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    Rob Singer in another thread criticized this forum for a lack of topics and a lack of active members.

    Gee, how many new and different things are there about casinos and gaming?

    And most of us do have lives outside of casinos which means casinos and gaming are not at the top of our interest lists or what we do for a living.

    I think Rob and Dan and jbjb are the only full timers here so I will ask them: is there really something new to discuss on a daily basis without getting into the minutiae of what drink you ordered each day you played?

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    I remember many moons ago Rob talking about a foolproof winner. It's the safe wallet- you slip your winnings into a slit in the wallet and you can't open it until you get home and retrieve the key. Other than that, I don't know?

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    I started a thread in the Investment part of this forum last night in regard to whats in store for the economy next year. So far I have had 21 views and no responses. To me that subject is far more important than some of the other topics discussed here. The investment part of this forum has had zero activity since July so I was trying to do my part to contribute. And what gives you the right Alan to determine who is active and who is not active on this forum. Many of us try to contribute but are largely ignored for whatever reason. That may be why I have seen people whose opinion I value such as Nerakil, Carolina Jacket, and others including myself not post and contribute as much as they otherwise would. You asked and even though you do not consider me a full time member I am giving you an honest answer for what it is worth.

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    Here's something new. Tomorrow I'm taking my wife to GVR for 3 nights to celebrate our belated 38th anniversary since we've been having a steady flow of company since Oct. She's never been there until I stopped by to show her on our way back from Tahoe about 3 months ago.

    GVR is by far the classiest property off-Strip---and since I'm very familiar with basically every major casino/hotel in the LV area, I can say it is actually overall better than most of the big guys on the Strip. And if you ask how it compares to CET or MGM, there IS no comparison. The lobby and associated hallways are far classier, the rooms are waaaay better, cleaner, comfortable, and fully stocked with amenities, the pool/cabana/spa areas are superior, and it's in a much nicer part of town.

    The restaurants? Not even close. And I mean NOT EVEN CLOSE. The casino vp? You can easily find 8/5 25c & $1 BP progressives all over, 9/7/5 DB progressives, etc. among other favorites. The absolute best part? Few if any foreigners clogging up the place. Limited Chinese running around slurping noodles. And nearly every bar has premium pours--many of them comped if there's vp machines being played. None of that silly "pay-to-park" stuff or host offices on the casino floor, so losing players can go in crying to their "good friend at their home-away-from-home" about wanting more comps than they've earned. Plus they have a movie theater, which we plan on going to twice.

    GVR is a class act. Now get this, and don't go into Seven Stars shock: I haven't played at GVR in at least 6 years, so I'm PAYING for our room & food. Some or all of it may get comped upon checkout--not sure what their system is these days or how the comps work. But either way, we're going for R&R so it doesn't really matter.

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    Happy Belated Anniversary.

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    I think Rob has toned down the obnoxiousness and narcissism too much.

    We need a more offensive Rob in order to keep these forums moving.
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    Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
    And what gives you the right Alan to determine who is active and who is not active on this forum.
    When I referred to Rob, Dan and jbjb I was referring to full time gamblers. I was not referring to active members.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Rob Singer in another thread criticized this forum for a lack of topics and a lack of active members.

    Gee, how many new and different things are there about casinos and gaming?

    And most of us do have lives outside of casinos which means casinos and gaming are not at the top of our interest lists or what we do for a living.

    I think Rob and Dan and jbjb are the only full timers here so I will ask them: is there really something new to discuss on a daily basis without getting into the minutiae of what drink you ordered each day you played?
    It's a boring site. Any question asked quickly devolves into a couple of old, crotchety guys getting into 5 pages of silly debates. The deuces wild question is an example, an interesting question that quickly went south when bobo the clown showed up.

    You were smart to dump this website.

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    Even mickeycrimm--a loner/loser with no life whatsoever who likes making up gambling stories from years past because it was before his degeneration into the only place he could live on Obama freebies without much attention--can't find his way here. But I do think about him often, esp. this morning while I'm counting out a nice $7700 profit from yet another $2 royal I hit here at GVR late last evening. Just imagine how many drinks that would buy poor mickey!

