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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by bocce ball View Post
    I don't think that was the implication. Australian conditions have been publicized by author Peter Liston, and possibly others.
    When I read Liston's book I was pretty jealous. The bigger the meter rate the more lucrative the game is. Liston was playing with 5% and 6% meter rates in Australia. We never saw anything like that in the U.S. The meter rates here were in the 1% to 2% range when the game was new, and those rates have fallen way off to a half percent and less.

    Liston was recently interviewed again on GWAE. He had gone to Oklahoma, I think to Winstar, where he said he found 60 Mystery Progressives....but he never said anything about the meter rates on those machines. I was thinking to myself that if I went down there I probably wouldn't find a meter that ran faster than half a percent.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 02-27-2017 at 12:30 AM.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I recognized the Piggy Bankin' machines for what they were, a golden opportunity for me. It was a steady source of income. On my third day in Laughlin I checked into the Harrah's hotel. I didn't know it then but my homeless career was over for good. I transitioned from homeless drifter to full time gambler literally over night. There was nothing in between.

    I discovered the linked banks of Flush Attack in Laughlin. I had read a Lenny Frome article about them in Card Player Magazine. The machines were linked together so that when the accumulation of three flushes were made it triggered Flush Attack mode and the next player to make a flush got paid 125 coins. I had been studying combinatorial math as it concerns a deck of cards for about 4 years. So I was able to calculate the strategy for the game. I then had two gigs in Laughlin, the Pigs and Flush Attack. The trick to the linked banks of Flush Attack was don't play when the game is not in Flush Attack mode. In mode you are at 135%. Non-mode you are at 94%. But not playing during non-mode made me stick out like a sore thumb. So I played one coin slowly between the lights. Then went to five coins in the light. There were two Flush Attack banks in Gold River, one bank in the Ramada, one in the Pioneer, one in the Flamingo, and two in the Riverside.

    My dive into working comps started with getting a meal comp here and there. I was paying my own rent. The rent was cheap enough as it was, the Riverside was $16 per night midweek and Gold River was $20 per night midweek. The weekends cost me anywhere from $40 to $50 per night.
    Between the Pigs and Flush Attack a month later I had about a $5000 bankroll. No more day labor for my ass! It was around Christmas time I decided to take a trip up to Las Vegas. I wanted to check out the Pigs in LV and also go by Gambler's General Store to see what I could find in the way of video poker books. I found two books by Dan Paymar, Precision Play and The Best of Video Poker Times. I also bought Paymar's strategy cards. The Best of Video Poker Times was a collection of Paymar's best arcticles in his monthly newsletter. It turned out to be a gold mine but I'll talk about that later.

    The Pigs in Las Vegas were all dollar machines. The casinos up and down the Strip all had them. And the Horseshoe and Nugget downtown had them. But there was much more competition for the plays there than in Laughlin. People were taking some pretty low numbers. One day I walked into Circus Circus-they had 11 Pig machines-and all the machines were shut down. I asked the attendent what was going on. She didn't know. I jumped on the bus to downtown. When I got in the Horseshoe the Pig machines were shut down there too. Damn. I went over to the Nugget and they were shut down there too. Then I got real worried. Something was going on. They were messing with my cash cow.

    I looked down on a Pig machine to find the manufacturer, Williams Gaming, Chicago, Illinois. I went to a phone book to see if they had a Las Vegas office. Sure enough they did.

    "Williams Gaming, may I help you?" The voice on the other end said.
    "Yes, Ma'am. I'm a big fan of your Piggy Bankin' machines but they seem to be shut down in every casino I stop in."
    'IGT is suing us over the telnaes patent. They have a court order to have the machines removed but we are scrambling for an injunction" she said.

    By the time they got the injunction 90% of the Pigs had disappeared out of Las Vegas. Bummer! So then I had to rethink and regroup. I figured I'd go on back down to Laughlin to play Flush Attack....and since I had Paymar's stategy card for Full Pay Deuces Wild (100.76%) I would start playing it too. When I got back down to Laughlin I was surprised-and happy-to find that the Pigs had survived the court order to be removed. What a relief. So I went back to playing the Pigs and Flush Attack....and teaching myself the strategy for FPDW.

