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Thread: A question for VP APers?

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    I'm wondering.

    Since because you always play at an advantage or not all (from what I've read), do you ever get so bored knowing you are at an advantage that you just simply say, when playing a certain hand with potential that exceeds that of optimal play, "to heck with the math, I'll play straight on the other 99.99% of hands I play", and go for the long shot? Ever?

    And as far as the team approach for progressives, if you knew a team member was taking long shots (that is not playing optimally all the time), yet still producing expected results, would they be fired or reprimanded?

    Thanks in advance.

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    I am not an "advantage player" because I don't follow all of the rules of "advantage play." For example, I play 8/5 bonus and 8/5 aces and face which while "full pay games" are not 100% payback games.

    But I would think that a true advantage player, in order to be an advantage player, would try to stick with 100% strategy and advantage play 100% of the time... or else they would have to "resign from the advantage play club."

    I think the exception would be when they've determined that a progressive jackpot is so large that violating the "perfect strategy rules" become appropriate for a better chance to get the jackpot.

    Im also curious about the answer to your question about team play, because I am going to guess that team members are supposed to play a certain "team strategy." I wonder if that team strategy differs when the progressive jackpots exceed a particular return?

    I look forward to reading the answers from the APers.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I am not an "advantage player" because I don't follow all of the rules of "advantage play." For example, I play 8/5 bonus and 8/5 aces and face which while "full pay games" are not 100% payback games.

    But I would think that a true advantage player, in order to be an advantage player, would try to stick with 100% strategy and advantage play 100% of the time... or else they would have to "resign from the advantage play club."

    I think the exception would be when they've determined that a progressive jackpot is so large that violating the "perfect strategy rules" become appropriate for a better chance to get the jackpot.

    Im also curious about the answer to your question about team play, because I am going to guess that team members are supposed to play a certain "team strategy." I wonder if that team strategy differs when the progressive jackpots exceed a particular return?

    I look forward to reading the answers from the APers.
    Having been a strict AP for over 6 years, yes, a true AP only aims to play math-correct strategy 100% of the time--and that includes playing for progressives because the strategy changes incorporated to try and hit the larger royal are actually math-correct as the target moves.

    That said, NO ONE can really play math-correct strategy as they are not programmed robots. The casinos know this, and that is why so many very lucrative promotions continue to pop up all over Nevada. These promos are especially targeted towards known AP writers such as Bob Dancer, who never saw a theoretically >100% promo he didn't crave to play. The more AP's a casino can get in to play these things, the higher their profit margin for the duration. It is a very simple formula.

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