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I haven't played at GVR in at least 6 years, so I'm PAYING for our room & food. Some or all of it may get comped upon checkout--not sure what their system is these days or how the comps work. But either way, we're going for R&R so it doesn't really matter.
    Kudos to you Rob. For occasional gamblers, paying the freight will save them money.

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    Rob, I don't drink when I'm working (gambling).

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Even mickeycrimm--a loner/loser with no life whatsoever who likes making up gambling stories from years past because it was before his degeneration into the only place he could live on Obama freebies without much attention--can't find his way here. But I do think about him often, esp. this morning while I'm counting out a nice $7700 profit from yet another $2 royal I hit here at GVR late last evening. Just imagine how many drinks that would buy poor mickey!
    Rob, I keep hearing about these "Obama freebies," but I can't seem to wrangle any. Do you have any insights on how one might get his hands on some before the billionaire boys' club takes over?

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    Originally Posted by james40 View Post
    It's a boring site. Any question asked quickly devolves into a couple of old, crotchety guys getting into 5 pages of silly debates. The deuces wild question is an example, an interesting question that quickly went south when bobo the clown showed up.

    You were smart to dump this website.
    I haven't opened this forum in a long, long time... not for the "boring" factor but the "bobo the clown showed up" factor... and yes, I did read that particular thread because I've started playing DW after years of avoiding learning it. (No real reason for this, but I needed to pick up a new regular game, I guess.)

    Anyway, that DW thread went from an interesting topic right into the port-a-john as soon as Bobo chimed in and then he tipped it over with his customary attacks. THAT is why traffic is down. The troll is winning and the site is losing.

    Actually, the main reason I opened up the forum was to see if there was any discussion (and couldn't find any) that the IRS has now abandoned their idea of lowering the jackpot-reporting threshold to $600. So, in a roundabout way, I guess I may have just provided a relatively fresh topic.

    Drinks are on me.

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    Vic,

    Are you up to speed on the reporting changes for horse racing? I'm not a horse player, but I've heard that the reportage and withholding are going to change (for the better). I haven't gotten any details. Perhaps regnis is in the know.

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    Not into horses at all except watching John Wayne and Lone Ranger DVDs.

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Vic,

    Are you up to speed on the reporting changes for horse racing? I'm not a horse player, but I've heard that the reportage and withholding are going to change (for the better). I haven't gotten any details. Perhaps regnis is in the know.
    Of course--us horse players are all over this. I had advocated a much different approach than we wound up with, but it is still a significant improvement.

    To over simplify, we used to have to sign (they did not withhold) on a $2.oo bet paying over $602. In other words---300 to 1. Where this became a problem was in pick 6's and superfectas and similar wagers, in that we might invest several thousand into the pick 6, so that the wager wasn't just $2.00. If you wager $10,000 (which is 5,000 $2.00 wagers) into a pick 6 and it pays $25,000, that is far from 300 to 1, yet you would be taxed as if the bet were $2.00.

    Now, they will look at the entire amount wagered and not treat it as just a $2.00 bet. So you will be taxed if the win exceeds 300 x the total wager. The one caveat is that they will only count the wagers on that winning ticket. So if you play numerous tickets, which most pick 6 players do, only the total bet on the winning ticket is included.

    This is a benefit to the big players and not so much for the smaller players, but at least it's something. We have been pushing for this change, in some form or the other, for years. Now if we can get states like Illinois to address the fact that you are taxed on the gross win, we would really achieve something. Although the change in the federal law will reduce the number of signers and thus reduce the gross in Illinois and similar states.

    The change has not been implemented and is on a 90 day period for comment. With a new administration coming in, who knows if it will actually be implemented.
    Of course, by law, all winnings are supposed to be declared, so it is almost like the IRS recognizing that only signers get reported. Keep fingers crossed.