    The Golden Nugget had a bank of FPDW, the card was worth .2% and one day a month you got 2X points, and they also had comp but I can't remember the meter rate. The Gold River was much better. They had a bank of FPDW, the card was worth .333% cashback and .333% comp, and on Thursdays you got 3X cashback. I started playing FPDW at Gold River on Thursday nights because with the cashback the game was at 101.76%. I started getting more in the way of food comp because of the FPDW.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 02-27-2017 at 07:29 AM.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Liston was recently interviewed again on GWAE. He had gone to Oklahoma, I think to Winstar, where he said he found 60 Mystery Progressives....but he never said anything about the meter rates on those machines. I was thinking to myself that if I went down there I probably wouldn't find a meter that ran faster than half a percent.
    I've never been to Winstar, but generally, many of the standalone machines have a dual jackpot configuration, with a minor progressive ranging from $25-50, plus a $250-500 major. The fastest rate I've found for a minor was about 2.5% (40 cents coin-in adds 1 cent to the meter), but usually it moves at less than 1%. Majors tend to move more slowly than minors. I've never seen a major faster than 1%.

    There are many variations, including linked (sometimes casino-wide) mystery progressives. Liston seems to suggest his techniques can be profitable in almost any casino region.

    Mickey, have you looked at Liston's Poker ("pokie") Machine School website? He's clearly a knowledgeable guy, but his site vibrated my bs detector into a collision with my Rene Descartes bobblehead doll. Liston claims his system returns over $500 per hour on average. For a cost of $7,900, he will visit you for a three-day session of personalized training and casino demonstration.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by bocce ball View Post
    Mickey, have you looked at Liston's Poker ("pokie") Machine School website? He's clearly a knowledgeable guy, but his site vibrated my bs detector into a collision with my Rene Descartes bobblehead doll. Liston claims his system returns over $500 per hour on average. For a cost of $7,900, he will visit you for a three-day session of personalized training and casino demonstration.
    The course is definitely not worth it for U.S. players. It would take you forever to get your money back on the machines. I don't know of anyone in the U.S. that is able to make a living strictly off of Mystery Progressives. It's just one of many vulture plays. A Mystery Progressive play here and there can add to ones bottom line but not that much. Another problem for those who would just be coming into the game is those machines are already being watched for plays by current AP's.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Between the Pigs and Flush Attack a month later I had about a $5000 bankroll. No more day labor for my ass! It was around Christmas time I decided to take a trip up to Las Vegas. I wanted to check out the Pigs in LV and also go by Gambler's General Store to see what I could find in the way of video poker books. I found two books by Dan Paymar, Precision Play and The Best of Video Poker Times. I also bought Paymar's strategy cards. The Best of Video Poker Times was a collection of Paymar's best arcticles in his monthly newsletter. It turned out to be a gold mine but I'll talk about that later.

    The Pigs in Las Vegas were all dollar machines. The casinos up and down the Strip all had them. And the Horseshoe and Nugget downtown had them. But there was much more competition for the plays there than in Laughlin. People were taking some pretty low numbers. One day I walked into Circus Circus-they had 11 Pig machines-and all the machines were shut down. I asked the attendent what was going on. She didn't know. I jumped on the bus to downtown. When I got in the Horseshoe the Pig machines were shut down there too. Damn. I went over to the Nugget and they were shut down there too. Then I got real worried. Something was going on. They were messing with my cash cow.

    I looked down on a Pig machine to find the manufacturer, Williams Gaming, Chicago, Illinois. I went to a phone book to see if they had a Las Vegas office. Sure enough they did.

    "Williams Gaming, may I help you?" The voice on the other end said.
    "Yes, Ma'am. I'm a big fan of your Piggy Bankin' machines but they seem to be shut down in every casino I stop in."
    'IGT is suing us over the telnaes patent. They have a court order to have the machines removed but we are scrambling for an injunction" she said.

    By the time they got the injunction 90% of the Pigs had disappeared out of Las Vegas. Bummer! So then I had to rethink and regroup. I figured I'd go on back down to Laughlin to play Flush Attack....and since I had Paymar's stategy card for Full Pay Deuces Wild (100.76%) I would start playing it too. When I got back down to Laughlin I was surprised-and happy-to find that the Pigs had survived the court order to be removed. What a relief. So I went back to playing the Pigs and Flush Attack....and teaching myself the strategy for FPDW.

