thought about spending NYE at any place other than a casino?

[Dan Druff]

Dan you still don't get it. You're not overcomped anymore. You're now considered a PITA and they don't want you.

Yes I am overcomped.

I don't know why you refuse to accept an established term in the casino industry, and realize it applies to me.

I still get all of the standard Seven Stars benefits, which more than pay for the -EV of the games I pay to get there.

[blackhole]

Yup, every legend in their own mind is overcomped.

Has anyone even thought about spending NYE at any place other than a casino?

Back in the day when I was considered a preferred patron in three A.C. casinos, my offers for New Years were always considered top shelve.

Not being a professional winning A.P. gambler I had to place my faith on luck to leave a winner. The odds obvious were not in my favor, so I always refused all New Year offers.

I never wanted to bring in any New Year on a negative note. I turned down every offer for over 30 years. I always felt losing money on the last day of a year and on the first day of a new year might be a bad omen.

To get those top shelve offers means you are a wanted income for the casinos. Even if you had a great winning year, the casinos share a crystal ball and know the future with 99.0% accuracy. That missing 1% is of course for you professional winning A.P. pros.

[Alan Mendelson]

Yes I am overcomped.

I don't know why you refuse to accept an established term in the casino industry, and realize it applies to me.

I still get all of the standard Seven Stars benefits, which more than pay for the -EV of the games I pay to get there.

Dan did you just fall off a turnip truck?

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan... SAY NO MORE... YOU are overcomped. You were told you were overcomped and you believe you are overcomped. Okay. You are overcomped.

But the bottom line is... you're not getting the offers. If you want to say it's because you are overcomped, well, that's just fine.

A stinkweed by any other name would stink as bad.

[blackhole]

Dan did you just fall off a turnip truck?

Turnip
Root vegetable

The turnip or white turnip is a root vegetable commonly grown in temperate climates worldwide for its white, bulbous taproot. Small, tender varieties are grown for human consumption, while larger varieties are grown as feed for livestock.


Alan, please explain to me what falling off a Turnip truck implies? Is there some type of metaphor I’m not aware of?

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan, please explain to me what falling off a Turnip truck implies?

You didn't want to Google it?

[blackhole]

You didn't want to Google it?

Good ole goggle, your right it was there. I'll use old for my excuse for not running to google first.

If someone has just fallen off the turnip truck, they are uninformed, naive and gullible. (Often used in the negative)

[quahaug]

I was born at night, but not last night.

[redietz]

Actually, there was a real rural denigration connoted by that phrase. If you "fell off the turnip truck," it meant you were a rural bumpkin bringing crops to market and were unfamiliar with city life. Turnips were in-the-ground vegetables, so growing and harvesting them was considered lower than, say, growing corn or tomatoes. So, if you fell off the turnip truck, you were not only a rural bumpkin, you were the lowest of the rural bumpkins. And many rural folks were unschooled.

It was actually a class slur.

[Rob.Singer]

Yes I am overcomped.

I don't know why you refuse to accept an established term in the casino industry, and realize it applies to me.

I still get all of the standard Seven Stars benefits, which more than pay for the -EV of the games I pay to get there.

If there truly were such a term that's standard within the industry, it would be easy to produce one piece of written evidence from CET that uses it for your denial of whatever benefits you're being blocked from.

And of course, you and all the other 7-Stars no doubt whatsoever have been given enough "freebies" so that you folks can proclaim winning years. After all, CET isn't in the business of making money, and they didn't create the 7-Stars level for anything other than to have a level for all their "winners".....

[Alan Mendelson]

It doesn't matter if you are overcomped or undercomped. What's important is... are you getting the offers you want?

[Dan Druff]

Dan... SAY NO MORE... YOU are overcomped. You were told you were overcomped and you believe you are overcomped. Okay. You are overcomped.

But the bottom line is... you're not getting the offers. If you want to say it's because you are overcomped, well, that's just fine.

A stinkweed by any other name would stink as bad.

I'm getting no offers BECAUSE I'm overcomped.

Overcomped = used more comps than one was entitled to

Used more comps than one was entitled to = No more comps for the future

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

And now Rob is asking me for written proof that I'm overcomped.

This is just comical.

Sadly this is just rationalization by non-AP players that they must be the ones doing it right if their comps are better. Never mind that the number of comps I redeem per dollar lost is FAR greater than theirs. That's not important, right?