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    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Of course--us horse players are all over this. I had advocated a much different approach than we wound up with, but it is still a significant improvement.

    To over simplify, we used to have to sign (they did not withhold) on a $2.oo bet paying over $602. In other words---300 to 1. Where this became a problem was in pick 6's and superfectas and similar wagers, in that we might invest several thousand into the pick 6, so that the wager wasn't just $2.00. If you wager $10,000 (which is 5,000 $2.00 wagers) into a pick 6 and it pays $25,000, that is far from 300 to 1, yet you would be taxed as if the bet were $2.00.

    Now, they will look at the entire amount wagered and not treat it as just a $2.00 bet. So you will be taxed if the win exceeds 300 x the total wager. The one caveat is that they will only count the wagers on that winning ticket. So if you play numerous tickets, which most pick 6 players do, only the total bet on the winning ticket is included.

    This is a benefit to the big players and not so much for the smaller players, but at least it's something. We have been pushing for this change, in some form or the other, for years. Now if we can get states like Illinois to address the fact that you are taxed on the gross win, we would really achieve something. Although the change in the federal law will reduce the number of signers and thus reduce the gross in Illinois and similar states.

    The change has not been implemented and is on a 90 day period for comment. With a new administration coming in, who knows if it will actually be implemented.
    Of course, by law, all winnings are supposed to be declared, so it is almost like the IRS recognizing that only signers get reported. Keep fingers crossed.
    I love reading about horse player AP’ers. {Quote} “we invest several thousand into the pick 6 and it pays $25,000.00” This shit just never ends with you smart guys always trying to prove how smart you are and the resources available to your gifted select groups, and how stupid the rest of us must be that aren’t doing the same.

    I personally owned 3 thoroughbreds and was partners on 2 others that all ran the NY and Florida circuit. It’s one of the nastiest cut throat industries on planet earth. Everyone beneath the rich and famous owners winning million dollar purses, most of the rest are all sweating bullets, maneuvering, cheating, starting phony rumors, and would be thrilled if the fn horses just paid their own way. This was back in the day when it was only $75.00 dollars a day, per horse, excluding endless additional fees like vet, jockey, silks, shipping, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. God forbid you need rehabilitation. When you do come in the money, everyone is on line for their cut of the purse. 10% trainer, 10% jockey, then everyone else involved at the stables looking for something.

    Yet, you AP’s figured a way to beat all this at the windows, and your only concern is cutting the IRS fees from your winnings. Do yourself a favor and save your money instead of wasting it on racing forums. Trainers and owners are never sure they could win, and if the rare occasion arises that we are sure, you’ll never know about it.

    This is why these gambling forums have few members and are usually filled with the same type groups of AP specialists blowing smoke up each other asses. These sites are filled with self-proclaimed AP’s all trying to outdo other self-proclaimed AP’s. Then the AP challenges of proof come with another 10 pages of nothing, followed up with another 10 pages of dirt on family members, (wives, mothers, children, etc.)

    For most of us, especially gambling veterans, these sites are entertainment venues to read when looking for a laugh. Every once in a while, you catch an interesting serious topic, but for the most part most visit for a laugh.

    The WOO had a little gimmick with all the actual mathematical stats on all the casino games showing everyone how they’ll eventually lose. We know Mike and one or two other sites got lucky with offshore gambling interests looking for US customers. But all other sites like this one are pretty much just a home for self-proclaimed bullshit artists.
    Last edited by blackhole; 01-05-2017 at 04:36 AM.

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    Blackhole, would you answer this question. Is ignorance bliss?

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Blackhole, would you answer this question. Is ignorance bliss?
    That comment has real impact, coming from a self-proclaimed AP who happens to have a drinking problem. Before I answer that question first tell me if your sober or blown out of your shoes?

  20. #20
    I think blackhole is jealous because he can't figure out how to sustainably win at gambling (AP). Instead of being an asshole, you could probably learn a thing or two if you read more and ranted less.

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