    The Golden Nugget had a bank of FPDW, the card was worth .2% and one day a month you got 2X points, and they also had comp but I can't remember the meter rate. The Gold River was much better. They had a bank of FPDW, the card was worth .333% cashback and .333% comp, and on Thursdays you got 3X cashback. I started playing FPDW at Gold River on Thursday nights because with the cashback the game was at 101.76%. I started getting more in the way of food comp because of the FPDW.
    It was sometime in very early 1997 that Silicon Gaming's Odyssey machines appeared in Laughlin and the rest of the state. And this enabled me to immediately add two more vulture plays to my reportoire. The first was called Fort Knox. You can see it in the screenshot below. You can see the circle around the combination to unlock the safe. There were ten digits in the combination. You would average popping one of the digits in about every ten spins. When you popped in all ten digits you got a bonus that averaged around 100 coins. The trick to the game was let the ploppies pop in at least five digits then quit the game. Then you come in behind and finish the play to get the bonus.

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  6. #26
    The second exploitable game on the Odyssey's was called Buccaneer Gold. In the screenshot you can see the dagger symbol on the third reel. When you caught that dagger on the line it would put one dagger in the log below. Catch 5 daggers and you were awarded a bonus. Here's a screenshot. When you found the game with 3 daggers already in the log it was a small advantage. If you found it with 4 daggers already in the log it was a big advantage.

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  7. #27
    Here's a couple of youtube videos of Buccaneer Gold. In the second video skip to the 5 minute mark.




  8. #28
    Then Williams came out with some more exploitable three reelers. This game here is called Shopping Spree. Thee are Shopping Spree symbols on all three reels. When that symbol landed on a line you collected 1 or 2 points depending on the number of coins you were betting. When you collected 50 point you were awarded 20 coins and five free games that payed double. The trick was to spin it off when you found at least 40 points already collected.

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  9. #29
    Another Williams game was called Safecracker. There was a five digit combination and a safe on the dotmation screen. Certain symbols on the line put coins in the bank. On the third reel was a SAFE DIAL symbol. When it landed on the line it locked in one of the digits on the dotmation screen. When you locked in all five digits you were awarded the coins in the bank with a multiplier. It was a no brainer to spin this play off when you found four digits already locked in.

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  10. #30
    The X-factor slot by Williams was a real money maker. The multiplier on the dotmation screen started at 2X. The main symbol was called "POWER POINT." When power points landed on the line in nonpaying combinations it saved power points on the dotmation screen. When you collected ten of them it increased the multiplier to 3X. Collect another ten power points and the multiplier went to 4X. The advantage started at 4X. And the bigger multiplier you found the bigger the advantage was.

    For example when you hit Power Point-single bar-single bar it would multiply the regular pay by whatever the multiplier was. And if you caught Power Point-Power Point-single bar it was a double multiplier. I spun the plays off when I found a multiplier of at least 4X.

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  11. #31
    The 18-machine linked Flush Attack bank at the Riverside was the premier Flush Attack bank in Laughlin. It got lots more action by the ploppies than any other bank in town. The bank attracted lots of pros because of it. The ploppies created the Flush Attack modes. It took 15 points worth of Flush to send all the machines into Flush Attack mode. A person betting five coins would put in 5 points when they made a Flush. A person betting 3 coins would put in 3 points when they made a Flush. A person betting one coin would put in 1 point when they made a Flush. So when 15 points of Flush were collectively accumulated on the bank of machines it triggered Flush Attack mode. Across the top of all the machines it would say "FLUSH ATTACK!!! Next flush pays bonus." Then it was a race to see who could make the next flush, which payed 125 coins.

    The trick to this game was not to play in non-flush attack mode. Let the ploppies play and create the Flush Attack modes. But you could draw heat doing that. So most of us who were exploiting the game would bet one coin per game in non-mode to look like we were players. Then go to to five coins in mode. It was a cash cow.

    I met Bill Hartman of the Riverside Flush Attack bank in the spring of 1997. He was an old casino hustler. He was a pretty nice guy for someone who had done 13 years in San Quentin for manslaughter. We became fast friends. Up until that time I had been paying about $180 a week to stay in the casino hotels. I belonged to all the slot clubs but I had a Colorado ID and a phony address in Colorado. Who knows what happened to any mail they sent to that address.

    Hartman did two things for me. First, he introduced me to his Riverside casino host. She would comp me into the North Tower for a week at a time. That is, as long as I gave her a $70 handshake every week. The casino hosts in the Riverside were on the take. Don Laughlin allowed them to take tips and it became a racket. So I would meet my casino host at the North Tower Bar every week with $70 palmed in my hand which I would pass off to her. This cut my rent bill considerably.

    The 2nd thing Hartman did was he told me to go downstairs and rent a mail box in the Post Office. The Riverside had a U.S. Post Office down the escalator where you go out to catch the water taxi. I asked him why I needed a mail box. He told me I was missing out on the casino mailers that came with comped rooms, meal comps, bounceback checks, promotions, etc. I went downstairs and rented a mail box for $14 a year. Then I went to all the slot clubs and changed my mailing address.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 03-04-2017 at 09:11 AM.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The 18-machine linked Flush Attack bank at the Riverside was the premier Flush Attack bank in Laughlin. It got lots more action by the ploppies than any other bank in town. The bank attracted lots of pros because of it. The ploppies created the Flush Attack modes. It took 15 points worth of Flush to send all the machines into Flush Attack mode. A person betting five coins would put in 5 points when they made a Flush. A person betting 3 coins would put in 3 points when they made a Flush. A person betting one coin would put in 1 point when they made a Flush. So when 15 points of Flush were collectively accumulated on the bank of machines it triggered Flush Attack mode. Across the top of all the machines it would say "FLUSH ATTACK!!! Next flush pays bonus." Then it was a race to see who could make the next flush, which payed 125 coins.

    The trick to this game was not to play in non-flush attack mode. Let the ploppies play and create the Flush Attack modes. But you could draw heat doing that. So most of us who were exploiting the game would bet one coin per game in non-mode to look like we were players. Then go to to five coins in mode. It was a cash cow.

    I met Bill Hartman of the Riverside Flush Attack bank in the spring of 1997. He was an old casino hustler. He was a pretty nice guy for someone who had done 13 years in San Quentin for manslaughter. We became fast friends. Up until that time I had been paying about $180 a week to stay in the casino hotels. I belonged to all the slot clubs but I had a Colorado ID and a phony address in Colorado. Who knows what happened to any mail they sent to that address.

    Hartman did two things for me. First, he introduced me to his Riverside casino host. She would comp me into the North Tower for a week at a time. That is, as long as I gave her a $70 handshake every week. The casino hosts in the Riverside were on the take. Don Laughlin allowed them to take tips and it became a racket. So I would meet my casino host at the North Tower Bar every week with $70 palmed in my hand which I would pass off to her. This cut my rent bill considerably.

    The 2nd thing Hartman did was he told me to go downstairs and rent a mail box in the Post Office. The Riverside had a U.S. Post Office down the escalator where you go out to catch the water taxi. I asked him why I needed a mail box. He told me I was missing out on the casino mailers that came with comped rooms, meal comps, bounceback checks, promotions, etc. I went downstairs and rented a mail box for $14 a year. Then I went to all the slot clubs and changed my mailing address.
    By early 1997 I had the Pig plays working, the Flush Attack banks around Laughlin working, the Odyssey plays working, and I was playing FPDW on certain nights. Then I added two more video poker games to my reportoire. The first was another Sigma game called House a' Rockin'. It worked the same way as Flush Attack but was based on Full Houses. There was a linked bank in the North Tower Bar of the Riverside. It was 8/5 Double Bonus with every 6th Full House paying 200 coins. When I caught the bank getting ploppie action I sat down betting one coin at a time in non-mode then went to the five coin bet in mode. It was another cash cow.

    The 2nd video poker game was called Jackpot Card. It was 6/5 Double Double Jackpot, a 95% game. But there was a bingo card on the upper right of the screen. Squares on the card would fill in as you hit hands, like two pair, 3 of a Kind, Straight, the four different flush suits, certain full houses. It basically left the 4 of a Kinds to hit. When you made a bingo on the card you got a 250 coin bonus. It was always the 4 of a Kinds you had to hit to get the bonus. You could find the card with 9, 10, 11 ways to get the bonus by hitting the 4 of a Kinds. If it was 9-way then the game was at 104%, and even higher if it was a 10-way or 11-way. They had these machines in the Riverside, the Flamingo, the Belle, the Pioneer, the Golden Nugget, and Harrah's. I keyed off the ploppies. When they left a good bingo card I played it off. Life was great on the river.

    I started learning a few things about the slot clubs on the river. I started getting a mailer from Gold River offering me two days hotel comp per week. This was from my action on the Deuces. At the Pioneer a $3000 machine wager this month got you a two-day Getaway Package for the next month. At Ramada anyone with a local address got a 3-day Getaway Package every month that cost $11. So to cut my rent further I would stay at the Riverside for three weeks which cost me $210, then take the room comp from the other joints for a week. Then return to the Riverside.

    At Gold River the slot card was worth .333% cashback and .333% comp dollars. On Thursdays I got triple cashback to play the Deuces. I used the comp dollars for meals.

    The Pioneer had a $3 Steak & Eggs special from 11 PM to 7 AM every night. I was there pretty much every night. The slot card was worth .167% cashback and .333% comp. They had frequent double cashback days and promotions like Card of the Day. I mostly played the linked bank of Flush Attack, FPDW and the Jackpot Cards.

    The Riverside card was worth .2% cashback and discretionary comp. They wouldn't tell you what the meter rate was on the comp dollars. I got discretionary meal comp. A $2500 wager this month got you a two-day Getaway Package for the next month. After my weeks stay in the other joints I would check back into the Riverside on the Getaway Package....then see my slot host to book the rest of the days.

    The Edgewater card was worth .25% cashback and .5% comp. I got an occasional meal comp out of them from my action on the Pigs.

    The Belle card was worth .25% cashback and .5% comp. And I got a meal comp out of them here and there from my action on the Pigs and Jackpot Cards.

    The Golden Nugget card was worth .2% cashback. They had double point days. They also had FPDW.

    The Ramada card was worth .333% for locals and you got .666% one day a month. And, as previously mentioned, I got a 3 day Getaway Package for $11 every month. I got discretionary meal comp from the Ramada.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 03-08-2017 at 07:12 AM.

  13. #33
    Anyone have any info on these? PM if wish.


  14. #34
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Anyone have any info on these? PM if wish.

    When that counter thats at 32 reaches 60 it will erase one of the 8 little pigs. The counter will start over and you have to move it up to 60 again to erase another pig. Erase all those pigs and you are awarded one of the meters. You have to play it close, only a few of pigs left.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The 18-machine linked Flush Attack bank at the Riverside was the premier Flush Attack bank in Laughlin. It got lots more action by the ploppies than any other bank in town. The bank attracted lots of pros because of it. The ploppies created the Flush Attack modes. It took 15 points worth of Flush to send all the machines into Flush Attack mode. A person betting five coins would put in 5 points when they made a Flush. A person betting 3 coins would put in 3 points when they made a Flush. A person betting one coin would put in 1 point when they made a Flush. So when 15 points of Flush were collectively accumulated on the bank of machines it triggered Flush Attack mode. Across the top of all the machines it would say "FLUSH ATTACK!!! Next flush pays bonus." Then it was a race to see who could make the next flush, which payed 125 coins.

    The trick to this game was not to play in non-flush attack mode. Let the ploppies play and create the Flush Attack modes. But you could draw heat doing that. So most of us who were exploiting the game would bet one coin per game in non-mode to look like we were players. Then go to to five coins in mode. It was a cash cow.

    I met Bill Hartman of the Riverside Flush Attack bank in the spring of 1997. He was an old casino hustler. He was a pretty nice guy for someone who had done 13 years in San Quentin for manslaughter. We became fast friends. Up until that time I had been paying about $180 a week to stay in the casino hotels. I belonged to all the slot clubs but I had a Colorado ID and a phony address in Colorado. Who knows what happened to any mail they sent to that address.

    Hartman did two things for me. First, he introduced me to his Riverside casino host. She would comp me into the North Tower for a week at a time. That is, as long as I gave her a $70 handshake every week. The casino hosts in the Riverside were on the take. Don Laughlin allowed them to take tips and it became a racket. So I would meet my casino host at the North Tower Bar every week with $70 palmed in my hand which I would pass off to her. This cut my rent bill considerably.

    The 2nd thing Hartman did was he told me to go downstairs and rent a mail box in the Post Office. The Riverside had a U.S. Post Office down the escalator where you go out to catch the water taxi. I asked him why I needed a mail box. He told me I was missing out on the casino mailers that came with comped rooms, meal comps, bounceback checks, promotions, etc. I went downstairs and rented a mail box for $14 a year. Then I went to all the slot clubs and changed my mailing address.
    By early 1997 I had the Pig plays working, the Flush Attack banks around Laughlin working, the Odyssey plays working, and I was playing FPDW on certain nights. Then I added two more video poker games to my reportoire. The first was another Sigma game called House a' Rockin'. It worked the same way as Flush Attack but was based on Full Houses. There was a linked bank in the North Tower Bar of the Riverside. It was 8/5 Double Bonus with every 6th Full House paying 200 coins. When I caught the bank getting ploppie action I sat down betting one coin at a time in non-mode then went to the five coin bet in mode. It was another cash cow.

    The 2nd video poker game was called Jackpot Card. It was 6/5 Double Double Jackpot, a 95% game. But there was a bingo card on the upper right of the screen. Squares on the card would fill in as you hit hands, like two pair, 3 of a Kind, Straight, the four different flush suits, certain full houses. It basically left the 4 of a Kinds to hit. When you made a bingo on the card you got a 250 coin bonus. It was always the 4 of a Kinds you had to hit to get the bonus. You could find the card with 9, 10, 11 ways to get the bonus by hitting the 4 of a Kinds. If it was 9-way then the game was at 104%, and even higher if it was a 10-way or 11-way. They had these machines in the Riverside, the Flamingo, the Belle, the Pioneer, the Golden Nugget, and Harrah's. I keyed off the ploppies. When they left a good bingo card I played it off. Life was great on the river.

    I started learning a few things about the slot clubs on the river. I started getting a mailer from Gold River offering me two days hotel comp per week. This was from my action on the Deuces. At the Pioneer a $3000 machine wager this month got you a two-day Getaway Package for the next month. At Ramada anyone with a local address got a 3-day Getaway Package every month that cost $11. So to cut my rent further I would stay at the Riverside for three weeks which cost me $210, then take the room comp from the other joints for a week. Then return to the Riverside.

    At Gold River the slot card was worth .333% cashback and .333% comp dollars. On Thursdays I got triple cashback to play the Deuces. I used the comp dollars for meals.

    The Pioneer had a $3 Steak & Eggs special from 11 PM to 7 AM every night. I was there pretty much every night. The slot card was worth .167% cashback and .333% comp. They had frequent double cashback days and promotions like Card of the Day. I mostly played the linked bank of Flush Attack, FPDW and the Jackpot Cards.

    The Riverside card was worth .2% cashback and discretionary comp. They wouldn't tell you what the meter rate was on the comp dollars. I got discretionary meal comp. A $2500 wager this month got you a two-day Getaway Package for the next month. After my weeks stay in the other joints I would check back into the Riverside on the Getaway Package....then see my slot host to book the rest of the days.

    The Edgewater card was worth .25% cashback and .5% comp. I got an occasional meal comp out of them from my action on the Pigs.

    The Belle card was worth .25% cashback and .5% comp. And I got a meal comp out of them here and there from my action on the Pigs and Jackpot Cards.

    The Golden Nugget card was worth .2% cashback. They had double point days. They also had FPDW.

    The Ramada card was worth .333% for locals and you got .666% one day a month. And, as previously mentioned, I got a 3 day Getaway Package for $11 every month. I got discretionary meal comp from the Ramada.

    You should write a book. Your story is interesting, your knowledge vast, and your writing style simple and easy to read - it all makes for an entertaining and educational read.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Anyone have any info on these? PM if wish.

    When that counter thats at 32 reaches 60 it will erase one of the 8 little pigs. The counter will start over and you have to move it up to 60 again to erase another pig. Erase all those pigs and you are awarded one of the meters. You have to play it close, only a few of pigs left.
    Thanks Mickey. Same casino as the GE I played so probably not worth the effort. Only one machine too.

  17. #37
    I play it when all pigs are gone except for two of them (or better).

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